Tank pve sets

BoiledEgg · September 2016

Hi, I need some help figuring out what sets to use for my stam tank which I'm gonna use only for dungeons.
I was thinking to use 2 pcs blood spawn and 5 pcs hist bark but I have no idea what set to use for jewelry and sword and shield, any suggestions ?

akl77 · September 2016

I use 5 piece footman, that covers 3 jewellery, I buy them from guild stores, weyrest got lots.
I have armor master 5 piece, crafted set.
Then you can have a monster helmet, either blood spawn or engine guardian if you're short on resources.

Sythen88411 · September 2016

Go 5 tavas crafted 5 dragon comes in ring and neck and 2 bloodspawn. You will pop ults all the time.

bebynnag · September 2016

shield & 1 hand are harder to aquire from drop sets (because you need both of 2 in your prefered trait) so finding a belt, or chest for example in your prefered trait will be quicker

whichever set you choose to run, i advise getting your drop set 1st, and then crafting your armour around it, to make it easier/quicker to gear up.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · September 2016

Sythen88411 wrote: »

Go 5 tavas crafted 5 dragon comes in ring and neck and 2 bloodspawn. You will pop ults all the time.

This is the only right answer.

Get the rings and neck for dragon and then one armor piece. Then get defending dragon weapons and make the shields nirn. Nirn is best on Shields as it will give you like 40 more armor then reinforced.

SienneYviete · September 2016

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Sythen88411 wrote: »

Go 5 tavas crafted 5 dragon comes in ring and neck and 2 bloodspawn. You will pop ults all the time.

This is the only right answer.

Get the rings and neck for dragon and then one armor piece. Then get defending dragon weapons and make the shields nirn. Nirn is best on Shields as it will give you like 40 more armor then reinforced.

Umm not really, ulti gen is already extremely good with just bloodspawn and tava on a dk especiialy, the dragon gear really is unnecesary. IMO 5 x tava 2 x bloodspawn 5 x alkosh is bis for a pve tank as this gives your tank the ability to keep a significant armor and spell resist debuff on mobs and bosses whenever they hit a synergy and you can still warhorn for days.

BoiledEgg · September 2016

Thanks for all the replies, so tava's is better than hist bark ? And does dragon jewelry only drop in gold quality? Because is kinda expensive xD

Vangy · September 2016

Well im a main tank for some of my guilds for trials and stuff,

I run;

2 bloodspawn (helm/shoulder) 1 medium/1 light.
5 Tavas (body) all reinforced and heavy
3 potentates (accessories)
1 Master's sword + 1 fasallas shield (shield can be anything cos its an open set item) x 2 on both bars. Decisive on main bar sword and defending on the back bar.

Dragon's is nice but it needs 5 piece to be worth it. Not the best 5 piece bonus as potentates alr gives 10% ult cost reduction at 3 pieces. Masters sword is a game changer. That thing heals for 5.5k crits when u use ur puncture. Turns u into a self-sustain beast. 5 tavas + 2 bloodspawn + 3 potentates provides u with so much ult gen that you can drop warhorns back to back as long as you keep shuffle up 100%. Comboed with master's sword + DK battle roar passive, you get so much sustain and healing that you will nevah die. u will be a big favourite for tank cos you boost group DPS to sky high awesomeness with back to back aggressive warhornz. + with masters sword, 90% of the time, healer can mostly forget about healing you and focus more on DPS or healing the DPS. Very few situations will you need a healer on u full time. Mainly trial stuff like warriors absurd 15k per hit smacks and axes in AA will require a full time healer on u.

The current meta is at a point where a toon that is beefy and holds block is no longer required. In fact most dungeons even dont need a tank. So if you want to be a tank, you need to be more than the age old 5 hist bark 5 footman's punching bag of uselessness. People want you to contribute to the group in a meaningful way. That means not only do you taunt stuff, you CC them and use chains often (if ur a DK) to group stuff up for ez stack n burn. And ZOS has decided that letting tanks generate insane ult is totally okay so why not do that for extra juicyness.

EDIT: ah for random dungeon tanking, any 5 pc heavy crafted set + SnB you will be fine. The bosses there really dont hit hard so you can play even in 5 heavy hundings if u want as long as you can keep ur stamina up to block important hits.

ScottishTornado85 · September 2016

Welcome to tanking!

If you are new to tanking you should start with hist bark, footmans and bloodspawn. This is the most forgiving set up and helps with learning resource management.

In the end you do want to go with tavas. All the sets mentioned before are good, just find what you prefer. I run with dragon and as a vampire, the magika regen is fantastic on a tank, more chains, more shields etc. Ebon has it place in trials and alkosh is a huge support to the group.

Good Luck

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · September 2016

BoiledEgg wrote: »

Thanks for all the replies, so tava's is better than hist bark ? And does dragon jewelry only drop in gold quality? Because is kinda expensive xD

dragons comes in purple, the five piece bonus is the exact same.

SienneYviete wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Sythen88411 wrote: »

Go 5 tavas crafted 5 dragon comes in ring and neck and 2 bloodspawn. You will pop ults all the time.

This is the only right answer.

Get the rings and neck for dragon and then one armor piece. Then get defending dragon weapons and make the shields nirn. Nirn is best on Shields as it will give you like 40 more armor then reinforced.

Umm not really, ulti gen is already extremely good with just bloodspawn and tava on a dk especiialy, the dragon gear really is unnecesary. IMO 5 x tava 2 x bloodspawn 5 x alkosh is bis for a pve tank as this gives your tank the ability to keep a significant armor and spell resist debuff on mobs and bosses whenever they hit a synergy and you can still warhorn for days.

yes alkosh is best but you have to run trials to get it, it is not as easy as dragon to get right now. i was being flippant when i said "This is the only right answer." tanking has the most variation on how to play then the other roles.

