human151 wrote: »

Mickey_Ox wrote: »

Get a new job with more sociable hours maybe??

I bring my laptop to work and play ESO, or wath netflix of whatever.

i need detailed information, where is the job located, how do i apply to your job aswell.

I like Maintenance Mondays. It's an all-out PVP zone on the forums.

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

Since you work in a data center and understand the "server" is actually a matrix of servers then you would understand it is an increased technical challenge updating the server while it is online.

AAAGH! That's not what anyone is suggesting they do. They leave the online server online, they don't touch it, it stays as it is. They patch an offline server, then they swap them over. It doesn't matter if the "server" is a single machine or a cluster of thousands of them, the principle is the same. It's literally so simple even a five year old could understand it, and all the "but it's an MMO, therefore MAGIC" comments are just... they make me want to scream.

The only reason ZOS (and BLizzard, and whoever else) do it this half-baked way of shutting everything down for hours at a time is because doing it the sensible way costs money, but it's a single capital cost so I suspect that in terms of increased customer satisfaction and improved reliability they could claw that back fairly easily; imagine how popular the game would be if they could market it as "the MMO that we don't have to keep turning off and on again"!

Chickenstein wrote: »

Bryanonymous wrote: »

Or deal with it like the rest of us.

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You are not special. Get over yourself.

Oh, we have a spokesperson for the free world here telling others not only how "all of us" feel, but that as a complaining individual you're not special (which they obviously are by that logic).

Seriously, what you're saying is "we all have to buy that bread although it's moldy; if you don't like it be a baker.". While this may be an evolutionary correct response, this is enterprising and not mother nature, so the correct answer would be "if you don't like it, leave", or, in response "if you don't like my complaints, ignore them, you're not the recipient".

On a side note, what frustration entitled you to insulting other users out of friggin nowhere? "Your whiny OP comes off as entitled demands and sobbing exaggeration." "Keep crying. Won't change anything. Your parents should have taught you that."
Well I know what parents should have taught *you*.

Just funny how whenever someone uses adjectives to describe the tone of another persons comment... They are then accused of insulting people. Look, the OP is a negative post. It's certainly not a positive one. So if I describe it in a negative way, that's because IT IS A NEGATIVE DISCUSSION TO BEGIN WITH. I have just as much right to complain about complaining and exhibit the same level of entitlement that the OP started the discussion with as a response against their comments. And really, your condescending attitude is no different than mine. And go ahead and check my discussion history. Some of the threads I have made were attacked with the same hostility when I complained about invincible guards. Negative topics get negative responses, and entitled attitudes get met with the same entitlement. All of us are in the same boat, and as I said which you failed to quote me on, why not ask them WHY there is so much downtime instead of crying and demanding it be changed.

Addendum: It doesn't even matter if the complaint makes any sense, let alone if I'd agree. Of course you're entitled to complain about matters you don't like. Would be bad if you couldn't. Imagine that.

Bryanonymous wrote: »

I pay for the same service, which your complaints possibly alter if you are bringing unnecessary discomfort to the community.

Yeah well this isn't something that isn't avoidable. If I have a customer complaining at the next table, it's unavoidable that I have to listen to his moaning. If I stand in line at the supermarket and someone starts a fight with the cashier, it's unavoidable. If someone starts a thread called "Downtime inexcusable" then I take full responsibility when I click on that and start reading, it's kinda ... avoidable. So I'm not too sure if the discomfort is self-induced to at least 50%

Chickenstein wrote: »

Bryanonymous wrote: »

I pay for the same service, which your complaints possibly alter if you are bringing unnecessary discomfort to the community.

Yeah well this isn't something that isn't avoidable. If I have a customer complaining at the next table, it's unavoidable that I have to listen to his moaning. If I stand in line at the supermarket and someone starts a fight with the cashier, it's unavoidable. If someone starts a thread called "Downtime inexcusable" then I take full responsibility when I click on that and start reading, it's kinda ... avoidable. So I'm not too sure if the discomfort is self-induced to at least 50%

I'm the type of person where if I am at a super market or resturant, and someone else is acting nuts, I will personally speak up and tell them to stfu. Just who I am. :P

Add "Downtime inexcusable" to the list of over exaggerating entitled threads spreading infectious negativity to and otherwise enjoyable game.

Downtime sucks. Thanks for making it a little worse.

Bryanonymous wrote: »

I'm the type of person where if I am at a super market or resturant, and someone else is acting nuts, I will personally speak up and tell them to stfu. Just who I am. :P

Add "Downtime inexcusable" to the list of over exaggerating entitled threads spreading infectious negativity to and otherwise enjoyable game.

While I somehow agree to the latter, I'm pretty sure Princess Zenimax doesn't need any white knights

Chickenstein wrote: »

Bryanonymous wrote: »

I'm the type of person where if I am at a super market or resturant, and someone else is acting nuts, I will personally speak up and tell them to stfu. Just who I am. :P

Add "Downtime inexcusable" to the list of over exaggerating entitled threads spreading infectious negativity to and otherwise enjoyable game.

While I somehow agree to the latter, I'm pretty sure Princess Zenimax doesn't need any white knights

This was never about protecting the corporation. The over exaggeration and entitlement is infectious and annoying and my only intent was to express that opinion.

Chickenstein wrote: »

Bryanonymous wrote: »

This was never about protecting the corporation. The over exaggeration and entitlement is infectious and annoying and my only intent was to express that opinion.

This was not to imply anything just a joke to calm everyone down.

By the way, because you said so earlier, I did not even complain in this thread; I was actually neutral and only reacted to *your* bad attitude, which is kind of funny because that's what you critizise here.

The OP set the infectious tone. Look at my comments in others threads. Almost always positive.

I now finished downloading the patch.
Only 5 hours after the maintenance has begun

Right I was playing till like 4am, I was up at around 10ish due to next door hammering something. Ive had the Mrs make my lunch and I'm ready to play..........GOD DAMN IT....ITS STILL IN MAINTENANCE!!!

30-40 hours downtime monthly in midday EU? Must be for Guinness records! The funny thing? ESO doesn't get any better, performance wise, i would say is getting worst!

downtime is necessary of course but this is the only mmorpg i have ever played where the regular downtime, meaning the one with no mayor updates/new content, but just maintenance and maybe a bugfix, takes so long! its been 5 hours now.

i be happier if they did like a daily maintenace update of an hour or so and spend time and resources to try and cut that number down further.. that is what most mmo's do.

5 hours plus i am told by people in IT means they are doing it wrong

This thread should be closed. It's just devolving into name calling at this point.