Shipments of materials (crafting writ rewards)

grom1024 · October 2016

Short questions about shipments of material that given as reward for crafting writs.

1. Why are they not in consumable tab of inventory?
2. Why are they not affected by auto-loot option?
3. And why they exist as packages rather than unpacked immediately?
4. Is there some addon that auto-loot them?

MissBizz · October 2016

A different update made all containers not listen to auto loot. Maybe update 11?

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · October 2016

grom1024 wrote: »

Short questions about shipments of material that given as reward for crafting writs.

1. Why are they not in consumable tab of inventory?
2. Why are they not affected by auto-loot option?
3. And why they exist as packages rather than unpacked immediately?
4. Is there some addon that auto-loot them?

A better question is why are the useless to for max level crafters? As it stands only my Alts do writs to level it's a non logical material sunk.

jedtb16_ESO · October 2016

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

grom1024 wrote: »

Short questions about shipments of material that given as reward for crafting writs.

1. Why are they not in consumable tab of inventory?
2. Why are they not affected by auto-loot option?
3. And why they exist as packages rather than unpacked immediately?
4. Is there some addon that auto-loot them?

A better question is why are the useless to for max level crafters? As it stands only my Alts do writs to level it's a non logical material sunk.

if you look at the forums after one tamriel was launched on pts you will see people complaining that they could no longer get low level mats. zos put the packs in to compensate for that. if you don't get a survey from a writ you get a pack.

grom1024 · October 2016

MissBizz wrote: »

A different update made all containers not listen to auto loot. Maybe update 11?

"Blacksmith's Crate I" and other crafting writ reward packages are affected by auto-loot option.

smacx250 · October 2016

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

grom1024 wrote: »

Short questions about shipments of material that given as reward for crafting writs.

1. Why are they not in consumable tab of inventory?
2. Why are they not affected by auto-loot option?
3. And why they exist as packages rather than unpacked immediately?
4. Is there some addon that auto-loot them?

A better question is why are the useless to for max level crafters? As it stands only my Alts do writs to level it's a non logical material sunk.

Just made use of some of those mats today for an alt and friend's characters - I appreciate that they added those!
And also was asked today by friends "why are you picking that stuff up?" And explained to them that my main/crafter couldn't readily harvest that stuff anymore.

NBrookus · October 2016

The least they could do is make them raw mats.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · October 2016

NBrookus wrote: »

The least they could do is make them raw mats.

Yep! As it is right now, they are just a hassle to deal with. I would rather they not drop at all to be honest.

disintegr8 · October 2016

NBrookus wrote: »

The least they could do is make them raw mats.

Yes raw materials would at least make them a potential source of improvement tempers and much a more acceptable drop.

agegarton · October 2016

NBrookus wrote: »

The least they could do is make them raw mats.

Absolutely!! As a crafter, I'm far less interested in low level refined mats - far more interested in raw mats that might provide additional tempers, etc. People *** and whine on these forums about how their race or class is buffed / nerfed / whatever, but my god crafters are the poor relation in this game.

AlienSlof · October 2016

NBrookus wrote: »

The least they could do is make them raw mats.

^ This. ^

Raw mats and equivalent value mats as what was used in the writ. Making ruby items and getting back a shipment of iron ingots is beyond not fair.

Can we just have surveys back, please?

AlienSlof · October 2016

I've been thinking some more about this after discussing writ rewards with a friend. Surveys are now reduced and these shipments of refined mats appear with 1T and are way more common. Often the refined mats are of cheaper material than what was used in the writ itself (survey was at least mats equivalent to crafter skill). This is removing one of the reasons we do writs - surveys of larger concentrations of raw mats - equivalent ones to the crafter harvesting them. With the reduction of surveys comes a reduction of raw mats, comes a reduction of chances to get tempers.

Whatever was wrong with things how they were?

Well, I'm starting to smell a whole sewer full of skeevers here with $ signs in their eyes...

What's the betting that gold tempers end up in the crown store - or even worse, those rotten gamble crates?

If that is the case... well, Skyrim remastered is out soon and I want to play through it again with my main vamp guy. Lots of other games nipping at my attention right now that cost me nothing...

AlnilamE · October 2016

AlienSlof wrote: »

I've been thinking some more about this after discussing writ rewards with a friend. Surveys are now reduced and these shipments of refined mats appear with 1T and are way more common. Often the refined mats are of cheaper material than what was used in the writ itself (survey was at least mats equivalent to crafter skill). This is removing one of the reasons we do writs - surveys of larger concentrations of raw mats - equivalent ones to the crafter harvesting them. With the reduction of surveys comes a reduction of raw mats, comes a reduction of chances to get tempers.

Whatever was wrong with things how they were?

Well, I'm starting to smell a whole sewer full of skeevers here with $ signs in their eyes...

What's the betting that gold tempers end up in the crown store - or even worse, those rotten gamble crates?

If that is the case... well, Skyrim remastered is out soon and I want to play through it again with my main vamp guy. Lots of other games nipping at my attention right now that cost me nothing...

Tamriel is crawling with harvestable nodes. I was doing dolmens and world bosses yesterday and just gathering stuff leisurely along the way from one to the other. Not sure why you think only surveys would give you mats. Mats leveled to your crafting level are everywhere now.

