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bit of an exploit conserning writs
ok so befor the run up to update 12 i did all tier 1 writs ... i didnt bother collecting any of the maps so i had them all stacked on 12 toons today i go and collect some to clear space .... low and behold those resources nodes are scaling to my crafting lvl
so i went and done anouther set of tier 1 (after patch) ... and got a few more maps stuck them into the bank and withdrew them on my main crafter which is maxed
that map which cost me 20 ore .... awarded me 156 rubidite ore
is this working as intended
so i went and done anouther set of tier 1 (after patch) ... and got a few more maps stuck them into the bank and withdrew them on my main crafter which is maxed
that map which cost me 20 ore .... awarded me 156 rubidite ore
is this working as intended
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✭✭✭✭✭So survey maps are scaling to character crafting level they are found on... rather than what level of writ you did for the map?
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So survey maps are scaling to character crafting level they are found on... rather than what level of writ you did for the map?
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correct
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karldavy149b16_ESO wrote: »So survey maps are scaling to character crafting level they are found on... rather than what level of writ you did for the map?
@ZOS_GinaBruno
correct
i even reported it on the pts ... why im posting it here because frankly i have no faith in the bug report method if this is indeed not working as intended that u guys would let this thro to live5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I kind of anticipated this, but I figured I had to be overthinking it."A probable impossibility is preferable to an improbable possibility." - Aristotle0 -
im not complainging ive got 100s of writ maps from tier 1 writs .... so ill be refining for a while but yeah that surely as to be broken
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✭✭✭based on the idea it was seen as such in PTS and kind of fits with the every node scales everywhere, i am not sure that this will be an exploit vs an acceptable by-product or as-intended by the time it shakes out.
Either way... still in repair mode so... if they identify it as exploit that would be good to know. one of my first tasks was going to be to unpack lots of crates of survey maps to let them stack and then resolves them. got level 1 and level 10s a plenty though all the level1s are alchemy (mostly - a few enchants) while the 10s are everything.
if i take my level 1s and harvest them and then get tagged with some ban or stuff... will not be happy camper.
Might sit on those until we get a thumbs up or down on this. (But frankly alchemy surveys dont proc the levelling stuff anyway.)
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based on the idea it was seen as such in PTS and kind of fits with the every node scales everywhere, i am not sure that this will be an exploit vs an acceptable by-product or as-intended by the time it shakes out.
Either way... still in repair mode so... if they identify it as exploit that would be good to know. one of my first tasks was going to be to unpack lots of crates of survey maps to let them stack and then resolves them. got level 1 and level 10s a plenty though all the level1s are alchemy (mostly - a few enchants) while the 10s are everything.
if i take my level 1s and harvest them and then get tagged with some ban or stuff... will not be happy camper.
Might sit on those until we get a thumbs up or down on this. (But frankly alchemy surveys dont proc the levelling stuff anyway.)
yeah im playing it save the post as not been locked yet so im thinking it may have been something they knew about but couldnt work around it so let it thro
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STEVIL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Question for those who have done writs for equip on live, not about the survey maps but about the gear pieces ornate and stuff... when you did a tier one ORE writ did you get tier-1 gear or gear scaled to your level in the base reward crate?
if the crate is tier 1 and the skarldavy149b16_ESO wrote: »based on the idea it was seen as such in PTS and kind of fits with the every node scales everywhere, i am not sure that this will be an exploit vs an acceptable by-product or as-intended by the time it shakes out.
Either way... still in repair mode so... if they identify it as exploit that would be good to know. one of my first tasks was going to be to unpack lots of crates of survey maps to let them stack and then resolves them. got level 1 and level 10s a plenty though all the level1s are alchemy (mostly - a few enchants) while the 10s are everything.
if i take my level 1s and harvest them and then get tagged with some ban or stuff... will not be happy camper.
