Enough of Hateful People!!~

SirMewser · October 2016

I am quite fed up with entering dungeon and seeing people being brought down by another teammate who is acting mentally ill with idiotic gloats.

I am referring to kicking people who "don't play the right class with specific role" or not being meta.
Insulting people in whispers because X person left because Y person was being a jerk.
Telling people to die because they "suck at the game" and assume they "suck at life".

Who in the right damn mind actually thinks that is okay?

How these perpetrators appear to be (not all apply):

They wear top tier cosmetics.
They claim to be justified/correct to speak cruel.
They are short minded individuals who assume those who can't cooperate regardless of condition, is incapable.
They might jeopardize/hinder a player's performance/ability to play through compromising the individual(s), ei: ignore mechanics and selective support.
They have delusions of grandeur, leading to social rejection because of being "better".
They avoid conversation after insulting someone to avoid correction of someone who may potentially be more moral.
They believe others play to please them (whoops sorry, but people don't spend money and time on the game for you, it's for them, surprised?)
Their insults are inadvertently not actual insults, ei: telling someone "don't worry, one day you will get better" is the same as saying "You will eventually be really good" there is no comparison of the player to any; echelon, timeframe, and is referring to a process of experience that applies to EVERYONE, if someone thought this was an insult, I feel sorry for them.

I personally consider myself to be a decent player having acquired achievements for cosmetics like skins close to the days after the content release while not being the most optimal / meta playstyle having done content. How? Obviously because it's probable for anyone.

Just because I don't run around with it to advertise how "awesome" I am doesn't mean I don't know what the content is like, that is an absurd way to even think.
I am constantly trying to encourage people to play and seeing others do the vice versa of this is crushing.

Solution:
If a player is reported for harassment multiple times from different players they should get temporary band for a week of ESO.
This does not surpass from player reports who are;

Friends: If multiple reports on the same person comes from players who are friends, the reports become void, no exception is made.
Guild Association: If multiple reports on the same person comes from members of the same guild, up-to but not limited to: 6 player reports are required.
World Zones: If multiple reports on the same person comes from members of the same zone, up-to but not limited to: 8 player reports are required.
Group Instances: If multiple reports on the same person comes from dungeon instances, up-to but not limited to: 4 player reports are required.

The "up-to but not limited to" is to allow players to be reported more than X times before the effect, the effect should apply on the start of the new day, so the account ban duration can increase based on the amount of reports.
The different conditions listed above is to prevent players from being penalized by bias individuals.

Good idea: yes / no?
Suggestions?

WalksonGraves · October 2016

Every time I see posts like this I think of all the failed pugs because of players who didn't know/want to play their role properly or were grossly unprepared either in gear or level and wiped the group.

Altaire · October 2016

Solo or find a good guild/friends. Some pug groups can be fun as hell, if ya don't expect too much.
Aholes will be Aholes, /ignore and move on...

andreasranasen · October 2016

Not to go too off-topic but speaking of hate in general;

I also see a lot of ignorance in Zone Chat and hear a lot in Group/Area Voice Chat with either racist or homophobic slurs using either the N's and F words. People who do talk this way should get a 72h Temporary ban right away. If person use these words again, in any form of Chat system they should be permantly banned from the game. Hate speech should not be allowed ingame and there should be consequences.

Zenimax should also let users be able to attach screenshots in game when they send in a ticket (speaking from a console perspective).

I am absolutely sick and tired of ignorant players in this game and the amount of childish players there are.

It's a GAME at the end of the day.

Whatzituyah · October 2016

Surprisingly a Nightblade Tank actually works well and I also hate people who hate on me that I use a Nightblade for Tanking to top it all off its Argonian.

alexkdd99 · October 2016

Apparently people don't know they can mute other players.
I would of muted said person long before I felt the need to make this post.

There is no need to implement this as you can simply mute this person. Unless of course you feel the need to correct or argue with said person.

andreasranasen wrote: »

Not to go too off-topic but speaking of hate in general;

As someone who sometimes experience hate-mail on weekly sometimes daily basis simply because I play PvP A LOT I definitely feel you on this "hate" subject in general. PvP can be a very toxic environment.

