The old weapon swap. Never forget.

Isbilen · October 2016

Remember how much smoother combat felt? Remember how much more fast pace fighting felt? We need this back. Remove the weapon swap cooldown!

Road2insanity777 · October 2016

Lol and go back to guessing which bar we on?

Isbilen · October 2016

Road2insanity777 wrote: »

Lol and go back to guessing which bar we on?

Or you could only press the weapon swap button when you want to switch bars, rather than spamming it. You know, like everybody used to do.

Scamandros · October 2016

Although I am not a fan of most of the animation changes they did, I do appreciate weapon swapping as it is now. Feels snappier and more reliable now

Derra · October 2016

If weaponswap would not cancel instant skills without the skill firing i´d be fine with it. Something about the animations is not right at the moment.

donJay · October 2016

75% of my deaths were due to thinking I was on another bar after wep swapping. Couldn't agree more!

RinaldoGandolphi · October 2016

Isbilen wrote: »

Remember how much smoother combat felt? Remember how much more fast pace fighting felt? We need this back. Remove the weapon swap cooldown!

Ezareth and I both complained on the 1.6 PTS about the Cooldown they added to weapon swapping. Its easy to reproduce, and the reason weapon swapping no longer works somethly is because it won't let you swap for a small period after swapping, and after casting certain skills it prevents you from swapping. This just ruined weapon swapping all together, and forced us to pretty much double bar shields and Bolt Escape because after 1.6 dropped Weapon Swap no longer worked reliably anymore. I really wish they would change it back

HoloYoitsu · October 2016

Oh Akatosh, remembering the days Ezareth and I had Curse on our back bars because wep swap was smooth and reliable enough to weave attacks between.

Lava_Croft · October 2016

Weapon swap number one cause of death if you rely on Resto heals.

MalakithAlamahdi · October 2016

This is why most of my chars have either a shield or heal on the front bar. It's a sad time to be playing eso.

Meilinka · October 2016

Ah yes, weapon swap...if only you were reliable.

Although now I am getting flashbacks to when weapon swap when in sneak would pop you out momentarily. That was fun. *shuffles behind tree to weapon swap*

WillhelmBlack · October 2016

I remember when a lot of things were better!

Anyway, can you make some more humorous YouTube videos please, ESO is getting a bit stale in terms of those.

mchermie · October 2016

Can someone list all the abillities that causes this?

Izaki · October 2016

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Oh Akatosh, remembering the days Ezareth and I had Curse on our back bars because wep swap was smooth and reliable enough to weave attacks between.

Man... Tried out Curse on back bar... In a duel it works almost fine... But thats when you realize how much of a cooldown there is when bar swap...

Lava_Croft · October 2016

ESO: Trying to annoy players since 2014.

Samuel_Bantien · October 2016

Isbilen wrote: »

Remember how much smoother combat felt? Remember how much more fast pace fighting felt? We need this back. Remove the weapon swap cooldown!

On top of being able to weapon swap reliably, I remember not being hard CC'd (Javelin'd, Spear Sharded, Crystal Fragged, Incapitating Striked, etc.) when swapping weapons.

Magus · October 2016

Samuel_Bantien wrote: »

Isbilen wrote: »

Remember how much smoother combat felt? Remember how much more fast pace fighting felt? We need this back. Remove the weapon swap cooldown!

On top of being able to weapon swap reliably, I remember not being hard CC'd (Javelin'd, Spear Sharded, Crystal Fragged, Incapitating Striked, etc.) when swapping weapons.

It's worse than that too. Your weapon swap can be interrupted by venom arrow/deep breath/crushing shock. So, it's already clunky with a cooldown and if gets interrupted, you won't weapon swap. So it's almost a RNG if you will end up on the right bar that you intend to be on.

Beardimus · October 2016

Hate bar swapping on Xbox, just can't be trusted. So unreliable

outsideworld76 · October 2016

Eso lottery.

