So are all the classes balanced?

blasphammer · October 2016

I'm a kinda new player and got kinda confused to pick my main class. I don't wanna waste many hours finding out that I did something non-optimal way and I gotta start over.
So what would be the most suitable and most well balanced class to do majority of content in this game?
What's the current state of stam vs mag classes?
Thanks in advance

psychotic13 · October 2016

Stam is currently stronger than Magicka, although all my characters are Magicka and I do just fine, the biggest factor is skill level not class.

Strider_Roshin · October 2016

They're all fairly balanced. Nightblades are probably the weakest class overall for PvE. In PvP the magicka DK under-performs whereas the magicka templar over-performs.

Strider_Roshin · October 2016

If you want the strongest class/type for both PvE and PvP then be a stam DK.

Komma · October 2016

Fairly balanced. Its light armor and maybe mages guild that need some work.

Lord_Wrath · October 2016

Its all on play style and how your actions perform. Youll have responses all over the place from everyone, but ive seen more arguments on stamina being stronger than magica.

Paneross · October 2016

Stam is DOMINATING PvP there's no comparison at all.

Thelon · October 2016

Nestor · October 2016

Balance changes from Patch to Patch, and month to month.

Roll a character in each class, then it won't matter.

Komma · October 2016

Paneross wrote: »

Stam is DOMINATING PvP there's no comparison at all.

Thats because of all the bandwagon min maxers switched to stam and thats mostly what you see out in pvp. Magicka does fine if you dont suck.

Isellskooma · October 2016

Rohamad_Ali · October 2016

Nestor wrote: »

Balance changes from Patch to Patch, and month to month.

Roll a character in each class, then it won't matter.

Paneross · October 2016

Komma wrote: »

Paneross wrote: »

Stam is DOMINATING PvP there's no comparison at all.

Thats because of all the bandwagon min maxers switched to stam and thats mostly what you see out in pvp. Magicka does fine if you dont suck.

Thanks for confirming my statement.

Foxic · October 2016

Paneross wrote: »

Stam is DOMINATING PvP there's no comparison at all.

German won the dueling tournament on pcna yesterday with a Mag sorc

Pallio · October 2016

Naked they would all be close, the problem is how the classes/builds interact with available gear sets etc. VO for example on a stam class doesn't have an equivalent for magic etc. Like Julianos vs. Hundings rage basically the same.. then you have to look at Dot procs vs. DD, melee vs. range etc.. Play what you are most comfortable with and perfecting your rotation will make you the best at whatever you want to play.

Foxic · October 2016

For pve all of the dps classes are very balanced right now. You will have forum warriors say that stamina is op because they've seen 58K manticora parses that don't matter, totally disregarding that all of the top scoring teams run almost all magicka for every trial(not just for shields on maw hardmode). Fact of the matter is, every class in both stam and magic can dps trials in the top tier groups. That has never been the case in eso before.

In pvp stamina is very strong but that isn't to say magicka is bad. Just yesterday the pcna dueling tournament was won by a magsorc. Magicka dk is hurting in open world a bit but is very good in 1v1

psychotic13 · October 2016

What makes stam more powerful isn't really class related, it's as mentioned the mages guild and light armor both need a rework, and the Destro isn't great.

And on top of that stamina has proc sets like viper, Velidreth and poisonous serpent which gives them a superior burst and that's how you win in PvP.

Xvorg · October 2016

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

For pve all of the dps classes are very balanced right now. You will have forum warriors say that stamina is op because they've seen 58K manticora parses that don't matter, totally disregarding that all of the top scoring teams run almost all magicka for every trial(not just for shields on maw hardmode). Fact of the matter is, every class in both stam and magic can dps trials in the top tier groups. That has never been the case in eso before.

In pvp stamina is very strong but that isn't to say magicka is bad. Just yesterday the pcna dueling tournament was won by a magsorc. Magicka dk is hurting in open world a bit but is very good in 1v1

duelling =/= PvP

Sure, a mag sorc can win duels because the mechanics are different than those from cyro. In cyro any mag sorc can be ganked easily

Panda_iMunch · October 2016

Really hard to say what class is balanced as the data is really skewed. There's no arena environment to serve PvP balance, but there is a lot for PvE, so classes are mixed when it comes to PvP. I often hear that classes are balanced atm, but that changes depending on what forum you're on.

Foxic · October 2016

Xvorg wrote: »

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

For pve all of the dps classes are very balanced right now. You will have forum warriors say that stamina is op because they've seen 58K manticora parses that don't matter, totally disregarding that all of the top scoring teams run almost all magicka for every trial(not just for shields on maw hardmode). Fact of the matter is, every class in both stam and magic can dps trials in the top tier groups. That has never been the case in eso before.

