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VMA Question
I am currently a 306 Stam Nightblade. 5 VO, 3 Agility, 3 Endurance, Kena Shoulders, Infused Health monster Head. I gave up the other night at the Ice Flow boss. My question is, is it worth it for me to respec to Magika? I just want the path of least resistance for completing VMA. I have 4 of the Aether(?) pieces from trials, should I try to get one more for the 5 piece? I dont know anything about Magika NBs. If that is not recommended what should I go for? Also could someone reply or link me to a solid Magika Nightblade VMS Skill load out? Thanks for any reply guys.
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✭Unless you have played a Magicka Nightblade before, you will need to learn the class entirely before walking into vMA. Or else it will be even harder than it is on your Stamblade.@Mic1007
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Fignutz821✭✭✭Magicka nightblade is these easiest class to do it on, only class that may be easier is magicka sorcCR 561+
LV 50 Nord Dk tank/stam DPS (stormproof)
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Tactical32✭✭✭Fignutz821 wrote: »Magicka nightblade is these easiest class to do it on, only class that may be easier is magicka sorc
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Tactical32 wrote: »Fignutz821 wrote: »Magicka nightblade is these easiest class to do it on, only class that may be easier is magicka sorc
*cough*stam sorc*cough*
I thought about leveling a sorc up just for VMA, but I found it way to boring to level him up.0 -
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✭✭Round 5 for 300cp stam is amazing.
Game really starts to feel different around 400cp.
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✭✭Tactical32 wrote: »Fignutz821 wrote: »Magicka nightblade is these easiest class to do it on, only class that may be easier is magicka sorc
*cough*stam sorc*cough*
No no no no, stamina classes are all much harder than magicka at first. Once you get used to the arena, everything is easy.@ Izaki #PCEU
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✭✭MushmouthThomas wrote: »
Now don't tell me that you'll get your rotation down and will be able to execute it without a flaw in 2 days, cause that just doesn't happen. Why does everyone neglect the important aspect of being a DPS? The rotation matters more than your gear. Although, magicka night blades are in VMA, its still a brand new class, with brand new skills and brand new mechanics. Look at stam DK rotation. Its the hardest one to learn out there.
Also how do you run 3 endurance and 3 agility at the same time?
Your gear is kind of a mess. Go with 5 VO + 5 NMG/5 Red Mountain + 2 Velidreth
If you don't have VO rings (which is what I'm assuming as you're running Agility and Endurance) just run agility jewelry instead and use 2 leek's daggers.
Lastly, gear and CP allocation is far from being the most important. Get used to the mechanics first.@ Izaki #PCEU
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Tactical32✭✭✭IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »Tactical32 wrote: »Fignutz821 wrote: »Magicka nightblade is these easiest class to do it on, only class that may be easier is magicka sorc
*cough*stam sorc*cough*
No no no no, stamina classes are all much harder than magicka at first. Once you get used to the arena, everything is easy.
Na. Stam sorc heals like a magicka nightblade and hits twice as hard.5 -
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✭✭Tactical32 wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »Tactical32 wrote: »Fignutz821 wrote: »Magicka nightblade is these easiest class to do it on, only class that may be easier is magicka sorc
*cough*stam sorc*cough*
No no no no, stamina classes are all much harder than magicka at first. Once you get used to the arena, everything is easy.
Na. Stam sorc heals like a magicka nightblade and hits twice as hard.
If you don't know how to play magicka NB that would be true I guess. All classes have pretty much the same speed in vMA.
For a fact, I completed vMA on 3 magicka characters. First time taking a stamina DK was hell. First time taking a stamina sorcerer was hell too. You actually have to run barrier in case you get hit by poison plants in stage 7. You don't get out of jail for free when you have a crem guard in front of you who just stunned you with his heavy attack and then breathes fire on you. Don't know what world you live in, but stamina is much harder to play well than magicka. Except for PvP that is.
Edited by Izaki on October 2, 2016 12:26AM@ Izaki #PCEU
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Tactical32✭✭✭I'm currently running it on a magicka nightblade. It's the ONLY class I've completed maelstrom on. Took my stam sorc in there for the first time the other day. With an absolute garbage rotation, as I just switched that soccer from magicka to stam, I one shot my way to the round 5 boss.
It's not even close in my opinion. I just suck with my stam sorc at the moment.
Edit: You don't have to run barrier for poison stage. Harness magicka works just as well.
Edited by Tactical32 on October 2, 2016 12:42AM0 -
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✭IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »Tactical32 wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »Tactical32 wrote: »Fignutz821 wrote: »Magicka nightblade is these easiest class to do it on, only class that may be easier is magicka sorc
*cough*stam sorc*cough*
No no no no, stamina classes are all much harder than magicka at first. Once you get used to the arena, everything is easy.
Na. Stam sorc heals like a magicka nightblade and hits twice as hard.
