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Why is Blade of Woe kill and Vampire feeding done by the same "X" key? Could this be improved ZOS??
altemriel
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Hi guys, hi ZOS,
i just realized it yesterday, playing my first vampire char (I just started the Dark Brotherhood questline with her), that the Blade of Woe kill is also done by pressing "X", but the same goes for Vampire feeding (also done by "X").
It somehow depends on the distance to target, but still it happened to me more times, that I wanted to feed, but have done the Blade of Woe kill and vice versa.
I was trying to change the key to something else in Settings-Controls menu, but I did not find these skills under separate key biddings.
Is there any way how to do it? Or is it intended/bugged?
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_RichLambert
ZOS, would it not be possible to add a "bid another key" option for these skills to the Settings-Controls menu?
Edited by altemriel on October 4, 2016 10:35AM i just realized it yesterday, playing my first vampire char (I just started the Dark Brotherhood questline with her), that the Blade of Woe kill is also done by pressing "X", but the same goes for Vampire feeding (also done by "X").
It somehow depends on the distance to target, but still it happened to me more times, that I wanted to feed, but have done the Blade of Woe kill and vice versa.
I was trying to change the key to something else in Settings-Controls menu, but I did not find these skills under separate key biddings.
Is there any way how to do it? Or is it intended/bugged?
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_RichLambert
ZOS, would it not be possible to add a "bid another key" option for these skills to the Settings-Controls menu?
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PS4_ZeColmeia✭✭✭✭✭This has been a complaint since db pts. Honestly my guess is xbone doesn't have enough keys to bind short of other combo keys...which would be acceptable.
Actually no clue why they never fixed itPSN: ***___Chan (3 _s)
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✭✭✭PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »This has been a complaint since db pts. Honestly my guess is xbone doesn't have enough keys to bind short of other combo keys...which would be acceptable.
Actually no clue why they never fixed it
well yes, but they could have fixed it at least for PC/Mac!
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✭✭✭Aye, I accidently fed on so many NPC's while I was about to Woe them. Needless bounties and mad NPC's.٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
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PS4_ZeColmeia✭✭✭✭✭PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »This has been a complaint since db pts. Honestly my guess is xbone doesn't have enough keys to bind short of other combo keys...which would be acceptable.
Actually no clue why they never fixed it
well yes, but they could have fixed it at least for PC/Mac!
I'm on ps4 we have at least 4 keys unused on the touchpad we don't use that could easily bind to ps vita as well on the screen.
I know the computer as a huge amount, so I'm going to blame Microsoft for fubar on xboneEdited by PS4_ZeColmeia on October 4, 2016 12:25PMPSN: ***___Chan (3 _s)
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✭I reported this problem when the Dark Brotherhood dlc first hit live. Of course ZOS has done nothing about it. There is a add on that will fix the issue. It is called Vampire Woe. It provides an option to disable Vampire Feeding when using the X key.Edited by Palidon on October 4, 2016 12:38PM1 -
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✭It was a surprise to see them on the same key, but I have multiple vampire characters, and it's not been an issue. Just need to pay attention is all.0 -
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✭✭✭I reported this problem when the Dark Brotherhood dlc first hit live. Of course ZOS has done nothing about it. There is a add on that will fix the issue. It is called Vampire Woe. It provides an option to disable Vampire Feeding when using the X key.
yes, I have seen that addon, but I somehow did not understand how it works. Now after reading this part I finaly understand
You can set a keybind to turn this functionality on or off in realtime when you want to feed.
I have to test it out today.
Thank you!
http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1375-VampiresWoe.html#info
Edited by altemriel on October 4, 2016 12:48PM0 -
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✭On pc you can install an addon that turns off vampire feeding.
Since they made 100% sure in the db patch that there were no reason what so ever to feed as a vampire as it takes away your vampire abilities if you do, then it is no issue not to be able to feed.
They should just have added the no_feed flag to the basic game options on console to fix the problem.0 -
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✭✭✭nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »
....Since they made 100% sure in the db patch that there were no reason what so ever to feed as a vampire as it takes away your vampire abilities if you do, then it is no issue not to be able to feed.
I am not sure what you mean, but nothing takes your vamp abilities away. The only thing feeding/not feeding changes is fire resistance/magicka costs of vamp abilities
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✭nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »
....Since they made 100% sure in the db patch that there were no reason what so ever to feed as a vampire as it takes away your vampire abilities if you do, then it is no issue not to be able to feed.
I am not sure what you mean, but nothing takes your vamp abilities away. The only thing feeding/not feeding changes is fire resistance/magicka costs of vamp abilitiesnikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »
....Since they made 100% sure in the db patch that there were no reason what so ever to feed as a vampire as it takes away your vampire abilities if you do, then it is no issue not to be able to feed.
I am not sure what you mean, but nothing takes your vamp abilities away. The only thing feeding/not feeding changes is fire resistance/magicka costs of vamp abilities
Heh they changed that in the db dlc. Now you lose the stealth speed at stage 3, you lose the damage resistance at stage 2 and the mag/stam regen at stage 1.