Might sit on those until we get a thumbs up or down on this. (But frankly alchemy surveys dont proc the levelling stuff anyway.)
yeah im playing it save the post as not been locked yet so im thinking it may have been something they knew about but couldnt work around it so let it thro
aint many people gona do it ... yeah right anyone with any empty slots is creating toons right now
Well frankly onet will have so many mats flowing in for folks to use at their level that to me its no big deal.
Like i said i ran provis and alchemy writs at level 1 on the main game for long while... only diff was the grease and water was lower (both ways) but it beat skilling up those in all my alts.
I can see it being a concern for equip... but still wait5 and see.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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Question for those who have done writs for equip on live, not about the survey maps but about the gear pieces ornate and stuff... when you did a tier one ORE writ did you get tier-1 gear or gear scaled to your level in the base reward crate?
if the crate is tier 1 and the skarldavy149b16_ESO wrote: »based on the idea it was seen as such in PTS and kind of fits with the every node scales everywhere, i am not sure that this will be an exploit vs an acceptable by-product or as-intended by the time it shakes out.
Either way... still in repair mode so... if they identify it as exploit that would be good to know. one of my first tasks was going to be to unpack lots of crates of survey maps to let them stack and then resolves them. got level 1 and level 10s a plenty though all the level1s are alchemy (mostly - a few enchants) while the 10s are everything.
if i take my level 1s and harvest them and then get tagged with some ban or stuff... will not be happy camper.
Might sit on those until we get a thumbs up or down on this. (But frankly alchemy surveys dont proc the levelling stuff anyway.)
yeah im playing it save the post as not been locked yet so im thinking it may have been something they knew about but couldnt work around it so let it thro
aint many people gona do it ... yeah right anyone with any empty slots is creating toons right now
Well frankly onet will have so many mats flowing in for folks to use at their level that to me its no big deal.
Like i said i ran provis and alchemy writs at level 1 on the main game for long while... only diff was the grease and water was lower (both ways) but it beat skilling up those in all my alts.
I can see it being a concern for equip... but still wait5 and see.
ok ive tallied my maps i have 224 maps in total in unopened chest all old lvl 1 maps
about an even split between all 5 map types
each map is giving a base of 20 resources per node 6 nodes = 120 of each mat befor u have the chance to get double
thats roughly 4800 of each high tier mat i have at a cost of very cheap lvl 1 mats
its gona take a while for me to gather them so from this point on its pure speculation but if u assume my average of 1 legendary per half stack ... thats alot of legendarys im sitting on
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✭✭✭✭✭Survey maps are supposed to scale to crafter level, aren't they? That fits with the essence of One Tamriel where "all nodes scale to crafter level".UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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STEVIL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭i have 90+ surveys now in mostly tier 10 but plenty of tier-1 alchemy
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ValkynSketha✭✭✭✭✭As i know from patch notes, the drop rate of maps from writs got nerfed, however the nodes from these maps give double the material.0 -
SpAEkus✭✭✭✭This looks just like the old Hireling Mail where opened on the highest character gave best loot. They changed that. I can guess they would change this as well since the writs/maps can now stack.2
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STEVIL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭and now i have to find craglorn access for all my crafters who are at tier-10 because they took away the orsinium turn in?
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BergisMacBride✭✭✭✭✭Highest level provisioning writs are again requiring the pre-Wrothgar (CP 50) recipes.
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✭✭✭✭✭Survey maps are supposed to scale to crafter level, aren't they? That fits with the essence of One Tamriel where "all nodes scale to crafter level".
Well, yeah @Enodoc But is it intended that I can do let's say.. 6 tier one crafting writs on other characters.. then just transfer the maps to my main crafter to get the top tier rewards from the maps?Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord0 -
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Oh I get you. Maybe an oversight then? But their solution, if they decide to implement one, would likely to be to bind Surveys to character. Would that be a good idea? (Legit question)
Well, yeah Enodoc But is it intended that I can do let's say.. 6 tier one crafting writs on other characters.. then just transfer the maps to my main crafter to get the top tier rewards from the maps?Survey maps are supposed to scale to crafter level, aren't they? That fits with the essence of One Tamriel where "all nodes scale to crafter level".UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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Survey maps are supposed to scale to crafter level, aren't they? That fits with the essence of One Tamriel where "all nodes scale to crafter level".