I also see a lot of ignorance in Zone Chat and hear a lot in Group/Area Voice Chat with either racist or homophobic slurs using either the N's and F words. People who do talk this way should get a 72h Temporary ban right away. If person use these words again, in any form of Chat system they should be permantly banned from the game. Hate speech should not be allowed ingame and there should be consequences.

Zenimax should also let users be able to attach screenshots in game when they send in a ticket (speaking from a console perspective).

I am absolutely sick and tired of ignorant players in this game and the amount of childish players there are.

It's a GAME at the end of the day.

Your right it is a game, why waste time implementing such measures when you can mute the people you don't want to hear from.

What I am trying to say is there is already features in the game to deal with this.

Whatzituyah · October 2016

alexkdd99 wrote: »

Apparently people don't know they can mute other players.
I would of muted said person long before I felt the need to make this post.

There is no need to implement this as you can simply mute this person. Unless of course you feel the need to correct or argue with said person.

@alexkdd99 If only that guaranteed you would not pair up in group que.

PurifedBladez · October 2016

People are offensive on the internet? Ya don't say?

These threads are useless I swear they occur at least once a week.

andreasranasen · October 2016

alexkdd99 wrote: »

Apparently people don't know they can mute other players.
I would of muted said person long before I felt the need to make this post.

There is no need to implement this as you can simply mute this person. Unless of course you feel the need to correct or argue with said person.

andreasranasen wrote: »

Not to go too off-topic but speaking of hate in general;

As someone who sometimes experience hate-mail on weekly sometimes daily basis simply because I play PvP A LOT I definitely feel you on this "hate" subject in general. PvP can be a very toxic environment.

I also see a lot of ignorance in Zone Chat and hear a lot in Group/Area Voice Chat with either racist or homophobic slurs using either the N's and F words. People who do talk this way should get a 72h Temporary ban right away. If person use these words again, in any form of Chat system they should be permantly banned from the game. Hate speech should not be allowed ingame and there should be consequences.

Zenimax should also let users be able to attach screenshots in game when they send in a ticket (speaking from a console perspective).

I am absolutely sick and tired of ignorant players in this game and the amount of childish players there are.

It's a GAME at the end of the day.

Your right it is a game, why waste time implementing such measures when you can mute the people you don't want to hear from.

What I am trying to say is there is already features in the game to deal with this.

Not a valid argument. That's like seeing a crime and instead look away and pretend it never happened. Or letting a bullied kid change school when it should have been the bully who has to change school. Again, your argument is not valid. No hate anywhere should be allowed. Consequences should be made. A mute is not enough.

RavenSworn · October 2016

It's... A pug. I don't know why people expect others to be the same level of competency as them when it's clearly not. You join the queue, you are part of it so expect failures. If they didn't know their role, teach. Objectively. If they didn't want to play their role or unprepared in gear, tell them. Not tell them off.

Both parties need to chill. If "one day you will get better" is an insult, I think you are over thinking it. Because you WILL get better with practice. People definitely play to please themselves but it's wrong to use up another person's time just for your benefit and pleasure.

Axoinus · October 2016

Just ignore it. The worst possible punishment for these people is just to let them continue to live in their own ignorance. You'll always have the urge to tell these folks off. Don't do it. Don't try to teach or educate them. Let them continue their behavior unchecked-that really is the best revenge.

I take great satisfaction knowing that people that have these elitist behaviors are socially inept, lack critical thinking skills, have no leadership potential, live in a highly filtered reality and likely will never amount to anything in the real world.

Just let them go. If anything, when you recognize this behavior, interact with them in such a way that validates their perceptions. Say things that will feed their negativity that will grow a hatred poison in their minds with their very own thoughts.

This pays off in the short run for you and in the long run for them.

MasterSpatula · October 2016

All this thread tells me is that I've been really, really lucky in my PUGs.

Doctordarkspawn · October 2016

Yesterday I got a group for the random normal which turned out to be Blessed crucible, a dungeon with alot of trash.

We had two DPS, a stamsorc who was okay, didn't pull record breaking numbers, and a sorc who's build was quite frankly, I think, screwed the *** up. He didn't use crystal frags, impulse, and used destructive clench like it went out of style. I tried to kick him a few times, but eventually just let him stay. He grew on me. He sounded like he was experiencing that sort of childlike wonder I used to experience. I let him ride the dream as much as he could.