If you don't know how to play magicka NB that would be true I guess. All classes have pretty much the same speed in vMA.
For a fact, I completed vMA on 3 magicka characters. First time taking a stamina DK was hell. First time taking a stamina sorcerer was hell too. You actually have to run barrier in case you get hit by poison plants in stage 7. You don't get out of jail for free when you have a crem guard in front of you who just stunned you with his heavy attack and then breathes fire on you. Don't know what world you live in, but stamina is much harder to play well than magicka. Except for PvP that is.
Or just maybe everybody plays differently. What is easy for one may be hard for another, and vice versa.0 -
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✭✭Tactical32 wrote: »I'm currently running it on a magicka nightblade. It's the ONLY class I've completed maelstrom on. Took my stam sorc in there for the first time the other day. With an absolute garbage rotation, as I just switched that soccer from magicka to stam, I one shot my way to the round 5 boss.
It's not even close in my opinion. I just suck with my stam sorc at the moment.
Edit: You don't have to run barrier for poison stage. Harness magicka works just as well.
Harness magicka to absorb 2k damage while the poison does 4k+ per second? Really? Need to see that
IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »Tactical32 wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »Tactical32 wrote: »Fignutz821 wrote: »Magicka nightblade is these easiest class to do it on, only class that may be easier is magicka sorc
*cough*stam sorc*cough*
No no no no, stamina classes are all much harder than magicka at first. Once you get used to the arena, everything is easy.
Na. Stam sorc heals like a magicka nightblade and hits twice as hard.
If you don't know how to play magicka NB that would be true I guess. All classes have pretty much the same speed in vMA.
For a fact, I completed vMA on 3 magicka characters. First time taking a stamina DK was hell. First time taking a stamina sorcerer was hell too. You actually have to run barrier in case you get hit by poison plants in stage 7. You don't get out of jail for free when you have a crem guard in front of you who just stunned you with his heavy attack and then breathes fire on you. Don't know what world you live in, but stamina is much harder to play well than magicka. Except for PvP that is.
Or just maybe everybody plays differently. What is easy for one may be hard for another, and vice versa.
You're most likely right!@ Izaki #PCEU
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Tactical32✭✭✭IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »Tactical32 wrote: »I'm currently running it on a magicka nightblade. It's the ONLY class I've completed maelstrom on. Took my stam sorc in there for the first time the other day. With an absolute garbage rotation, as I just switched that soccer from magicka to stam, I one shot my way to the round 5 boss.
It's not even close in my opinion. I just suck with my stam sorc at the moment.
Edit: You don't have to run barrier for poison stage. Harness magicka works just as well.
Harness magicka to absorb 2k damage while the poison does 4k+ per second? Really? Need to see thatIzakiBrotheSs wrote: »Tactical32 wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »Tactical32 wrote: »Fignutz821 wrote: »Magicka nightblade is these easiest class to do it on, only class that may be easier is magicka sorc
*cough*stam sorc*cough*
No no no no, stamina classes are all much harder than magicka at first. Once you get used to the arena, everything is easy.
Na. Stam sorc heals like a magicka nightblade and hits twice as hard.
If you don't know how to play magicka NB that would be true I guess. All classes have pretty much the same speed in vMA.
For a fact, I completed vMA on 3 magicka characters. First time taking a stamina DK was hell. First time taking a stamina sorcerer was hell too. You actually have to run barrier in case you get hit by poison plants in stage 7. You don't get out of jail for free when you have a crem guard in front of you who just stunned you with his heavy attack and then breathes fire on you. Don't know what world you live in, but stamina is much harder to play well than magicka. Except for PvP that is.
Or just maybe everybody plays differently. What is easy for one may be hard for another, and vice versa.
You're most likely right!
2k damage? Lol have u never looked at harness tool tip? I literally use this EVERY run. Literally. Spam it twice, maybe 3x while moving to the cleansing pool, never even take any damage lol. Literally used this on every one of my clears.0 -
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✭Tactical32 wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »Tactical32 wrote: »I'm currently running it on a magicka nightblade. It's the ONLY class I've completed maelstrom on. Took my stam sorc in there for the first time the other day. With an absolute garbage rotation, as I just switched that soccer from magicka to stam, I one shot my way to the round 5 boss.
It's not even close in my opinion. I just suck with my stam sorc at the moment.
Edit: You don't have to run barrier for poison stage. Harness magicka works just as well.
Harness magicka to absorb 2k damage while the poison does 4k+ per second? Really? Need to see thatIzakiBrotheSs wrote: »Tactical32 wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »Tactical32 wrote: »Fignutz821 wrote: »Magicka nightblade is these easiest class to do it on, only class that may be easier is magicka sorc
*cough*stam sorc*cough*
No no no no, stamina classes are all much harder than magicka at first. Once you get used to the arena, everything is easy.
Na. Stam sorc heals like a magicka nightblade and hits twice as hard.
