Stam Sorc DPS?????

Martol · October 2016

Hey i was wondering which set i should use for my stam sorc pve dps (maelstrom too!}

I cant decide between Automan, and Spriggan. Can someone enlighten/reccomend which set i sohuld use? and in the event i cant get either should i use nmg or sunderflame?

my othjer 5piece will be 5 VO

Thank you so much!

hedna123b14_ESO · October 2016

TBS is BiS for all stam

71r3n · October 2016

You could try something like "ilambris (2pc), Red Mountain (5pc) and Way of Fire (5pc).
Weapons would proly be something like 2 Swords (precise, 1 fire enchant, 1 with returning stam on hit).

Skills would be...

Bar1:
Steel Tornado -> Resolving Vigor -> Bound Armaments -> Camouflaged Hunter -> Rearming Trap -> Flawless Dawnbraker

Bar2:
Hurricane -> Critical Surge -> Bound Armaments -> Camouflaged Hunter -> Liquid Lightning -> Shooting Star

Playstyle:
Bound Armaments always on. Start with buffing (First Surge, then Hurrican cause of the CD), walk to your enemies, drop a Lighning Liquid in the group, drop a Rearming Trap if youre in the middle of the enemies, and start spaming Steel Tornado (Weaved).
If your ult is up, switch to bar 2, drop Shooting Star, drop Liquid Lighning, rebuff, and switch back to bar 1.

Explanation:
Bound Armaments, Camouflage Hunter, and Flawless Dawnbraker should be clear. Just activate BA once, and only slot CH and FD for the passive Benefits.
Critical Surge is for your standard Heal, and Resolving Vigor if it gets critical.
Steel Tornado spam is for procing Red Mountain.
And Red Mountain, Hurricane, Liquid Lightling and Shooting Star are just for procing Ilanbris.

Personaly, i think about swithing the Way of the Fire set for Draugr Hulk since im playing a Khajeet.
Armor would be 5/1/1 (Med,Heavy, Light) for Undaunted passive.

Thats it. Hope you enjoy. And be critical.

Izaki · October 2016

71r3n wrote: »

You could try something like "ilambris (2pc), Red Mountain (5pc) and Way of Fire (5pc).
Weapons would proly be something like 2 Swords (precise, 1 fire enchant, 1 with returning stam on hit).

Skills would be...

Bar1:
Steel Tornado -> Resolving Vigor -> Bound Armaments -> Camouflaged Hunter -> Rearming Trap -> Flawless Dawnbraker

Bar2:
Hurricane -> Critical Surge -> Bound Armaments -> Camouflaged Hunter -> Liquid Lightning -> Shooting Star

Playstyle:
Bound Armaments always on. Start with buffing (First Surge, then Hurrican cause of the CD), walk to your enemies, drop a Lighning Liquid in the group, drop a Rearming Trap if youre in the middle of the enemies, and start spaming Steel Tornado (Weaved).
If your ult is up, switch to bar 2, drop Shooting Star, drop Liquid Lighning, rebuff, and switch back to bar 1.

Explanation:
Bound Armaments, Camouflage Hunter, and Flawless Dawnbraker should be clear. Just activate BA once, and only slot CH and FD for the passive Benefits.
Critical Surge is for your standard Heal, and Resolving Vigor if it gets critical.
Steel Tornado spam is for procing Red Mountain.
And Red Mountain, Hurricane, Liquid Lightling and Shooting Star are just for procing Ilanbris.

Personaly, i think about swithing the Way of the Fire set for Draugr Hulk since im playing a Khajeet.
Armor would be 5/1/1 (Med,Heavy, Light) for Undaunted passive.

Thats it. Hope you enjoy. And be critical.

Nope................... This is just a mess

Check out @Alcast build for stamina sorcerers. Great build with very good explanations.

71r3n · October 2016

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

71r3n wrote: »

You could try something like "ilambris (2pc), Red Mountain (5pc) and Way of Fire (5pc).
Weapons would proly be something like 2 Swords (precise, 1 fire enchant, 1 with returning stam on hit).

Skills would be...

Bar1:
Steel Tornado -> Resolving Vigor -> Bound Armaments -> Camouflaged Hunter -> Rearming Trap -> Flawless Dawnbraker

Bar2:
Hurricane -> Critical Surge -> Bound Armaments -> Camouflaged Hunter -> Liquid Lightning -> Shooting Star

Playstyle:
Bound Armaments always on. Start with buffing (First Surge, then Hurrican cause of the CD), walk to your enemies, drop a Lighning Liquid in the group, drop a Rearming Trap if youre in the middle of the enemies, and start spaming Steel Tornado (Weaved).
If your ult is up, switch to bar 2, drop Shooting Star, drop Liquid Lighning, rebuff, and switch back to bar 1.