Then we get to the final boss, the stam sorc with passable DPS initiated hardmode just as the boss was pulled. I asked, "Why?" He said "Increases loot chance". I told him straight up "No it dosent you idiot" "It does for me. Nice temper you have there."

Meanwhile, we wiped to her lava attack, over and over. And the DPS got progressively more bitchey. I had outright refused to tank while I tried to figure out how to avoid the massive damage spikes and basicly just kept leting them die from outright not tanking. Meanwhile, the other sorc, the childlike sorc, kept calling for us to get along. When I finally had a chance to turn Hardmode on and get my bearings, the bitchy sorc was gone, and the childlike sorc had DC'd or logged off.

...I felt bad for him. He didn't deserve that. He was just here to have fun, so we waited for like 15 minutes for him before finally kicking him, geting two more DPS, and initiating the hardmode. We beat that hardmode. And I mailed him 1 K gold with an apology.

The moral of the story, OP, is that people change. People feel remorse, and sometimes the person hurling abuse feels bad directly afterwards. The reason the system is as lenient as it is, is so the people who arrent totally unredeemable are not punished sevearly, for mistakes we -all- make. Nobody wants to get yelled at, but nobody wants to be punished for the rest of their life for what happens when extenuating circumstances *** you off.

Mojmir · October 2016

ArchMikem · October 2016

The Internet provides anonymity, anonymity provides no consequences, no consequences breeds Evil.

People will quickly and eagerly fall to Evil if they think they're safe from retaliation.

Doctordarkspawn · October 2016

MasterSpatula wrote: »

All this thread tells me is that I've been really, really lucky in my PUGs.

If most of your pugs are not ill temptered and pull decent DPS then yes you have and I'll kill you and usurp your life for your luck now.

subtlezeroub17_ESO · October 2016

If we have something like a tank that doesn't tank, I don't bother berating them. I just whisper the group members and we kick him and find someone else.

No need for nasty words.

notimetocare · October 2016

SirMewser wrote: »

I am quite fed up with entering dungeon and seeing people being brought down by another teammate who is acting mentally ill with idiotic gloats.
I am referring to kicking people who "don't play the right class with specific role" or not being meta.

Insulting people in whispers because X person left because Y person was being a jerk.

Telling people to die because they "suck at the game" and assume they "suck at life".

Who in the right damn mind actually thinks that is okay?

How these perpetrators appear to be (not all apply):
They wear top tier cosmetics.

They claim to be justified/correct to speak cruel.

They are short minded individuals who assume those who can't cooperate regardless of condition, is incapable.

They might jeopardize/hinder a player's performance/ability to play through compromising the individual(s), ei: ignore mechanics and selective support.

They have delusions of grandeur, leading to social rejection because of being "better".

They avoid conversation after insulting someone to avoid correction of someone who may potentially be more moral.

They believe others play to please them (whoops sorry, but people don't spend money and time on the game for you, it's for them, surprised?)

Their insults are inadvertently not actual insults, ei: telling someone "don't worry, one day you will get better" is the same as saying "You will eventually be really good" there is no comparison of the player to any; echelon, timeframe, and is referring to a process of experience that applies to EVERYONE, if someone thought this was an insult, I feel sorry for them.

I personally consider myself to be a decent player having acquired achievements for cosmetics like skins close to the days after the content release while not being the most optimal / meta playstyle having done content. How? Obviously because it's probable for anyone.

Just because I don't run around with it to advertise how "awesome" I am doesn't mean I don't know what the content is like, that is an absurd way to even think.
I am constantly trying to encourage people to play and seeing others do the vice versa of this is crushing.

Solution:
If a player is reported for harassment multiple times from different players they should get temporary band for a week of ESO.
This does not surpass from player reports who are;
Friends: If multiple reports on the same person comes from players who are friends, the reports become void, no exception is made.

Guild Association: If multiple reports on the same person comes from members of the same guild, up-to but not limited to: 6 player reports are required.

World Zones: If multiple reports on the same person comes from members of the same zone, up-to but not limited to: 8 player reports are required.