If you don't know how to play magicka NB that would be true I guess. All classes have pretty much the same speed in vMA.
For a fact, I completed vMA on 3 magicka characters. First time taking a stamina DK was hell. First time taking a stamina sorcerer was hell too. You actually have to run barrier in case you get hit by poison plants in stage 7. You don't get out of jail for free when you have a crem guard in front of you who just stunned you with his heavy attack and then breathes fire on you. Don't know what world you live in, but stamina is much harder to play well than magicka. Except for PvP that is.
Or just maybe everybody plays differently. What is easy for one may be hard for another, and vice versa.
You're most likely right!
2k damage? Lol have u never looked at harness tool tip? I literally use this EVERY run. Literally. Spam it twice, maybe 3x while moving to the cleansing pool, never even take any damage lol. Literally used this on every one of my clears.
You use harness on a Stan character really seem like a waste of a slot.1 -
Tactical32✭✭✭It's just there in case I need to eat the damage on the way to the cleansing pools. And like I said, admittedly I'm Not good on my stam sorc in vma. This is merely testing the waters with it. I run it on my magblade for completions.
That is how I know a Stam sorc in the right hands > magblade.
Magblade are nice but you have to sustain and survive longer because they don't have the burn the stam sorc does. With the same healing power basically...... Stam sorcEdited by Tactical32 on October 2, 2016 4:42AM0 -
serenity_painted✭✭✭IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »Tactical32 wrote: »IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »Tactical32 wrote: »Fignutz821 wrote: »Magicka nightblade is these easiest class to do it on, only class that may be easier is magicka sorc
*cough*stam sorc*cough*
No no no no, stamina classes are all much harder than magicka at first. Once you get used to the arena, everything is easy.
Na. Stam sorc heals like a magicka nightblade and hits twice as hard.
If you don't know how to play magicka NB that would be true I guess. All classes have pretty much the same speed in vMA.
For a fact, I completed vMA on 3 magicka characters. First time taking a stamina DK was hell. First time taking a stamina sorcerer was hell too. You actually have to run barrier in case you get hit by poison plants in stage 7. You don't get out of jail for free when you have a crem guard in front of you who just stunned you with his heavy attack and then breathes fire on you. Don't know what world you live in, but stamina is much harder to play well than magicka. Except for PvP that is.
Or just maybe everybody plays differently. What is easy for one may be hard for another, and vice versa.
This. I farm it on my stam sorc with relative ease and can't even get past stage 6 with my Magplar, it's like i'm running it for the first time ever again but it's harder. The lack of dodges, lack of speed and most importantly the huge drop in damage is murder for me. Not to derail the thread but if anyone has any tips on how not to be *** with a magplar i'm all ears.
So to awnser OP, if i were you i'd stay stam if you,like me rely heavily on dodging. Maybe sacrifice some sustain damage abileties like trap for more defense like Blur, getting 20% dodge and a big resistance boost should help those vigor ticks.
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IzakiBrotheSs wrote: »MushmouthThomas wrote: »
Now don't tell me that you'll get your rotation down and will be able to execute it without a flaw in 2 days, cause that just doesn't happen. Why does everyone neglect the important aspect of being a DPS? The rotation matters more than your gear. Although, magicka night blades are in VMA, its still a brand new class, with brand new skills and brand new mechanics. Look at stam DK rotation. Its the hardest one to learn out there.
Also how do you run 3 endurance and 3 agility at the same time?
Your gear is kind of a mess. Go with 5 VO + 5 NMG/5 Red Mountain + 2 Velidreth
If you don't have VO rings (which is what I'm assuming as you're running Agility and Endurance) just run agility jewelry instead and use 2 leek's daggers.
Lastly, gear and CP allocation is far from being the most important. Get used to the mechanics first.
You are right, its only 2 Endurance not 3. I do not have VO Jewelry so I can not run 2 5 piece sets. I also mistakenly golded out my 2 weapons I have now, 1 agility and 1 endurance. I can not afford to buy 2 leki daggers and turn them gold. I also do not have the Velidreth helm yet.
I am thinking I just wait till Tamriel One comes out and get the new DPS monster set, maybe farm something to go with VO and by that time have 30 or so more levels.0 -
Junipus✭✭✭✭✭Magicka nightblade is the easiest class to do it on and still make mistakes.
Have completed it on mine a few times and still can't do over 12k dps most of the time (damn funnel weave), yet stacking HoTs and with dampen magic spam I can easily do every stage bar 5 and 7 even when knocked down, knocked back or missing a platform on stage 5.The Legendary Nothing0 -
Martol✭✭✭I myself wanted to complete vMA i had a stamblade, i grinded a new Magblade, and I got it eventually. i can bang out 450k scores after my 10th run now. If you think you should do it, i would make a new character not respec your stamblade. (it took me like 24 hrs in vma the first time so dont worry) I used 5TBS and 4torugs when i first got it.i jest wanna git gud ;_;0