Explanation:
Bound Armaments, Camouflage Hunter, and Flawless Dawnbraker should be clear. Just activate BA once, and only slot CH and FD for the passive Benefits.
Critical Surge is for your standard Heal, and Resolving Vigor if it gets critical.
Steel Tornado spam is for procing Red Mountain.
And Red Mountain, Hurricane, Liquid Lightling and Shooting Star are just for procing Ilanbris.

Personaly, i think about swithing the Way of the Fire set for Draugr Hulk since im playing a Khajeet.
Armor would be 5/1/1 (Med,Heavy, Light) for Undaunted passive.

Thats it. Hope you enjoy. And be critical.

Nope................... This is just a mess

Check out @Alcast build for stamina sorcerers. Great build with very good explanations.

Could be, havent fully aquired every items so far myself, just theorie so far. But u know what? Im completly, without every guide etc. building my builds. But thx 4 reply.

Martol · October 2016

So automan or spriggan?

DRXHarbinger · October 2016

Neither. Viper+red mountain+Velidreth, up to and well over 30+k free damage with very little cool down.

Red mountain also procs of weapon dots like hail and slashes every 2s. So just park a boss up and burn them 9k damage for free, viper just git something every 4s minimum 9k for free.

Velidreth we've all seen it's power 10k minimum. All these can crit too.

I've actually dropped VO for this set up on my stamblade.

But there is a set isn't there which boost all physical damage attacks by 400. Stam sorc is all physical Inc hurricane so look into that also.

But the above combo does monster damage. Land a Flurry of hits all at once with these procs and you've done over 70k damage from the off.

ryanborror · October 2016

Night mothers gaze, hundings, tbs are all good. Maybe leviathan.

Izaki · October 2016

71r3n wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

71r3n wrote: »

You could try something like "ilambris (2pc), Red Mountain (5pc) and Way of Fire (5pc).
Weapons would proly be something like 2 Swords (precise, 1 fire enchant, 1 with returning stam on hit).

Skills would be...

Bar1:
Steel Tornado -> Resolving Vigor -> Bound Armaments -> Camouflaged Hunter -> Rearming Trap -> Flawless Dawnbraker

Bar2:
Hurricane -> Critical Surge -> Bound Armaments -> Camouflaged Hunter -> Liquid Lightning -> Shooting Star

Playstyle:
Bound Armaments always on. Start with buffing (First Surge, then Hurrican cause of the CD), walk to your enemies, drop a Lighning Liquid in the group, drop a Rearming Trap if youre in the middle of the enemies, and start spaming Steel Tornado (Weaved).
If your ult is up, switch to bar 2, drop Shooting Star, drop Liquid Lighning, rebuff, and switch back to bar 1.

Explanation:
Bound Armaments, Camouflage Hunter, and Flawless Dawnbraker should be clear. Just activate BA once, and only slot CH and FD for the passive Benefits.
Critical Surge is for your standard Heal, and Resolving Vigor if it gets critical.
Steel Tornado spam is for procing Red Mountain.
And Red Mountain, Hurricane, Liquid Lightling and Shooting Star are just for procing Ilanbris.

Personaly, i think about swithing the Way of the Fire set for Draugr Hulk since im playing a Khajeet.
Armor would be 5/1/1 (Med,Heavy, Light) for Undaunted passive.

Thats it. Hope you enjoy. And be critical.

Nope................... This is just a mess

Check out @Alcast build for stamina sorcerers. Great build with very good explanations.

Could be, havent fully aquired every items so far myself, just theorie so far. But u know what? Im completly, without every guide etc. building my builds. But thx 4 reply.

Yeah, you might be building builds by yourself but you don't seem to understand the basics of the game mechanics (and class mechanics). In PvE there is not much room for variety. If you want DPS, you have only 2 or 3 set-ups where you are using everything to the max of its potential. In PvP sure, you can get creative, but PvE all classes use the same gear, similar abilities and similar rotations.

1: Ilambris is a magicka set. That scales of Elemental Expert CP tree. If you have any idea of what you're doing you'd have 0 in there. There are plenty of good stamina monter sets for stamina: Kra'gh (BiS), Velidreth, Selene, Storm Fist, etc.

2: Way Of Fire is a heavy armor set. Viper is much better in terms of procs and stats.

3: Your abilities are a real mess. Camo Hunter is useless as you can get that same crit buff from a potion. Liquid Lightning will hit like a wet noodle. Elemental abilities have their damage scale off magicka and spell damage, poison, disease and physical abilities have their damage scale off stamina and weapon damage.

