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Bashing resurrections should be free, or have a reduced cost
Alucardo
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Situation: I'm in Bruma taking the flags to do some shopping and I'm overrun with 7 or so EP. I kill their healer and 2 of them are trying to res her while I'm fighting everybody else. The second I bash they just start trying to resurrect her again and again until I'm completely out of stamina. I'm magicka btw, so this was extremely expensive.
I'm sick of death of trying to stop people from doing this when I'm already outnumbered. I wouldn't mind so much if bashing attempted resurrections was cheaper, or even free.
It's times like this I was a DK. Deep breath 4 life.
I'm sick of death of trying to stop people from doing this when I'm already outnumbered. I wouldn't mind so much if bashing attempted resurrections was cheaper, or even free.
It's times like this I was a DK. Deep breath 4 life.
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ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Maybe reduced cost when you interrupt an enemy. Simply reduced cost just gives rise to bash spamming builds... again.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Maybe reduced cost when you interrupt an enemy. Simply reduced cost just gives rise to bash spamming builds... again.
True enough. But the reduced cost would only work when someone is trying to resurrect, they won't be able to spam it until somebody dies like you used to be able to do xD2 -
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✭And no one thought to say 1 v 7 and you expected to win? What kinda of balance would that bring to the game if you want to be able do what you are asking for. Ha ha really is the gimme generation or what?
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Chuga_Rei✭✭✭✭✭True enough. But the reduced cost would only work when someone is trying to resurrect, they won't be able to spam it until somebody dies like you used to be able to do xD
Maybe instead put a penalty on the person being rezzed, "interrupted soul summons cannot be resurrected for 10 seconds" while someone restarts to the ritual or whatever RP stuff you want to insertMAIN: Subtomik |DC| Templar| Grand Overlord| Magicka since release(GET RID OF RD and give me back blinding flashes!)
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Anazasi✭✭✭✭✭
✭True enough. But the reduced cost would only work when someone is trying to resurrect, they won't be able to spam it until somebody dies like you used to be able to do xD
Maybe instead put a penalty on the person being rezzed, "interrupted soul summons cannot be resurrected for 10 seconds" while someone restarts to the ritual or whatever RP stuff you want to insert
leave it alone it works fine as is. They have already nerfed rezzing and added respawn timers to camps. good lord will no one ever be happy with the way it is.
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✭✭✭✭No sorry OP, that definitely is a sucky situation to be in, but it's a normal symptom of being outnumbered.
WTB rez sickness mechanic.0 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭The interrupt code probably doesn't distinguish what you are interrupting. It probably just knows that you interrupted something and doesn't care what you interrupted. In other words, it probably isn't coded to know the difference between interrupting a dark flare or interrupting a ress. However, I would still be okay with this idea if they could make it happen.Edited by timidobserver on October 2, 2016 11:04PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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Ackwalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You do realize that bash would also work against you. So instead on taking out multiple opponents, one of them would bash you and then just kill you while you are stunned or unable to cast for a longer period of time.1 -
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✭I would suggest not standing around bashing until you run out of stamina and die. Your strategy seems counter intuitive.PC/NA - Nightfighters, Raid Leader and Officer
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Alucardo✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Drummerx04 wrote: »I would suggest not standing around bashing until you run out of stamina and die. Your strategy seems counter intuitive.
In hindsight it wasn't the wisest of strategies. But do you have any idea how annoying it is when people res right in front of your face when you're already outnumbered?
Probably worse than the 2v8 this morning with EP and they started sieging us mid fight. I'm starting to see a pattern here with EP..1 -
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Bruh, complaining about not being able to stop ppl from rezzing after you already killed them. I ain't one to judge and all but.....Drummerx04 wrote: »I would suggest not standing around bashing until you run out of stamina and die. Your strategy seems counter intuitive.
In hindsight it wasn't the wisest of strategies. But do you have any idea how annoying it is when people res right in front of your face when you're already outnumbered?
Meanwhile on my mag DK:Eric Wrobel wrote:We want to make DK's have a unique playstyle that does not include an execute ability.
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✭✭✭✭✭Bash in general should be free (bash not breakfree) but also deal no dmg.
Would have the added benefit of nerfing the sword and board but i´m a dd anyway meta.<Noricum>
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✭And no one thought to say 1 v 7 and you expected to win? What kinda of balance would that bring to the game if you want to be able do what you are asking for. Ha ha really is the gimme generation or what?
If the 7 people are bad enough... why not?
Losing a fight because people are ressing faster than you can interrupt all of them is barely even PvP anymore.Edited by Valencer on October 3, 2016 11:11AM5 -
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If i remember it right, explosive charge also interrupts everyone in 5m radius around target.Situation: I'm in Bruma taking the flags to do some shopping and I'm overrun with 7 or so EP. I kill their healer and 2 of them are trying to res her while I'm fighting everybody else. The second I bash they just start trying to resurrect her again and again until I'm completely out of stamina. I'm magicka btw, so this was extremely expensive.
I'm sick of death of trying to stop people from doing this when I'm already outnumbered. I wouldn't mind so much if bashing attempted resurrections was cheaper, or even free.