Group Instances: If multiple reports on the same person comes from dungeon instances, up-to but not limited to: 4 player reports are required.

The "up-to but not limited to" is to allow players to be reported more than X times before the effect, the effect should apply on the start of the new day, so the account ban duration can increase based on the amount of reports.
The different conditions listed above is to prevent players from being penalized by bias individuals.

Good idea: yes / no?
Suggestions?

You have an ignore function.
You have access to 5 guilds.
If you cant handle the internet, there is a real world you can quest in.

The system you want empowers the people you complain about. Foresight is a valuable skill.

SirMewser · October 2016

notimetocare wrote: »

SirMewser wrote: »

I am quite fed up with entering dungeon and seeing people being brought down by another teammate who is acting mentally ill with idiotic gloats.
I am referring to kicking people who "don't play the right class with specific role" or not being meta.

Insulting people in whispers because X person left because Y person was being a jerk.

Telling people to die because they "suck at the game" and assume they "suck at life".

Who in the right damn mind actually thinks that is okay?

How these perpetrators appear to be (not all apply):
They wear top tier cosmetics.

They claim to be justified/correct to speak cruel.

They are short minded individuals who assume those who can't cooperate regardless of condition, is incapable.

They might jeopardize/hinder a player's performance/ability to play through compromising the individual(s), ei: ignore mechanics and selective support.

They have delusions of grandeur, leading to social rejection because of being "better".

They avoid conversation after insulting someone to avoid correction of someone who may potentially be more moral.

They believe others play to please them (whoops sorry, but people don't spend money and time on the game for you, it's for them, surprised?)

Their insults are inadvertently not actual insults, ei: telling someone "don't worry, one day you will get better" is the same as saying "You will eventually be really good" there is no comparison of the player to any; echelon, timeframe, and is referring to a process of experience that applies to EVERYONE, if someone thought this was an insult, I feel sorry for them.

I personally consider myself to be a decent player having acquired achievements for cosmetics like skins close to the days after the content release while not being the most optimal / meta playstyle having done content. How? Obviously because it's probable for anyone.

Just because I don't run around with it to advertise how "awesome" I am doesn't mean I don't know what the content is like, that is an absurd way to even think.
I am constantly trying to encourage people to play and seeing others do the vice versa of this is crushing.

Solution:
If a player is reported for harassment multiple times from different players they should get temporary band for a week of ESO.
This does not surpass from player reports who are;
Friends: If multiple reports on the same person comes from players who are friends, the reports become void, no exception is made.

Guild Association: If multiple reports on the same person comes from members of the same guild, up-to but not limited to: 6 player reports are required.

World Zones: If multiple reports on the same person comes from members of the same zone, up-to but not limited to: 8 player reports are required.

Group Instances: If multiple reports on the same person comes from dungeon instances, up-to but not limited to: 4 player reports are required.

The "up-to but not limited to" is to allow players to be reported more than X times before the effect, the effect should apply on the start of the new day, so the account ban duration can increase based on the amount of reports.
The different conditions listed above is to prevent players from being penalized by bias individuals.

Good idea: yes / no?
Suggestions?

You have an ignore function.
You have access to 5 guilds.
If you cant handle the internet, there is a real world you can quest in.

The system you want empowers the people you complain about. Foresight is a valuable skill.

Foresight should not excuse the inhumane, that is just stupid.

Ignore does not mean it's okay and that the problem has resolved.
Terrible people have guilds too.
Terrible people are in my friends list.
If I can't handle the internet I would have been gone, but here I am trying to make an effort to push something because I actually care about the game and other people, trust me, if I was all for myself I would not be a computer forensic (yes cyber criminals can be much worse than the most harsh MMO players).

The proposal of my OP is that there should be a way for players to deal with others.

Doctordarkspawn · October 2016

SirMewser wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

SirMewser wrote: »

I am quite fed up with entering dungeon and seeing people being brought down by another teammate who is acting mentally ill with idiotic gloats.
I am referring to kicking people who "don't play the right class with specific role" or not being meta.

Insulting people in whispers because X person left because Y person was being a jerk.

Telling people to die because they "suck at the game" and assume they "suck at life".

Who in the right damn mind actually thinks that is okay?