This build that you are proposing is simply ineffective in every way.

@Martol neither of the 2 sets are any good.
If its purely for vMA, run Night Mother's Gaze or Twice Born Star or Hundings Rage as you main set. Then run Velidreth. Then run VO on jewelry and weapons.

Sunderflame is okay but only in trials. I'd suggest having both both NMG, Sunderflame and TBS for trials. That you can choose. But neither Spriggan or Automaton are any good in PvE. Its either TBS or NMG or Sunderflame.

71r3n · October 2016

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

71r3n wrote: »

IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »

71r3n wrote: »

You could try something like "ilambris (2pc), Red Mountain (5pc) and Way of Fire (5pc).
Weapons would proly be something like 2 Swords (precise, 1 fire enchant, 1 with returning stam on hit).

Skills would be...

Bar1:
Steel Tornado -> Resolving Vigor -> Bound Armaments -> Camouflaged Hunter -> Rearming Trap -> Flawless Dawnbraker

Bar2:
Hurricane -> Critical Surge -> Bound Armaments -> Camouflaged Hunter -> Liquid Lightning -> Shooting Star

Playstyle:
Bound Armaments always on. Start with buffing (First Surge, then Hurrican cause of the CD), walk to your enemies, drop a Lighning Liquid in the group, drop a Rearming Trap if youre in the middle of the enemies, and start spaming Steel Tornado (Weaved).
If your ult is up, switch to bar 2, drop Shooting Star, drop Liquid Lighning, rebuff, and switch back to bar 1.

Explanation:
Bound Armaments, Camouflage Hunter, and Flawless Dawnbraker should be clear. Just activate BA once, and only slot CH and FD for the passive Benefits.
Critical Surge is for your standard Heal, and Resolving Vigor if it gets critical.
Steel Tornado spam is for procing Red Mountain.
And Red Mountain, Hurricane, Liquid Lightling and Shooting Star are just for procing Ilanbris.

Personaly, i think about swithing the Way of the Fire set for Draugr Hulk since im playing a Khajeet.
Armor would be 5/1/1 (Med,Heavy, Light) for Undaunted passive.

Thats it. Hope you enjoy. And be critical.

Nope................... This is just a mess

Check out @Alcast build for stamina sorcerers. Great build with very good explanations.

Could be, havent fully aquired every items so far myself, just theorie so far. But u know what? Im completly, without every guide etc. building my builds. But thx 4 reply.

Yeah, you might be building builds by yourself but you don't seem to understand the basics of the game mechanics (and class mechanics). In PvE there is not much room for variety. If you want DPS, you have only 2 or 3 set-ups where you are using everything to the max of its potential. In PvP sure, you can get creative, but PvE all classes use the same gear, similar abilities and similar rotations.

1: Ilambris is a magicka set. That scales of Elemental Expert CP tree. If you have any idea of what you're doing you'd have 0 in there. There are plenty of good stamina monter sets for stamina: Kra'gh (BiS), Velidreth, Selene, Storm Fist, etc.

2: Way Of Fire is a heavy armor set. Viper is much better in terms of procs and stats.

3: Your abilities are a real mess. Camo Hunter is useless as you can get that same crit buff from a potion. Liquid Lightning will hit like a wet noodle. Elemental abilities have their damage scale off magicka and spell damage, poison, disease and physical abilities have their damage scale off stamina and weapon damage.

This build that you are proposing is simply ineffective in every way.

@Martol neither of the 2 sets are any good.
If its purely for vMA, run Night Mother's Gaze or Twice Born Star or Hundings Rage as you main set. Then run Velidreth. Then run VO on jewelry and weapons.

Sunderflame is okay but only in trials. I'd suggest having both both NMG, Sunderflame and TBS for trials. That you can choose. But neither Spriggan or Automaton are any good in PvE. Its either TBS or NMG or Sunderflame.

First, id like to say, that i realy dont know all mechanics. But how, if u have to look for em like *** Inidana Jones?
There "are" mechanics, hidden in the Gamecode. Best example would be dmg scaling from staffs.
Till now, im not 100% sure how it works. YOu can find new posts, saying its like pre 1.6 where it scales from weap dmg etc, others say the exact difference. And theese "hidden mechanics" directly bring me to point 1.