In pvp stamina is very strong but that isn't to say magicka is bad. Just yesterday the pcna dueling tournament was won by a magsorc. Magicka dk is hurting in open world a bit but is very good in 1v1

duelling =/= PvP

Sure, a mag sorc can win duels because the mechanics are different than those from cyro. In cyro any mag sorc can be ganked easily

If dueling isn't pvp why is ganking?

WalksonGraves · October 2016

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

They're all fairly balanced. Nightblades are probably the weakest class overall for PvE. In PvP the magicka DK under-performs whereas the magicka templar over-performs.

As DPS, NB make amazing tanks

Xvorg · October 2016

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

Xvorg wrote: »

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

For pve all of the dps classes are very balanced right now. You will have forum warriors say that stamina is op because they've seen 58K manticora parses that don't matter, totally disregarding that all of the top scoring teams run almost all magicka for every trial(not just for shields on maw hardmode). Fact of the matter is, every class in both stam and magic can dps trials in the top tier groups. That has never been the case in eso before.

In pvp stamina is very strong but that isn't to say magicka is bad. Just yesterday the pcna dueling tournament was won by a magsorc. Magicka dk is hurting in open world a bit but is very good in 1v1

duelling =/= PvP

Sure, a mag sorc can win duels because the mechanics are different than those from cyro. In cyro any mag sorc can be ganked easily

If dueling isn't pvp why is ganking?

Ok, I'm going to rephrase.

Duel is half way between original PvP in this game (AvAvA) and PvE. Yes, it is a PvP instance but quite different form what you see in cyro due to the skills you need to survive a raid. In duels you know who's your enemy and you know more or less how he will attack you. In Cyro you don't know that. You have to react to the ganker sniping you, to the sorc's hurricane and the tank's malucheese at the same time and the best way to avoid the dmg of those 3 is by dodge roling. That's why stam chars are beter prepared for old PvP.

The fact that magicka can duel has little to do with the current status of magicka in cyro.

Strider_Roshin · October 2016

Paneross wrote: »

Stam is DOMINATING PvP there's no comparison at all.

Except the top spot in PvP is held my magplars.

Strider_Roshin · October 2016

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

They're all fairly balanced. Nightblades are probably the weakest class overall for PvE. In PvP the magicka DK under-performs whereas the magicka templar over-performs.

As DPS, NB make amazing tanks

Does this include trials?

NoMoreChillies · October 2016

step 1 - learn your class and role as best you can
step 2 - ignore all forum QQ
step 3 - enjoy the game

Siphoneer · October 2016

All these peeps defending the stamina meta (I havent experianced the problem therefor it dont exist)

KingYogi415 · October 2016

As a new play you want to avoid stam.

Also avoid magic dk.

And now you have 3 options. Call them starter Pokemon if you will.

Elara_Northwind · October 2016

Play what you enjoy the most. Whatever class is 'OP' changes constantly. As long as you love and know your class well, you will do well, no matter what the FOTM is at the time

I personally played magicka sorcerer as my first, then I made a stam DK. I hated templars and I hated Bretons, and so I made a Breton Templar for a laugh one day and I loved it so so much and never looked back. I now have 6 templars

WalksonGraves · October 2016

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

They're all fairly balanced. Nightblades are probably the weakest class overall for PvE. In PvP the magicka DK under-performs whereas the magicka templar over-performs.

As DPS, NB make amazing tanks

Does this include trials?

Haven't had a problem yet

Strider_Roshin · October 2016

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

WalksonGraves wrote: »

Strider_Roshin wrote: »

They're all fairly balanced. Nightblades are probably the weakest class overall for PvE. In PvP the magicka DK under-performs whereas the magicka templar over-performs.

As DPS, NB make amazing tanks

Does this include trials?

Haven't had a problem yet

Would you mind throwing a build my way? I wouldn't mind checking it out.

bantad87 · October 2016

Xvorg wrote: »

TotallyNotVos wrote: »

For pve all of the dps classes are very balanced right now. You will have forum warriors say that stamina is op because they've seen 58K manticora parses that don't matter, totally disregarding that all of the top scoring teams run almost all magicka for every trial(not just for shields on maw hardmode). Fact of the matter is, every class in both stam and magic can dps trials in the top tier groups. That has never been the case in eso before.

In pvp stamina is very strong but that isn't to say magicka is bad. Just yesterday the pcna dueling tournament was won by a magsorc. Magicka dk is hurting in open world a bit but is very good in 1v1

duelling =/= PvP

Sure, a mag sorc can win duels because the mechanics are different than those from cyro. In cyro any mag sorc can be ganked easily

In Cyro, anybody can be ganked really easily. Not really exclusive to mag sorcs, or mag classes in general.