How these perpetrators appear to be (not all apply):
They wear top tier cosmetics.

They claim to be justified/correct to speak cruel.

They are short minded individuals who assume those who can't cooperate regardless of condition, is incapable.

They might jeopardize/hinder a player's performance/ability to play through compromising the individual(s), ei: ignore mechanics and selective support.

They have delusions of grandeur, leading to social rejection because of being "better".

They avoid conversation after insulting someone to avoid correction of someone who may potentially be more moral.

They believe others play to please them (whoops sorry, but people don't spend money and time on the game for you, it's for them, surprised?)

Their insults are inadvertently not actual insults, ei: telling someone "don't worry, one day you will get better" is the same as saying "You will eventually be really good" there is no comparison of the player to any; echelon, timeframe, and is referring to a process of experience that applies to EVERYONE, if someone thought this was an insult, I feel sorry for them.

I personally consider myself to be a decent player having acquired achievements for cosmetics like skins close to the days after the content release while not being the most optimal / meta playstyle having done content. How? Obviously because it's probable for anyone.

Just because I don't run around with it to advertise how "awesome" I am doesn't mean I don't know what the content is like, that is an absurd way to even think.
I am constantly trying to encourage people to play and seeing others do the vice versa of this is crushing.

Solution:
If a player is reported for harassment multiple times from different players they should get temporary band for a week of ESO.
This does not surpass from player reports who are;
Friends: If multiple reports on the same person comes from players who are friends, the reports become void, no exception is made.

Guild Association: If multiple reports on the same person comes from members of the same guild, up-to but not limited to: 6 player reports are required.

World Zones: If multiple reports on the same person comes from members of the same zone, up-to but not limited to: 8 player reports are required.

Group Instances: If multiple reports on the same person comes from dungeon instances, up-to but not limited to: 4 player reports are required.

The "up-to but not limited to" is to allow players to be reported more than X times before the effect, the effect should apply on the start of the new day, so the account ban duration can increase based on the amount of reports.
The different conditions listed above is to prevent players from being penalized by bias individuals.

Good idea: yes / no?
Suggestions?

You have an ignore function.
You have access to 5 guilds.
If you cant handle the internet, there is a real world you can quest in.

The system you want empowers the people you complain about. Foresight is a valuable skill.

Ignore does not mean it's okay and that the problem has resolved.
Terrible people have guilds too.
Terrible people are in my friends list.
If I can't handle the internet I would have been gone, but here I am trying to make an effort to push something because I actually care about the game and other people, trust me, if I was all for myself I would not be a computer forensic (yes cyber criminals can be much worse than the most harsh MMO players).

The proposal of my OP is that there should be a way for players to deal with others.

...You have terrible people on your friends list, are actively enabling them to do harm, why?

FriedEggSandwich · October 2016

Kids. School bullies who might be anywhere between 17-24 years old but never saw a reason to grow up yet. Take pity on them, they probably still rely on their parents financially. I have to agree with others that the banning idea is a bit dodgy considering you have an ignore option.

Having said that I took an unplanned 2 week break from the game a few months ago and got kicked from one of my guilds as a result. When I logged back in I didn't even try to ask why I'd been kicked because I knew. The guild leader still felt it necessary to grill me on my absence and tell me I should have let someone know. She told me they'd had a guild meeting to discuss me lol. Just 2 weeks! I apologised but politely declined her re-invitation on the grounds that I wasn't feeling the game right then and might need to take another play-break; didn't want a reoccurence of getting kicked and grilled. She appeared to understand but defriended me shortly after and now runs away when she sees me in game lol. Idk what exactly I did so wrong, maybe it was declining her second invitation. This woman is 40+ years old afaik. I reason it away by telling myself there must be some highly insecure people playing mmos all day every day.

SirMewser · October 2016

Doctordarkspawn wrote: »

SirMewser wrote: »

notimetocare wrote: »

SirMewser wrote: »

I am quite fed up with entering dungeon and seeing people being brought down by another teammate who is acting mentally ill with idiotic gloats.
I am referring to kicking people who "don't play the right class with specific role" or not being meta.

Insulting people in whispers because X person left because Y person was being a jerk.

Telling people to die because they "suck at the game" and assume they "suck at life".

