Just as viable as any other class. Use the Dragon set, Bloodspawn and Potentates and you'll be casting War Horn just as often as a DK. Same goes for Sorc but they have an awesome root.

Templar tank is only useful if you go Tank/Healer with 3 DDs by your side . Getting taunt and healing others while surviving the attacks . 3 DDs will make the run go faster . Is it necessary ? Absolutely not . I would take a DK tank in any situation . DK has enough self defence/healing and provides insane utility with crazy sustain . If you are going to create a character for PvE tanking , go with DK .

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

serenity_painted wrote: »

Maybe i've had bad Templar tanks but from my experience Templar make the worst tanks. They don't have the CC and self sustain of a Sorc or CC and utility of a DK or the damage and sustiain of a NB sap tank. The only thing that i see them bring to the table is stamina regen for the dps and group heals, but that's usually covered by the healer.

Maybe a decent Temptank can enlighten me, but i think there are better options unless you really want to play a templar.

I've heal tanked every vet dungeon and half of vdsa. I've also full tanked the normal trials, with more health I could easily do the vet versions but like I've said I would have to respec.

I didn't say they couldn't do it, just that they're the worst class for the job in a standard group setup.

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

serenity_painted wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

serenity_painted wrote: »

Maybe i've had bad Templar tanks but from my experience Templar make the worst tanks. They don't have the CC and self sustain of a Sorc or CC and utility of a DK or the damage and sustiain of a NB sap tank. The only thing that i see them bring to the table is stamina regen for the dps and group heals, but that's usually covered by the healer.

Maybe a decent Temptank can enlighten me, but i think there are better options unless you really want to play a templar.

I've heal tanked every vet dungeon and half of vdsa. I've also full tanked the normal trials, with more health I could easily do the vet versions but like I've said I would have to respec.

I didn't say they couldn't do it, just that they're the worst class for the job in a standard group setup.

Really? Templar tank has bonuses to melee blocking, penetrates block, and has a self cleanse. The self cleanse also is a massive aoe snare, its slushy cc but it does exist now. The biggest problem I find with Templar tanking is Stamina recovery vs. other classes, as it is more reliant on shards, repentance etc. It is however not what I'd call the worst. In some cases I can't imagine anything being better. Cleansing that weird bite the big Haj Mota does for instance is easiest when you're the guy being bitten, ie: the Tank.

As a blazing shield tank I'd agree. I've tanked every dungeon/vet mode but ICP. Every gold key, some are more interesting than others but it can be done, easily, most of the time.

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

serenity_painted wrote: »

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

serenity_painted wrote: »

Maybe i've had bad Templar tanks but from my experience Templar make the worst tanks. They don't have the CC and self sustain of a Sorc or CC and utility of a DK or the damage and sustiain of a NB sap tank. The only thing that i see them bring to the table is stamina regen for the dps and group heals, but that's usually covered by the healer.

Maybe a decent Temptank can enlighten me, but i think there are better options unless you really want to play a templar.

I've heal tanked every vet dungeon and half of vdsa. I've also full tanked the normal trials, with more health I could easily do the vet versions but like I've said I would have to respec.

I didn't say they couldn't do it, just that they're the worst class for the job in a standard group setup.

Really? Templar tank has bonuses to melee blocking, penetrates block, and has a self cleanse. The self cleanse also is a massive aoe snare, its slushy cc but it does exist now. The biggest problem I find with Templar tanking is Stamina recovery vs. other classes, as it is more reliant on shards, repentance etc. It is however not what I'd call the worst. In some cases I can't imagine anything being better. Cleansing that weird bite the big Haj Mota does for instance is easiest when you're the guy being bitten, ie: the Tank.

Right bonus to block but that's it and self cleanse in a class line and that's it. Self cleanse can also be bought in the alliance tree and be supplied by the healer or someone else.

Compare that to a DK that has the best group utility out of them all with igneous shield and weapon, chains to group up mobs and talons to CC them(gives every DW dps a 15% damage boost) make every trash pull smoother.

Or Sorcs that are completely self sustaining and immortal only needing assistance from a healer in the most stressful situations thanks to Dark Bargain and Critical Surge, while still being able to provide decent CC and oh *** buttons from Encase and Negate Magic but somewhat lacking in group support beyond CC and Major Sorcery.

And then the NB saptank, highest damage of them all and unparalleled ulti generation making you a warhorn blasting machine while being mostly self reliant when it comes to heals and resources. Only real weakness is the lack of reliable CC and requires help from the rest of the group to keep everything bunched up.

Templars can block a bit more(woopdee doo), clense and provide healing for the group. Most of their utilit is covered by the templar healer making Templar tanks only a good choice compared to the others if: a) You don't have a templar healer b) Don't have a healer at all.

Not saying Templars can't tank or can't do it reasonably well. All i'm saying is compared to what the other classes offer, they're the weakest.

susmitds wrote: »

@dodgehopper_ESO
@WillhelmBlack

Let's compare classes.

DK:

Great CC skills (same as great utility)
Chains (same as great utility)
Easy sustain
Unparalleled survivability (factually incorrect, mitigation is equally achieveable on all classes)
Great utility
DoTs for additional damage
multi-target damage shields (added)

NB:

Excellent mobility
Great DPS (stamina)/Good DPS+Insane Self-heals+Great group-heals(magicka)
Unparalleled sustain
Their Class AoE acts as AoE taunt (all aoes do this, it is not class-specific)
Easy access to Major defenses without wasting a slot (the only way to forego a slot for this is to use Chudan, regardless of class since all classes have access to Major buffs)
Unparalleled ultimate generation
Veil

Sorc:

Great sustain
Good mobility
Good self-heals
Great CC skills Good Utility (renamed for consistency, only missing chains)
Fair survivability (mitigation is equally achieveable on all classes)
Cheapest Ultimate cost
Negate

Templar:

Fairly good healing Strong healing potential
Slightly cheaper ultimate
Good survivability (mitigation is equally achieveable on all classes)
Nova
aoe snare for minor CC + initial taunt mechanic (aoe taunt mechanic available to all classes)
group resource utility
multiple class interrupts/CC/utility

Templar literally brings the lowest amount of bonuses to tanking compared to other classes. The CC+Cleanse is covered by the healer and does not stack.

Revised this list a bit for accuracy. Templars could benefit a great deal from having a built-in resource maintenance buff or skill like other classes have, but aside from that, there isn't really anything keeping them from tanking anything just as well. What matters most is the character behind the tank, not the class.

Half of the pros/cons on this list are only truly applicable to veteran dungeons and some trash pulls in trials. When it comes to tanking bosses, there really aren't many differences between classes. Even in the most challenging boss fights, including those in which utility like chains/talons are needed, they are not usually provided by the tank.