Well, yeah @Enodoc But is it intended that I can do let's say.. 6 tier one crafting writs on other characters.. then just transfer the maps to my main crafter to get the top tier rewards from the maps?
@ZOS_GinaBruno can u confirm if it is working as intended that i can complete tier 1 writs ... get maps transfer them to a high crafting lvl toon and then collect the tier 10 mats ...0 -
Oh I get you. Maybe an oversight then? But their solution, if they decide to implement one, would likely to be to bind Surveys to character. Would that be a good idea? (Legit question)
Well, yeah Enodoc But is it intended that I can do let's say.. 6 tier one crafting writs on other characters.. then just transfer the maps to my main crafter to get the top tier rewards from the maps?Survey maps are supposed to scale to crafter level, aren't they? That fits with the essence of One Tamriel where "all nodes scale to crafter level".
wouldnt work either because i would run low lvl writs for a month build up a huge supply of maps respec and invest skill points into crafting and then get high lvl mats again ...
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✭✭✭✭✭Since when are the survey maps bankable again?
I guess making them not bankable is the only way to "fix" this if it is indeed a bug. Because the survey nodes only spawn if you get close while you have the map in your inventory and I can't imagine the coding nightmare it would be to have the game go "This character approaching with the map has crafting level 10, but the one that opened the crate was crafting level 5, therefore I'm going to spawn level 5 mats."Edited by AlnilamE on October 5, 2016 8:30PMThe Moot Councillor1 -
Thrasher91604✭✭✭✭✭Do treasure maps also scale to the character level that digs it up and opens the chest? I've got a few lowbie maps saved...0 -
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✭✭✭maps always did that. have for long while at least.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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STEVIL✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Since when are the survey maps bankable again?
I guess making them not bankable is the only way to "fix" this if it is indeed a bug. Because the survey nodes only spawn if you get close while you have the map in your inventory and I can't imagine the coding nightmare it would be to have the game go "This character approaching with the map has crafting level 10, but the one that opened the crate was crafting level 5, therefore I'm going to spawn level 5 mats."
they were only unbanked for a short time, a week maybe when they worked out a bug fix.
and they are still now bankable and stackable.
first thing i did ewas open all my crates and upload to bank so they all stacked up. About to send someone out for 13 and 16 each of certain orsinium enchant surveys later tonight.
i think i had over a hundred total between the chars, but ALL the equips were orsinium... some of the aclhemy and a few enchants were other zones.Proudly skooma free while talks-when-drunk is in mandatory public housing.
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✭✭✭Thrasher91604 wrote: »Do treasure maps also scale to the character level that digs it up and opens the chest? I've got a few lowbie maps saved...
I'm pretty sure they should. Previously the maps scaled to the zone, patch notes say at least CE maps will scale to your level. I'm pretty sure, since they have no level, regular maps should do the same.Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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Thrasher91604✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, that was my thought with the note about CE maps. Will try them out tonight.0
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✭✭✭yeah it took about a minute to realize what i meant and said.
they DID scale with the character you gave them to... but sidewways
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A character from AD picks up an Auridon map. its like tier-1 crap.
banks it to an EP character for whom Auridon is GOLD.
Ep harvest maps in its gold areas that may have been picked up by characters at lower level...
net result a gold map chest putting out tier-10 (mostly) stuff.
So, really it was mostly the same thing, the chest was scaling to whatever the ZONE was for the character opening the chest even if it was acquired by a character for whom that zone was and still is much lower level.
What i recalled was when they made the Cp redo of gold and silver zones when vet ranks went away... was careful to let the right characters harvest the right maps for the right zones.
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