Who in the right damn mind actually thinks that is okay?

How these perpetrators appear to be (not all apply):
They wear top tier cosmetics.

They claim to be justified/correct to speak cruel.

They are short minded individuals who assume those who can't cooperate regardless of condition, is incapable.

They might jeopardize/hinder a player's performance/ability to play through compromising the individual(s), ei: ignore mechanics and selective support.

They have delusions of grandeur, leading to social rejection because of being "better".

They avoid conversation after insulting someone to avoid correction of someone who may potentially be more moral.

They believe others play to please them (whoops sorry, but people don't spend money and time on the game for you, it's for them, surprised?)

Their insults are inadvertently not actual insults, ei: telling someone "don't worry, one day you will get better" is the same as saying "You will eventually be really good" there is no comparison of the player to any; echelon, timeframe, and is referring to a process of experience that applies to EVERYONE, if someone thought this was an insult, I feel sorry for them.

I personally consider myself to be a decent player having acquired achievements for cosmetics like skins close to the days after the content release while not being the most optimal / meta playstyle having done content. How? Obviously because it's probable for anyone.

Just because I don't run around with it to advertise how "awesome" I am doesn't mean I don't know what the content is like, that is an absurd way to even think.
I am constantly trying to encourage people to play and seeing others do the vice versa of this is crushing.

Solution:
If a player is reported for harassment multiple times from different players they should get temporary band for a week of ESO.
This does not surpass from player reports who are;
Friends: If multiple reports on the same person comes from players who are friends, the reports become void, no exception is made.

Guild Association: If multiple reports on the same person comes from members of the same guild, up-to but not limited to: 6 player reports are required.

World Zones: If multiple reports on the same person comes from members of the same zone, up-to but not limited to: 8 player reports are required.

Group Instances: If multiple reports on the same person comes from dungeon instances, up-to but not limited to: 4 player reports are required.

The "up-to but not limited to" is to allow players to be reported more than X times before the effect, the effect should apply on the start of the new day, so the account ban duration can increase based on the amount of reports.
The different conditions listed above is to prevent players from being penalized by bias individuals.

Good idea: yes / no?
Suggestions?

You have an ignore function.
You have access to 5 guilds.
If you cant handle the internet, there is a real world you can quest in.

The system you want empowers the people you complain about. Foresight is a valuable skill.

Ignore does not mean it's okay and that the problem has resolved.
Terrible people have guilds too.
Terrible people are in my friends list.
If I can't handle the internet I would have been gone, but here I am trying to make an effort to push something because I actually care about the game and other people, trust me, if I was all for myself I would not be a computer forensic (yes cyber criminals can be much worse than the most harsh MMO players).

The proposal of my OP is that there should be a way for players to deal with others.

...You have terrible people on your friends list, are actively enabling them to do harm, why?

They are on my friends list because I haven't met that other side of them till I play a dungeon with them and someone they don't like, then I block them depending on context.

magnusthorek · October 2016

Welcome to ESO's elitism.

This is something from birth, people were raised like this or became like this during the course of their lives and they will not change. They think that being a great player means they're extraordinary person (in the sense of superiority).

I'm not like this. If I PUG for a pledge and I see people are having hard times, I try to help as best as I can, but if I see that inevitably the team as a whole won't make it, I apologize, I wish good luck and I simply leave the group. No hard feelings

I'm like this because I don't like people being rude with me. And sadly, this will never change in this game and the tendency is to get worse with monsters getting harder and harder and ZOs forcing ridiculous metas that only masters of rotation and animation cancelling abusers can pull.

A little story for ya:

This sad situation happened to me once in one of my guilds. One of the elite players literally yelled at me in TeamSpeak when I was trying to help.

A few days later the same person kicked me from a group that wasn't his (probably by convincing the real leader) because, in his conception, I didn't know how to play, I didn't know how to do mechanics just because I made ONE mistake of moving around during The Mage fight in my first attempt of doing it after the revamp.

Am I supposed to know everything? Of course not, but try to make them understand that.

And the funniest of all? I defended my argument, I've got back to the same group and I finished the whole trial, on veteran difficulty (not HM, though) without die even once.

merovignub17_ESO · October 2016

The ignore list is too small to be useful.