Sugaroverdose · October 2016

@ZOS_BrianWheeler @Wrobel any chance that someone of you will think about players and will reintroduce WORKING wepswap at least in PvP?(Free Advice Here: Make it client-side only, and only as option)

It's going to be ridiculous to not actually wepswap for 3 second even if it's the only button which actually player press.

PS: it's rhetorical question, everyone knows that you will not fix this, nor respond in this thread.

Road2insanity777 wrote: »

Lol and go back to guessing which bar we on?

Install add-on with personal colldown if you wish so.

Manoekin · October 2016

I remember a meeting in which the best idea for this I have heard of was brought up. One of the devs mentioned they wanted to add a slider to the UI options, allowing players to choose for themselves how much of a cooldown they wanted on it. That probably got buried somewhere along the line, and I've been disappointed ever since.

HoloYoitsu · October 2016

Manoekin wrote: »

I remember a meeting in which the best idea for this I have heard of was brought up. One of the devs mentioned they wanted to add a slider to the UI options, allowing players to choose for themselves how much of a cooldown they wanted on it. That probably got buried somewhere along the line, and I've been disappointed ever since.

Mano, we don't want players to even have to memorize what their skills do, and here you are wanting them to have to learn the nuances of wep swap cooldowns?

Lava_Croft · October 2016

Next update will feature gear that will proc weapon swap.

HoloYoitsu · October 2016

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Next update will feature gear that will proc weapon swap.

Why not just auto proc my buff abilities from my back bar for me without having to swap? I'm not sure I want to memorize what the wep swap button does.

Minalan · October 2016

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Isbilen wrote: »

Remember how much smoother combat felt? Remember how much more fast pace fighting felt? We need this back. Remove the weapon swap cooldown!

Ezareth and I both complained on the 1.6 PTS about the Cooldown they added to weapon swapping. Its easy to reproduce, and the reason weapon swapping no longer works somethly is because it won't let you swap for a small period after swapping, and after casting certain skills it prevents you from swapping. This just ruined weapon swapping all together, and forced us to pretty much double bar shields and Bolt Escape because after 1.6 dropped Weapon Swap no longer worked reliably anymore. I really wish they would change it back

Pretty much this. So much wasted bar space because the swap triggers almost randomly sometimes.

Sometimes it's obviously the lag, others you KNOW you just swapped but it didn't register.

Sugaroverdose · October 2016

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Next update will feature gear that will proc weapon swap.

LMAO
It should definitely be named "Wrobel's favour"

Isbilen · October 2016

Manoekin wrote: »

I remember a meeting in which the best idea for this I have heard of was brought up. One of the devs mentioned they wanted to add a slider to the UI options, allowing players to choose for themselves how much of a cooldown they wanted on it. That probably got buried somewhere along the line, and I've been disappointed ever since.

Wow, that's a brilliant solution. This needs to happen!

God_flakes · October 2016

Lava_Croft wrote: »

Weapon swap number one cause of death if you rely on Resto heals.

I've become conditioned to wepswap not working to save me and rely solely on heal pots for healing. I have a Resto I rarely use for heals because it's so unreliable and unresponsive in a fight. Add this to the long laundry list of things that have gotten hosed in this game. Makes me so sad to think of the potential this game once had.

danno8 · October 2016

Strange. Am I the only one who remembers bar swapping being totally unresponsive and as a result you would think you didn't swap and hit the swap button a second time only for the bars to double-swap on you and you are back to where you started, repeat ad nauseum?

I would love for everything to work perfectly but it sounds like you want to trade one problem for another more annoying problem.

Moltyr · October 2016

donJay wrote: »

75% of my deaths were due to thinking I was on another bar after wep swapping. Couldn't agree more!

Can't tell you how many times I've done that! Haha, especially in vMA after changing from one class to another. It does take some time to "know" when you're on a specific bar without looking (for me).

Talcyndl · October 2016

danno8 wrote: »

Strange. Am I the only one who remembers bar swapping being totally unresponsive and as a result you would think you didn't swap and hit the swap button a second time only for the bars to double-swap on you and you are back to where you started, repeat ad nauseum?

This.

I honestly thought this was a flashback thread talking about how screwed up weapon swap was 'back in the day.'