It's times like this I was a DK. Deep breath 4 life.0 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Sugaroverdose wrote: »
If i remember it right, explosive charge also interrupts everyone in 5m radius around target.Situation: I'm in Bruma taking the flags to do some shopping and I'm overrun with 7 or so EP. I kill their healer and 2 of them are trying to res her while I'm fighting everybody else. The second I bash they just start trying to resurrect her again and again until I'm completely out of stamina. I'm magicka btw, so this was extremely expensive.
I'm sick of death of trying to stop people from doing this when I'm already outnumbered. I wouldn't mind so much if bashing attempted resurrections was cheaper, or even free.
It's times like this I was a DK. Deep breath 4 life.
You remember wrong.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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✭Yeah, a successfully bashed resurrection should return the stamina cost. Having to bash 10 resurects in a 1vX situation drains the stam pool, and is a death sentence from magika users, sometimes you have to ignore people res'ing because you will run out of stam and die if you get CC'ed after the interrupt.1 -
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✭✭✭Mag DK, WTS escort services.
I will shadow you while you 1vX and come out only to spam deep breath on the corpses of your enemies.
Full escort package incures additional fees.10 -
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✭✭✭✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »Mag DK, WTS escort services.
I will shadow you while you 1vX and come out only to spam deep breath on the corpses of your enemies.
Full escort package incures additional fees.
I'd like to purchase the Deep Breath Plus package, please. Does that come with the occasional standard of might, or do you charge extra?0 -
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That depends, I only offer banners for ERP. So if you don't want to Press E to talk to Banner, then I must decline.HoloYoitsu wrote: »Mag DK, WTS escort services.
I will shadow you while you 1vX and come out only to spam deep breath on the corpses of your enemies.
Full escort package incures additional fees.
I'd like to purchase the Deep Breath Plus package, please. Does that come with the occasional standard of might, or do you charge extra?1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »
That depends, I only offer banners for ERP. So if you don't want to Press E to talk to Banner, then I must decline.HoloYoitsu wrote: »Mag DK, WTS escort services.
I will shadow you while you 1vX and come out only to spam deep breath on the corpses of your enemies.
Full escort package incures additional fees.
I'd like to purchase the Deep Breath Plus package, please. Does that come with the occasional standard of might, or do you charge extra?
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JDar✭✭✭✭✭Eric Wrobel wrote:We want to make DK's have a unique playstyle that does not include an execute ability.
This is actually extremely smart of Wrobel, and is a good example of why I am not one of his many haters.
If people on this board had their way every class would be the same.
People say stuff like "uh..w-wel muh class doesn't have a 4 second CC like Aspect of Terror!!! Sorcs should have that too, nightblades are OP!"
This is obviously a shortcut to achieving true balance that the ESO combat team has done an admirable job of avoiding.
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✭Eric Wrobel wrote:We want to make DK's have a unique playstyle that does not include an execute ability.
This is actually extremely smart of Wrobel, and is a good example of why I am not one of his many haters.
If people on this board had their way every class would be the same.
People say stuff like "uh..w-wel muh class doesn't have a 4 second CC like Aspect of Terror!!! Sorcs should have that too, nightblades are OP!"
This is obviously a shortcut to achieving true balance that the ESO combat team has done an admirable job of avoiding.
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Meanwhile every stam build ever has access to reverse slice and the dual wield execute range bonus dmg. As well as tons of dots.Eric Wrobel wrote:We want to make DK's have a unique playstyle that does not include an execute ability.
This is actually extremely smart of Wrobel, and is a good example of why I am not one of his many haters.
If people on this board had their way every class would be the same.
People say stuff like "uh..w-wel muh class doesn't have a 4 second CC like Aspect of Terror!!! Sorcs should have that too, nightblades are OP!"
This is obviously a shortcut to achieving true balance that the ESO combat team has done an admirable job of avoiding.
Edit: feels image removed
Wrobel said he wants mag DK focused on dots for dmg instead, but the current state of those dots just doesn't match up at all to being anything comparable.6 -
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✭✭Eric Wrobel wrote:We want to make DK's have a unique playstyle that does not include an execute ability.
This is actually extremely smart of Wrobel, and is a good example of why I am not one of his many haters.
If people on this board had their way every class would be the same.
People say stuff like "uh..w-wel muh class doesn't have a 4 second CC like Aspect of Terror!!! Sorcs should have that too, nightblades are OP!"
This is obviously a shortcut to achieving true balance that the ESO combat team has done an admirable job of avoiding.
Edit: feels image removed
They didn't avoid... they put in an ability functioning as execute and nerfed it later.DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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GloryClass RepresentativeEric Wrobel wrote:We want to make DK's have a unique playstyle that does not include an execute ability.
This is actually extremely smart of Wrobel, and is a good example of why I am not one of his many haters.
If people on this board had their way every class would be the same.
People say stuff like "uh..w-wel muh class doesn't have a 4 second CC like Aspect of Terror!!! Sorcs should have that too, nightblades are OP!"
This is obviously a shortcut to achieving true balance that the ESO combat team has done an admirable job of avoiding.
Edit: feels image removed
They didn't avoid... they put in an ability functioning as execute and nerfed it later.
*removed its execute component entirelymDK will rise again.
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