I used to try to help people in zone chat, but it's too full of toxic crap, so I just turn everything off and play the game solo.

Ain't got time for all that.

I could see ever turning it back on if the ignore list was at least 10x bigger *and* there were more discussion channels so the "main" channel could be filled with spam/*** jokes and maybe another channel for questions. And etc.

That would be a big programming change, though (the channels), so I don't expect that.

ForsakenSin · October 2016

andreasranasen wrote: »

Not to go too off-topic but speaking of hate in general;

I also see a lot of ignorance in Zone Chat and hear a lot in Group/Area Voice Chat with either racist or homophobic slurs using either the N's and F words. People who do talk this way should get a 72h Temporary ban right away. If person use these words again, in any form of Chat system they should be permantly banned from the game. Hate speech should not be allowed ingame and there should be consequences.

Zenimax should also let users be able to attach screenshots in game when they send in a ticket (speaking from a console perspective).

I am absolutely sick and tired of ignorant players in this game and the amount of childish players there are.[/b]

few weeks ago i was in deshan buying just shopping around and on area chat i heard a kid saying f words N words and all of the insults you can possibly imagine to another guy and random people , usually i dont care but this was going for 10 min, so i simple went on the chat and said " you do realize if reported you can get banned from ESO for all of those things you are saying as per their terms and conditions right?? and you were probably reported number of time by now" the kid went quiet and he apologized to me and others and told me my deep voice scares the Sh%% out of him LOL and he behaved after that ... so i guess by saying that they might mature up otherwise just report them...

RAGUNAnoOne · October 2016

The solution seems bad I have read horror stories of games that had a "get reported blank times you get banned" turning into an extortion fest. Matter of fact this week on THIS FORUM I read a post this week that some *** were trying to extort someone by threatening a group reporting

akl77 · October 2016

That is why being a healer I have to have my back bar as a tank, problem solved, everyone's happy.

Integral1900 · October 2016

Remember that a decent person might have an off day but a scumbag may well be one forever, that's my revenge

Arthur_Spoonfondle · October 2016

SirMewser wrote: »

I am quite fed up with entering dungeon and seeing people being brought down by another teammate who is acting mentally ill with idiotic gloats.
I am referring to kicking people who "don't play the right class with specific role" or not being meta.

Insulting people in whispers because X person left because Y person was being a jerk.

Telling people to die because they "suck at the game" and assume they "suck at life".

Who in the right damn mind actually thinks that is okay?

How these perpetrators appear to be (not all apply):
They wear top tier cosmetics.

They claim to be justified/correct to speak cruel.

They are short minded individuals who assume those who can't cooperate regardless of condition, is incapable.

They might jeopardize/hinder a player's performance/ability to play through compromising the individual(s), ei: ignore mechanics and selective support.

They have delusions of grandeur, leading to social rejection because of being "better".

They avoid conversation after insulting someone to avoid correction of someone who may potentially be more moral.

They believe others play to please them (whoops sorry, but people don't spend money and time on the game for you, it's for them, surprised?)

Their insults are inadvertently not actual insults, ei: telling someone "don't worry, one day you will get better" is the same as saying "You will eventually be really good" there is no comparison of the player to any; echelon, timeframe, and is referring to a process of experience that applies to EVERYONE, if someone thought this was an insult, I feel sorry for them.

I personally consider myself to be a decent player having acquired achievements for cosmetics like skins close to the days after the content release while not being the most optimal / meta playstyle having done content. How? Obviously because it's probable for anyone.

Just because I don't run around with it to advertise how "awesome" I am doesn't mean I don't know what the content is like, that is an absurd way to even think.
I am constantly trying to encourage people to play and seeing others do the vice versa of this is crushing.

Solution:
If a player is reported for harassment multiple times from different players they should get temporary band for a week of ESO.
This does not surpass from player reports who are;
Friends: If multiple reports on the same person comes from players who are friends, the reports become void, no exception is made.

Guild Association: If multiple reports on the same person comes from members of the same guild, up-to but not limited to: 6 player reports are required.

World Zones: If multiple reports on the same person comes from members of the same zone, up-to but not limited to: 8 player reports are required.