1. Can u then pls explain why its magica. When i look at red mountain or way of fire, its dmg type is flame (witch falls under magica) but its 2-4 bonus is clearly focussed on stam. So how can someone knew this a 100%? And that brings me to no2.
2. Way of fire is only heavy if u use the armor. But my equip atm is dual swords way of fire, dual rings and neclace way of fire, helm and shoulder veli and kena (im looking for ilambris atm) and rest ist red mountain. I don see where the problem is with way of fire.
3. Yeah, i could. But pots are expensive if ure relatively new with only one max char. And i have it slotet for the extra 3% fighters guild passive. I know how magic and stam abillitys work. Its was theoretically, and only for procing ilambris. But i knew this is totaly stupid. Now i though about switching red mountain to jewelry and dual swords, so i can get schockmaster armor and ilambris set. So i could get 2 extra schock procs every second or third weaved attack, and 1 (~80%-90%) on every hit through shockmaster bonus. So i can get liquid lightning away.

So i now think i could switch rearming trap for dw cloak (for procing red mountain, 20% aoe reduce and a bit extra dps even if low) and switch liquid lightning for darc deal (sorcerer class skill).

But yeah, this all depends on no 1. Why is red mountain stam (even thought the proc is magicka based) and ilambris not?
Sure, ilambris gives us 1k mag roughly, but thats all. Or am i completly blind, ignoring something major? I mean, red mountain proc and ilambris proc both get pushed only by the Elemental Expert CP tree, right? Or does red mountain get pushed somewhere else? I hope u can see that my thinking in this build isent completly stupid. ^^

Bobby_V_Rockit · October 2016

I tinkered around a bit, but tried to stick reasonably close to meta (maths is maths, why gimp myself out of spite?). I run:
5x TBS (divines, all legendary stam ench)
2x Velidreth (infused, legendary stam)
3x robust agility (174 weapon dmg)
Leki sword (legendary sharpened, weap dmg ench)
Leki dagger (legendary precise, prismatic onslaught ench)
Random legendary bow

Bar 1: blood craze (swap fo steel tornado in trash mob heavy dungeons), expert hunter, rapid strikes, hurricance, bound armaments, flawless d'breaker
Bar 2: endless hail, rearming trap, poison injection, critical surge, bound armaments, shooting star

I seem to have fairly high DPS

Haquor · October 2016

Is the red mountain proc fire damage? Then it scales with magicka/elemental expert.

What abilities scale off used to be complicated. Now its easy. If it costs magicka it scales of magicka/elemental expert. If it costs stamina then it scales of stamina/mighty.

Elemental/magicka abilities and procs are not ideal for stamina based characters. They will generally be gimped because your large stamina pool and minimal magicka pool will not scale thier damage high. So stamina based characters use sets that increase weapon crit, weapon damage and stamina pool. and use weapin abilities and class/guild abilities that cost stamina and do disease/poison/physical damage to be most effective.

Same basic rules for monster seats and equipment set procs and effecs. You want them to be doing physical/disease/poison damage. Not elemental or magicka.

So.. like 5 TBS or hundings or night mothers or even somrthing like skirmisher with some agility jewellery and then velidreth/kragh 2pc will always be pretty solid setup on a stam character dps.

71r3n · October 2016

Haquor wrote: »

Is the red mountain proc fire damage? Then it scales with magicka/elemental expert.

What abilities scale off used to be complicated. Now its easy. If it costs magicka it scales of magicka/elemental expert. If it costs stamina then it scales of stamina/mighty.

Elemental/magicka abilities and procs are not ideal for stamina based characters. They will generally be gimped because your large stamina pool and minimal magicka pool will not scale thier damage high. So stamina based characters use sets that increase weapon crit, weapon damage and stamina pool. and use weapin abilities and class/guild abilities that cost stamina and do disease/poison/physical damage to be most effective.

Same basic rules for monster seats and equipment set procs and effecs. You want them to be doing physical/disease/poison damage. Not elemental or magicka.

So.. like 5 TBS or hundings or night mothers or even somrthing like skirmisher with some agility jewellery and then velidreth/kragh 2pc will always be pretty solid setup on a stam character dps.

Then why do so many stam (sorcs) play skoria? its fire based also. Because even if its fire based, its mostly instaprocced on stam chars. And this is good burst. Same goes for red mountain. And it got a 20% proc chance. And RM can then proc ilambris fireproc. Just another way of using magic burst on stam builds. Just like nerienteth and skoria. And while nerienteth and skoria only benefit from the elemental tree, ilambris benefits from the thaumathurg perk too.

Izaki · October 2016

71r3n wrote: »

Haquor wrote: »

Is the red mountain proc fire damage? Then it scales with magicka/elemental expert.

What abilities scale off used to be complicated. Now its easy. If it costs magicka it scales of magicka/elemental expert. If it costs stamina then it scales of stamina/mighty.