I agree they could make the mats in the boxes raw instead of refined, but those boxes are there because of an ask from the community.

AlienSlof · October 2016

Oh, I do gather harvestable nodes all the time. I run from dolmen to dungeon, to dolmen picking everything along the way! It was just a sneaking suspicion and I hope I'm completely wrong, I really do. I didn't ask for boxes of refined mats - I like to refine my own.

To me at least, crafting writs are just not worth doing.

nine9six · October 2016

Why are they not unrefined to give me the chance at getting something useful out of them?

nine9six · October 2016

Why are they not unrefined to give me the chance at getting something useful out of them?

nine9six · October 2016

Why are they not unrefined to give me the chance at getting something useful out of them?

nine9six · October 2016

Why are they not unrefined to give me the chance at getting something useful out of them?

nine9six · October 2016

HOLY MULTI POST!

wenchmore420b14_ESO · October 2016

In before lock for multi threads! lmao!
I for one am SO glad they listened to the master crafters on this. (I.E. Crafters who craft for others of all levels).
I was pleasantly surprised when I saw the shipment mats, but I do agree unrefined mats would be great.
But again Zos, Thank You and Huzzah!!!

smacx250 · October 2016

Here's the deal as I understand it:

1. They halved the survey drop rate
2. They doubled the mats returned from a survey
3. They added a crate of refined mats when you don't get a survey

So, the average raw mat return from surveys should remain the same, and they "buffed" the writs with some lower-level refined mats to help crafters deal with the inability to harvest those lower-level mats anymore.

I believe there was another patch note that said they "nerfed" the clothier survey plant yield to be in line with that returned for other mat types.

jedtb16_ESO · October 2016

smacx250 wrote: »

Here's the deal as I understand it:

1. They halved the survey drop rate
2. They doubled the mats returned from a survey
3. They added a crate of refined mats when you don't get a survey

So, the average raw mat return from surveys should remain the same, and they "buffed" the writs with some lower-level refined mats to help crafters deal with the inability to harvest those lower-level mats anymore.

I believe there was another patch note that said they "nerfed" the clothier survey plant yield to be in line with that returned for other mat types.

no..... the mats returned from surveys are far more that doubled. six nodes (blacksmith woodworker clothier) with a minimum of 18 items per node.

so far i have seen.... minimum (per node) 18 maximum 40.

I_killed_Vivec · October 2016

nine9six wrote: »

HOLY MULTI POST!

A question so good it deserved to be asked four times!

Oreyn_Bearclaw · October 2016

Sample size is still too small, but I am starting to question whether writs are still worth it. I have done writs everyday on multiple toons since their inception, but they are starting to feel like a gold sink.

The refined mats are garbage. I am all for them infusing them into the game now that everything is scaled up, but they should be raw so we have a shot at tempers.

As for the surveys, I do like that they are stackable, and the surveys themselves seem to have received a small buff, but the drop rate does seem lower. Gold mat drop rate also seems down, but again, its only been a week so no way to really know.

IMO the whole point of doing writs should be for slow and steady supply of crafting mats to make endgame gear. If they don't accomplish that, then what is the point. Ever since SOTH, I have had to buy bulk top tier mats, which has me questioning their worth.

Thrasher91604 · October 2016

Well I got a gold temper yesterday FWIW and is the only day I did a writ since the 1T patch. And I am liking the double resources at the survey locations.

NBrookus · October 2016

So far this week I have received ZERO gold tempers, versus previously I averaged about 1 per day per toon. Hard to say if that's a nerf or rotten RNG, but it was really the only reason I bothered with the hassle of writs.

Vangy · October 2016

I need at least 2 weeks to make a more informed decision. But so far, ive been doing 6 writs per toon on 8 toons since One tamriel update. So far, its been barely breaking even with a slight drop in how often I find gold mats..... Maybe bad RNG. Ill know in about a week or 2s time if these are still worth it. So far tho... they just seem like a time sink to barely break even.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · October 2016

Vangy wrote: »

I need at least 2 weeks to make a more informed decision. But so far, ive been doing 6 writs per toon on 8 toons since One tamriel update. So far, its been barely breaking even with a slight drop in how often I find gold mats..... Maybe bad RNG. Ill know in about a week or 2s time if these are still worth it. So far tho... they just seem like a time sink to barely break even.

Yep, another day down, and I am an inch closer to stopping them. Starting to think the 30-40 minutes I spend on these every day would be better spent just farming.

idk · October 2016

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

grom1024 wrote: »

Short questions about shipments of material that given as reward for crafting writs.

1. Why are they not in consumable tab of inventory?
2. Why are they not affected by auto-loot option?
3. And why they exist as packages rather than unpacked immediately?
4. Is there some addon that auto-loot them?

A better question is why are the useless to for max level crafters? As it stands only my Alts do writs to level it's a non logical material sunk.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

I agree with this. I don't understand why Zos chose to give us a writ reward that is virtually useless to us.

Armor and weapon writs have been great until update 12. Now anyone with any sense isn't doing max level write outside of consumables.