Group Instances: If multiple reports on the same person comes from dungeon instances, up-to but not limited to: 4 player reports are required.

The "up-to but not limited to" is to allow players to be reported more than X times before the effect, the effect should apply on the start of the new day, so the account ban duration can increase based on the amount of reports.
The different conditions listed above is to prevent players from being penalized by bias individuals.

Good idea: yes / no?
Suggestions?

Whenever I see threads like this I am always amazed that so many people, who respond to the threads, actually think such behaviour is acceptable and normal.

Doctordarkspawn · October 2016

Arthur_Spoonfondle wrote: »

SirMewser wrote: »

I am quite fed up with entering dungeon and seeing people being brought down by another teammate who is acting mentally ill with idiotic gloats.
I am referring to kicking people who "don't play the right class with specific role" or not being meta.

Insulting people in whispers because X person left because Y person was being a jerk.

Telling people to die because they "suck at the game" and assume they "suck at life".

Who in the right damn mind actually thinks that is okay?

How these perpetrators appear to be (not all apply):
They wear top tier cosmetics.

They claim to be justified/correct to speak cruel.

They are short minded individuals who assume those who can't cooperate regardless of condition, is incapable.

They might jeopardize/hinder a player's performance/ability to play through compromising the individual(s), ei: ignore mechanics and selective support.

They have delusions of grandeur, leading to social rejection because of being "better".

They avoid conversation after insulting someone to avoid correction of someone who may potentially be more moral.

They believe others play to please them (whoops sorry, but people don't spend money and time on the game for you, it's for them, surprised?)

Their insults are inadvertently not actual insults, ei: telling someone "don't worry, one day you will get better" is the same as saying "You will eventually be really good" there is no comparison of the player to any; echelon, timeframe, and is referring to a process of experience that applies to EVERYONE, if someone thought this was an insult, I feel sorry for them.

I personally consider myself to be a decent player having acquired achievements for cosmetics like skins close to the days after the content release while not being the most optimal / meta playstyle having done content. How? Obviously because it's probable for anyone.

Just because I don't run around with it to advertise how "awesome" I am doesn't mean I don't know what the content is like, that is an absurd way to even think.
I am constantly trying to encourage people to play and seeing others do the vice versa of this is crushing.

Solution:
If a player is reported for harassment multiple times from different players they should get temporary band for a week of ESO.
This does not surpass from player reports who are;
Friends: If multiple reports on the same person comes from players who are friends, the reports become void, no exception is made.

Guild Association: If multiple reports on the same person comes from members of the same guild, up-to but not limited to: 6 player reports are required.

World Zones: If multiple reports on the same person comes from members of the same zone, up-to but not limited to: 8 player reports are required.

Group Instances: If multiple reports on the same person comes from dungeon instances, up-to but not limited to: 4 player reports are required.

The "up-to but not limited to" is to allow players to be reported more than X times before the effect, the effect should apply on the start of the new day, so the account ban duration can increase based on the amount of reports.
The different conditions listed above is to prevent players from being penalized by bias individuals.

Good idea: yes / no?
Suggestions?

Whenever I see threads like this I am always amazed that so many people, who respond to the threads, actually think such behaviour is acceptable and normal.

Do I think it's acceptable? No.

But it is normal. It's normal even if there isn't Annonymnity. People are ***. Sucks. But, all you can do is seek out a better class of people, hang with them, put your feet up, and club anyone who tries to take whats yours to death with sticks.

Lukums1 · October 2016

I'm sorry...

But do you have any idea how frustrating it is when you random queue and you get a sorc with 60 CP marked as a tank in WGT? - Granted this sorc was NOT tank but a DPS.

If I see someone being excessively bad I'm going to say something how are they meant to learn.
Let me clarify that I wouldn't be saying hateful or rude comments but they have clearly done the wrong thing and how has effected 3 other people not just themselves.

Git Gud remarks should be left at home I agree but you can't for 1 minute blame the "good" players for getting the BEEP when you get paired up with BEEPing morons.

The game isn't that smart yet, and not think it should get GEAR dependant like it did in WoW with item gear level but something needs to be carried out because waiting for 30minutes for a group... then a 15minute leave timer because of this issues is honestly? beyond a sick joke.