Elemental/magicka abilities and procs are not ideal for stamina based characters. They will generally be gimped because your large stamina pool and minimal magicka pool will not scale thier damage high. So stamina based characters use sets that increase weapon crit, weapon damage and stamina pool. and use weapin abilities and class/guild abilities that cost stamina and do disease/poison/physical damage to be most effective.

Same basic rules for monster seats and equipment set procs and effecs. You want them to be doing physical/disease/poison damage. Not elemental or magicka.

So.. like 5 TBS or hundings or night mothers or even somrthing like skirmisher with some agility jewellery and then velidreth/kragh 2pc will always be pretty solid setup on a stam character dps.

Then why do so many stam (sorcs) play skoria? its fire based also. Because even if its fire based, its mostly instaprocced on stam chars. And this is good burst. Same goes for red mountain. And it got a 20% proc chance. And RM can then proc ilambris fireproc. Just another way of using magic burst on stam builds. Just like nerienteth and skoria. And while nerienteth and skoria only benefit from the elemental tree, ilambris benefits from the thaumathurg perk too.

They use Velidreth now. Skoria was used because there wasn't a single stamina DPS set in the game. I'd suggest you read over some recent posts and not 1.6 ones. Now its dead simple: if its physical, poison or disease it scales off weapon damage, max stamina, weapon crit and physical penetration. If its fire, shock, ice or magic it scales off spell damage, max magicka, spell crit and spell penetration. Staves scale with spell damage, all other weapons scales with weapon damage. I see that you're relatively new to the game, so I really encourage you to check out some guys who explain this stuff (Alcast, Deltia, etc.).

Red Mountain is a revamped set. It does deal flame damage but its simple not usable by magicka characters, so stamina use it. Ilambris on the other hand even gives magicka as the 1 piece bonus.

defilade__ESO · October 2016

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Neither. Viper+red mountain+Velidreth, up to and well over 30+k free damage with very little cool down.

Red mountain also procs of weapon dots like hail and slashes every 2s. So just park a boss up and burn them 9k damage for free, viper just git something every 4s minimum 9k for free.

Velidreth we've all seen it's power 10k minimum. All these can crit too.

I've actually dropped VO for this set up on my stamblade.

But there is a set isn't there which boost all physical damage attacks by 400. Stam sorc is all physical Inc hurricane so look into that also.

But the above combo does monster damage. Land a Flurry of hits all at once with these procs and you've done over 70k damage from the off.

This is exactly what some people are complaining about with this game, your freaking armor set does 9k DPS, and all you have to do is be there for the inevitable proc.

The Vicious Death set has to be the best example of this new line of armor set stupidity from Zenimax.

Hurricane is the new line of class skill stupidity, where you get a long lasting, very low cost Swiss Army knife AoE, that follows you around doing almost 1k DPS, while making you move faster and increasing your spell and phys resistance by over 5k. A pity is does not heal you and make you immune to snares and stuns too.

Jar_Ek · October 2016

@defilade__ESO it does heal you with surge...

defilade__ESO · October 2016

Jar_Ek wrote: »

@defilade__ESO it does heal you with surge...

They should just combine lightning form and surge with Hurricane, so you dont have to press so many buttons

Nidro · October 2016

A proper Setup for maelstrom is:

2 Daggers as weapons ( both sharpened)

DW Bar: Vigor - Rearming Trap - Rapid Strikes - Rending Slahses - Bound Armaments - Ult: Dawnbreaker of Smiting

Bow Bar: Poison Inj. - Endless Hail - Hurricane - Critical Surge - Bound Armaments - Ult: Energy overload

Overload Bar: Vigor - Streak - Razor Caltrops - Dark Deal - Bound Armaments

I Prefer overload on 2nd bar, as i gain Access to more skills, by not losing dps :-)

I can just go to overload in between rounds and use dark deal to fill my Stamina, or put caltrops on ground which last 27 seconds anyway.

Everything is dead in this time lol.

My gear i use is: 5 pc TBC with 5 pc VO and maelstrom daggers sharpened.

If you dont have maelstrom weapons yet, juse use Lekis weapons, or NMG daggers, or whatever u like as 2 Bonus set.

Bow is Non-Set but who cares.
I always used a poison glyph on the bow for extra damage. and i can 1hit Mobs with a middle attack with poison inj. and the proc from glyph in maelstrom Arena. Try it out
For Daggers use + weapon damage enchante and crusher enchant.

VO weapons in good traits are really really rare. so dont waste ur time getting them. just use 2 NMD (cheap) or lekis daggers sharpened. (expensive)
Always use thief as mundus and if u wear Tbc, use thief + shadow.

u can also use Hundings Rage or night mothers gaze complete if you like.

All work in Maelstrom Arena

Hope this helps.