So there is no reason what so ever to feed anymore as a vampire.
There is a game flag in the game that turns off the feeding synergy, the addon use that flag. And since there is no reason to feed anymore they should just add that flag to the base game options.0 -
Darkonflare15✭✭✭✭✭nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »
....Since they made 100% sure in the db patch that there were no reason what so ever to feed as a vampire as it takes away your vampire abilities if you do, then it is no issue not to be able to feed.
I am not sure what you mean, but nothing takes your vamp abilities away. The only thing feeding/not feeding changes is fire resistance/magicka costs of vamp abilities
I have learn when I come to this problem is that the closer you are is when you can activate the blade of woe. Once I learn that really do not have that problem anymore. The only time really is when a npc turns around or moves out range very fast and switches from blade of woe to feeding but I just consider that just an assassin mistake.0 -
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✭✭✭✭You can spam mist form to get back to stage 4. (or any other stage you like).
I can only imagine that the reason blade of woe and vampire feeding is the same key is because consoles. I play using a keyboard and have over 300 key and key+modifier combinations at my disposal, so I just assume it is to cater to gamepads/controllers.Edited by Epona222 on October 4, 2016 1:10PMGM - Ghost Sea Trading Co - NA PC
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✭✭✭nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »
....Since they made 100% sure in the db patch that there were no reason what so ever to feed as a vampire as it takes away your vampire abilities if you do, then it is no issue not to be able to feed.
I am not sure what you mean, but nothing takes your vamp abilities away. The only thing feeding/not feeding changes is fire resistance/magicka costs of vamp abilitiesnikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »
....Since they made 100% sure in the db patch that there were no reason what so ever to feed as a vampire as it takes away your vampire abilities if you do, then it is no issue not to be able to feed.
I am not sure what you mean, but nothing takes your vamp abilities away. The only thing feeding/not feeding changes is fire resistance/magicka costs of vamp abilities
Heh they changed that in the db dlc. Now you lose the stealth speed at stage 3, you lose the damage resistance at stage 2 and the mag/stam regen at stage 1.
So there is no reason what so ever to feed anymore as a vampire.
There is a game flag in the game that turns off the feeding synergy, the addon use that flag. And since there is no reason to feed anymore they should just add that flag to the base game options.
hmm, I see it now - did it really go to Live like this???? WTH??
What is the point of vampire feeding now ZOS????!!
Ok, ok, I get it - the visual looks great, that is it!! Ok then
https://www.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/4gf7y3/news_eso_pts_240_dark_brotherhood_patch_notes/
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Vampire
Dark Stalker: This passive ability now only functions when you are in Vampire Stage 4.
Drain Essence: This ability and its morphs now tick 3 times over their channel durations, down from 4, but their damage per tick has been increased and they now restore 20% of your missing health per tick to compensate.
Mist Form:
This ability and its morphs now remove previously applied snares and immobilizations, in addition to making you immune to any new ones while active.
Increased the cost of this ability and its morphs by approximately 5%.
Updated the tooltip for this ability and its morphs to indicate it has always disabled your Magicka Recovery while active.
Poison Mist (Mist Form morph):
Renamed this morph to Baleful Mist.
In addition to the changes made to the base ability, this morph now ticks and deals damage every second instead of every 1.5 seconds, causing it to deal damage 1 additional time over its duration.
This morph now deals Magic Damage instead of Poison Damage.
Supernatural Recovery: This passive ability no longer requires a Vampire ability to be slotted, and now only functions when you are in Vampire Stage 2 or higher.
Undeath: This passive ability now only functions when you are in Vampire Stage 3 or higher.
Vampirism:
Increased the timer to advance each Vampire Stage to 6 hours from 30 minutes, but casting any Vampire ability will advance this timer by 30 minutes. Feeding as a Vampire will continue to lower your Vampire Stage by 1.
Vampire Stage benefits and penalties are now as follows:
Stage 1: 0% Flame Damage taken, 0% Vampire Ability cost reduction, 0% Health Recovery reduction
Stage 2: 15% Flame Damage taken, 7% Vampire Ability cost reduction, 25% Health Recovery reduction
Stage 3: 20% Flame Damage taken, 14% Vampire Ability cost reduction, 50% Health Recovery reduction
Stage 4: 25% Flame Damage taken, 21% Vampire Ability cost reduction, 75% Health Recovery reductionEdited by altemriel on October 4, 2016 1:44PM0 -
Skcarkden✭✭✭✭PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »PS4_ZeColmeia wrote: »This has been a complaint since db pts. Honestly my guess is xbone doesn't have enough keys to bind short of other combo keys...which would be acceptable.
Actually no clue why they never fixed it
well yes, but they could have fixed it at least for PC/Mac!
I'm on ps4 we have at least 4 keys unused on the touchpad we don't use that could easily bind to ps vita as well on the screen.
I know the computer as a huge amount, so I'm going to blame Microsoft for fubar on xbone
Regrettebly i have eso on PS4 instead of my xbox because i wanted to play with friends, what extra keys does PS4 have? far as i knew the only difference with control is the gimmick touchpad and dedicated 'share' button.0