If u Need anything just ask the community, we will always give our best to help Players :-)

Yours Nidro~~

Nidro · October 2016

For Group Content, vigor will be your Flex spot.

YOu dont Need that much of healing with a healer lol.

just use steel Tornado instead of vigor.

For Trials i Exchange steel Tornado/Vigor with Camouflage Hunter ( so i dont need to use expensive pots, and can go with normal ones lol)

Nidro · October 2016

defilade__ESO wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Neither. Viper+red mountain+Velidreth, up to and well over 30+k free damage with very little cool down.

Red mountain also procs of weapon dots like hail and slashes every 2s. So just park a boss up and burn them 9k damage for free, viper just git something every 4s minimum 9k for free.

Velidreth we've all seen it's power 10k minimum. All these can crit too.

I've actually dropped VO for this set up on my stamblade.

But there is a set isn't there which boost all physical damage attacks by 400. Stam sorc is all physical Inc hurricane so look into that also.

But the above combo does monster damage. Land a Flurry of hits all at once with these procs and you've done over 70k damage from the off.

This is exactly what some people are complaining about with this game, your freaking armor set does 9k DPS, and all you have to do is be there for the inevitable proc.

The Vicious Death set has to be the best example of this new line of armor set stupidity from Zenimax.

Hurricane is the new line of class skill stupidity, where you get a long lasting, very low cost Swiss Army knife AoE, that follows you around doing almost 1k DPS, while making you move faster and increasing your spell and phys resistance by over 5k. A pity is does not heal you and make you immune to snares and stuns too.

with the Setup i described i put our 27k dps at bloodspawn (im on ps4 without buff trackers etc.) i can improve that by alot still.

The hurricane wont hit 1k dps lol.

It gives you More movement Speed which is awesome for 15 seconds + 5280 Phys and spell resist for 15 seconds
Hurricane gets stronger and stronger while its activated.
at the beginning it will hit propably for about 1500-3000 the longer it lasts it gets up to 225% Stronger.

the last few hits with it before it runs out hit 4500-6000 crit for me. so its far more than just 1k dps LOL

Critical surge and Hurricane is your bread and butter.

Crit Surge will buff your weapon damage by 20% and heals your for a high amount when u critically hit a target.

Your crit should NEVER GO UNDER 60% as a dps char anyway.

with 2 daggers sharpened and the setup i showed u above you should have something around 64,5 - 67% crit, depening what armor types your wearing.
(im using all middle by the way, give a *** about 6% extra stats, but i have more crit and more resources :-)
i was running 6m - 1h - 0l for a Long time, but sustain is just better with 7 middle.
Ist about you)

Crit Sruge can proc each second as far as i know. It also lasts for 33 seconds.

So u activate surge 1x and hurricane 2x, then surge again.and so on.

As you see as sorc u got 2 buffs u have to maintain, but they give you 5 boosts !! FIVE!

Hope this helps.

Yours Nidro~~

Martol · October 2016

Nidro wrote: »

defilade__ESO wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Neither. Viper+red mountain+Velidreth, up to and well over 30+k free damage with very little cool down.

Red mountain also procs of weapon dots like hail and slashes every 2s. So just park a boss up and burn them 9k damage for free, viper just git something every 4s minimum 9k for free.

Velidreth we've all seen it's power 10k minimum. All these can crit too.

I've actually dropped VO for this set up on my stamblade.

But there is a set isn't there which boost all physical damage attacks by 400. Stam sorc is all physical Inc hurricane so look into that also.

But the above combo does monster damage. Land a Flurry of hits all at once with these procs and you've done over 70k damage from the off.

This is exactly what some people are complaining about with this game, your freaking armor set does 9k DPS, and all you have to do is be there for the inevitable proc.

The Vicious Death set has to be the best example of this new line of armor set stupidity from Zenimax.

Hurricane is the new line of class skill stupidity, where you get a long lasting, very low cost Swiss Army knife AoE, that follows you around doing almost 1k DPS, while making you move faster and increasing your spell and phys resistance by over 5k. A pity is does not heal you and make you immune to snares and stuns too.

with the Setup i described i put our 27k dps at bloodspawn (im on ps4 without buff trackers etc.) i can improve that by alot still.

The hurricane wont hit 1k dps lol.

It gives you More movement Speed which is awesome for 15 seconds + 5280 Phys and spell resist for 15 seconds
Hurricane gets stronger and stronger while its activated.
at the beginning it will hit propably for about 1500-3000 the longer it lasts it gets up to 225% Stronger.

the last few hits with it before it runs out hit 4500-6000 crit for me. so its far more than just 1k dps LOL

Critical surge and Hurricane is your bread and butter.

Crit Surge will buff your weapon damage by 20% and heals your for a high amount when u critically hit a target.

Your crit should NEVER GO UNDER 60% as a dps char anyway.

with 2 daggers sharpened and the setup i showed u above you should have something around 64,5 - 67% crit, depening what armor types your wearing.
(im using all middle by the way, give a *** about 6% extra stats, but i have more crit and more resources :-)
i was running 6m - 1h - 0l for a Long time, but sustain is just better with 7 middle.
Ist about you)

Crit Sruge can proc each second as far as i know. It also lasts for 33 seconds.

So u activate surge 1x and hurricane 2x, then surge again.and so on.

As you see as sorc u got 2 buffs u have to maintain, but they give you 5 boosts !! FIVE!

Hope this helps.

Yours Nidro~~

Your comments were truly amazing! Thanks man

acw37162 · October 2016

Automotan is a decent set you can have fun with.

Toothrow is a nice alternative for a stam sorc has I always have trouble finding a spot for major savagery and don't run weapon pots (just to expensive in gold or time to farm)

As for monster helm on a stam sorc for PVE I'll steal from @FeaR Turbo and use storm fist.

I may even run storm master just for effect it's not best in slot but looks fun.

Acsvf · October 2016

71r3n wrote: »

You could try something like "ilambris (2pc), Red Mountain (5pc) and Way of Fire (5pc).
Weapons would proly be something like 2 Swords (precise, 1 fire enchant, 1 with returning stam on hit).

Skills would be...

Bar1:
Steel Tornado -> Resolving Vigor -> Bound Armaments -> Camouflaged Hunter -> Rearming Trap -> Flawless Dawnbraker

Bar2:
Hurricane -> Critical Surge -> Bound Armaments -> Camouflaged Hunter -> Liquid Lightning -> Shooting Star

Playstyle:
Bound Armaments always on. Start with buffing (First Surge, then Hurrican cause of the CD), walk to your enemies, drop a Lighning Liquid in the group, drop a Rearming Trap if youre in the middle of the enemies, and start spaming Steel Tornado (Weaved).
If your ult is up, switch to bar 2, drop Shooting Star, drop Liquid Lighning, rebuff, and switch back to bar 1.

Explanation:
Bound Armaments, Camouflage Hunter, and Flawless Dawnbraker should be clear. Just activate BA once, and only slot CH and FD for the passive Benefits.
Critical Surge is for your standard Heal, and Resolving Vigor if it gets critical.
Steel Tornado spam is for procing Red Mountain.
And Red Mountain, Hurricane, Liquid Lightling and Shooting Star are just for procing Ilanbris.

Personaly, i think about swithing the Way of the Fire set for Draugr Hulk since im playing a Khajeet.
Armor would be 5/1/1 (Med,Heavy, Light) for Undaunted passive.

Thats it. Hope you enjoy. And be critical.

Liquid Lightning? Why?

Soleya · October 2016

I don't have Viscious Ophidian yet, so what I'm running in the meantime is 5xHundings, 3xAgility, 2xValkyn Skoria (don't have a Velidreth helm yet), Night Mothers Bow, Night Mothers Dagger + Maelstrom Axe (only one complete on arena so far, so bow and dagger are just gold quality weapons I had from before).

For most content I run

Arrow Barrage, Poison Injection, Hurricane, Crit Surge, Bound Armaments, Power Surge or Absorbtion Field
Blood Craze, Bloodthirst, Steel Tornado, Trap Beast, Bound Armaments, Flawless Dawnbreaker.

I swap out Trap Beast for Vigor or Caltrops (if no one else uses it) depending on the situations.

For Maelstrom I swap Agility jewelry for Endurence for more stam regen at slightly less dmg. I'm mostly focusing on survivablity and completion (not good time or getting on leaderboards, etc)
Arrow Barrage, Poison Injection, Hurricane, Crit Surge, Caltrops, Power Surge
Blood Craze, Bloodthirst, Trap Beast, Vigor, Dark Deal, Flawless Dawnbreaker.

I've also been trying the Iceheart set for maelstrom arena. The damage shield pretty much procs every 6 seconds due to all the AOEs and DOTs going on.

Single target I typically get 20-24k dps depending on situation. Only having one maelstrom weapon, the proc rate is too unreliable for a rotation. Sometimes I do 8-10 flurries before it procs. On trash pulls I average bout 55k dps, since the build is heavy AOE damage.

I am planning to try VO + Spriggan, or VO + Toothrow, but not enough of any of those sets yet.

Shader_Shibes · October 2016

Nidro wrote: »

A proper Setup for maelstrom is:

2 Daggers as weapons ( both sharpened)

DW Bar: Vigor - Rearming Trap - Rapid Strikes - Rending Slahses - Bound Armaments - Ult: Dawnbreaker of Smiting

Bow Bar: Poison Inj. - Endless Hail - Hurricane - Critical Surge - Bound Armaments - Ult: Energy overload

Overload Bar: Vigor - Streak - Razor Caltrops - Dark Deal - Bound Armaments

I Prefer overload on 2nd bar, as i gain Access to more skills, by not losing dps :-)

I can just go to overload in between rounds and use dark deal to fill my Stamina, or put caltrops on ground which last 27 seconds anyway.

Everything is dead in this time lol.

My gear i use is: 5 pc TBC with 5 pc VO and maelstrom daggers sharpened.

If you dont have maelstrom weapons yet, juse use Lekis weapons, or NMG daggers, or whatever u like as 2 Bonus set.

Bow is Non-Set but who cares.
I always used a poison glyph on the bow for extra damage. and i can 1hit Mobs with a middle attack with poison inj. and the proc from glyph in maelstrom Arena. Try it out
For Daggers use + weapon damage enchante and crusher enchant.

VO weapons in good traits are really really rare. so dont waste ur time getting them. just use 2 NMD (cheap) or lekis daggers sharpened. (expensive)
Always use thief as mundus and if u wear Tbc, use thief + shadow.

u can also use Hundings Rage or night mothers gaze complete if you like.

All work in Maelstrom Arena

Hope this helps.

If u Need anything just ask the community, we will always give our best to help Players :-)

Yours Nidro~~

I disagree, a proper set up for vma is 5x Night Mothers Gaze, 5x Vicious Ophidian, 2x Velidreth

DW bar - Rapid Strikes - Steel Tornado - Rearming Trap - Surge - Bound Armaments
Bow bar - Caltrops - Poison Inj - Endless Hail - Hurricane - Bound Armaments

Stam sorc does not need vigor in vma, crit surge is better and with caltrops down its amazing! You dont need rending slashes, bosses die super quick without it anyway, just have your caltrops, trap down, plink em with poison inj then spam rapid strikes, rinse and repeat til dead.

I was hesitant in running without vigor, but caltrops+crit surge+steel tornado is

Brrrofski · October 2016

I'm on xbox so no one Tamriel yet, but can't see this changing much (maybe the monster set to kragh or even Stonefist for double execute proc)

Either:
5 twice born star
5 vicious ophidian
Maelstrom daggers (or 1 dagger, 1 axe)
Maelstrom bow

Or

2 velidreth
5 hunding's
5 vicious ophidian
Maelstrom bow

No maelstrom, then use hunding's bow.

Banetek · February 2017

Nidro wrote: »

A proper Setup for maelstrom is:

2 Daggers as weapons ( both sharpened)

DW Bar: Vigor - Rearming Trap - Rapid Strikes - Rending Slahses - Bound Armaments - Ult: Dawnbreaker of Smiting

Bow Bar: Poison Inj. - Endless Hail - Hurricane - Critical Surge - Bound Armaments - Ult: Energy overload

Overload Bar: Vigor - Streak - Razor Caltrops - Dark Deal - Bound Armaments

I Prefer overload on 2nd bar, as i gain Access to more skills, by not losing dps :-)

I can just go to overload in between rounds and use dark deal to fill my Stamina, or put caltrops on ground which last 27 seconds anyway.

Everything is dead in this time lol.

My gear i use is: 5 pc TBC with 5 pc VO and maelstrom daggers sharpened.

If you dont have maelstrom weapons yet, juse use Lekis weapons, or NMG daggers, or whatever u like as 2 Bonus set.

Bow is Non-Set but who cares.
I always used a poison glyph on the bow for extra damage. and i can 1hit Mobs with a middle attack with poison inj. and the proc from glyph in maelstrom Arena. Try it out
For Daggers use + weapon damage enchante and crusher enchant.

VO weapons in good traits are really really rare. so dont waste ur time getting them. just use 2 NMD (cheap) or lekis daggers sharpened. (expensive)
Always use thief as mundus and if u wear Tbc, use thief + shadow.

u can also use Hundings Rage or night mothers gaze complete if you like.

All work in Maelstrom Arena

Hope this helps.

If u Need anything just ask the community, we will always give our best to help Players :-)

Yours Nidro~~

Is this for stam sorc and I assume you use that lightening ability for an extra bar instead of dawnbreaker for extra dps again, this is speaking about a stam sorc!! thanks again

Stannum · February 2017

I used 5automaton+5NMG+2thunderfist (sharpened maces+daggers)