Vangy wrote: »

Well im a main tank for some of my guilds for trials and stuff,

I run;

2 bloodspawn (helm/shoulder) 1 medium/1 light.
5 Tavas (body) all reinforced and heavy
3 potentates (accessories)
1 Master's sword + 1 fasallas shield (shield can be anything cos its an open set item) x 2 on both bars. Decisive on main bar sword and defending on the back bar.

Dragon's is nice but it needs 5 piece to be worth it. Not the best 5 piece bonus as potentates alr gives 10% ult cost reduction at 3 pieces. Masters sword is a game changer. That thing heals for 5.5k crits when u use ur puncture. Turns u into a self-sustain beast. 5 tavas + 2 bloodspawn + 3 potentates provides u with so much ult gen that you can drop warhorns back to back as long as you keep shuffle up 100%. Comboed with master's sword + DK battle roar passive, you get so much sustain and healing that you will nevah die.

EDIT: ah for random dungeon tanking, any 5 pc heavy crafted set + SnB you will be fine. The bosses there really dont hit hard so you can play even in 5 heavy hundings if u want as long as you can keep ur stamina up to block important hits.

i agree with everything you said but the 2-3-4 piece for dragons is better then the 3 piece for potentates + what ever 2 piece.

the magic regen is better then stam regen every day of the week on a stam dk tank. plus healing received and more health. VS stam regen and a dead slot. plus you make the shield yourself with nirn and get more armor.

so heavy BS shoulder and head, heavy tavas body, legs, medium gloves, light belt and nirn shield. Then dragon boots, with dragon jewelry, with a dragon weapon on back bar with warhorn, goes from 250 ulti to 213. i do use a master sword on my front bar.

the traits on the armor depend on your cp allocation but general tanking i believe that the small pieces ought to be sturdy and the chest and legs be reinforced with the head wither being infused (especially if you have a tristat glyph on it) or sturdy, as BS doesn't come in nirn, which is better then reinforced on everything but the heavy chest and legs.

BoiledEgg · September 2016

Damn making a tank looks pretty complicated, too many options. Well thanks everyone, very helpfull suggestions.

Vangy · September 2016

BoiledEgg wrote: »

Damn making a tank looks pretty complicated, too many options. Well thanks everyone, very helpfull suggestions.

Don't worry bout it bro. You can see the common denominator is ult Gen for end game. The other specifics are up to you as everyone has their own favourites. The core is just that you need 5 tavas and 2 blood spawn. The rest you can fill by trying it out and seeing what works best for you.

BoiledEgg · September 2016

Ok last question, considering that I want my character to look a certain way (so I'll avoid dropped sets except jewelry) and that I'll tank only dungeons (so nothing too hard) what do you think about this:
2 pcs blood spawn
5 pcs tava
3 pcs potentates (jewelry)
And use sword and shield to get the first bonus of an another set (maybe seducer for extra magicka recovery ?)

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO · September 2016

BoiledEgg wrote: »

Ok last question, considering that I want my character to look a certain way (so I'll avoid dropped sets except jewelry) and that I'll tank only dungeons (so nothing too hard) what do you think about this:
2 pcs blood spawn
5 pcs tava
3 pcs potentates (jewelry)
And use sword and shield to get the first bonus of an another set (maybe seducer for extra magicka recovery ?)

looks fine. but are you really against using a premade 2 piece like agility? it will give significantly more stam. you can put magic regen on your jewelry then. get like 170 more.

BoiledEgg · September 2016

Meh, i would really like to have my sword and shield with a certain style (yeah I'm one of those guys)

Vangy · September 2016

BoiledEgg wrote: »

Ok last question, considering that I want my character to look a certain way (so I'll avoid dropped sets except jewelry) and that I'll tank only dungeons (so nothing too hard) what do you think about this:
2 pcs blood spawn
5 pcs tava
3 pcs potentates (jewelry)
And use sword and shield to get the first bonus of an another set (maybe seducer for extra magicka recovery ?)

Sounds just about perfect. With that set-up, you would be fine to tank even trials. Since your only interested in dungeons, I dont forsee any problems. The only flipside is, Tavas and potentates dosent add any beefy/regen to ur tank. You need to learn to manage your resources as compared to the traditional hist bark/footmans set when tanking difficult content if you should ever choose to participate in trials. But that will come with practice. Good luck!

BoiledEgg · September 2016

Thanks Vangy

nraner81 · September 2016

people talk about not wanting stam regen is true and yet false too.

when you just hold down the block button its called "spam blocking" and im not gonna hate on it as most of us did it when we were learning tank.

That being said when you get comfortable in your rotation and build you can block as needed.
EX: boss hits-light attack/ability-boss ability-heavy attack-boss hits-light/ability and it goes on.
I run red(imo post db best) DK tank and rarely have issues with resource management.
I personally run 32500 both resist always with 5tav 2blood 5footmans(the actual percentage I get is 5ish not the 8) and footmans does help on trials or vwgt/vcos/vicp/vmezz.

That being said I wont run a normal dung or even some easy vet dung(unless we go 3 dps and no healer) with my tank as it is a beefy tank that would just slow down when you don't even need a tank.

sickboy2808 · September 2016

What is the full name of Dragon set and where do you get it??

Liofa · September 2016

sickboy2808 wrote: »

What is the full name of Dragon set and where do you get it??

Akaviri Dragonguard . Drops from Hel Ra Citadel . You can also buy it .

Savos_Saren · September 2016

Here's a few options that I like:

5 Black Rose (infused, prismatic), 5 Akaviri Dragonguard, and 2 Bloodspawn

OR... depending if it's just for small dungeon taking...

5 Akaviri Dragonguard, 5 Hide of the Werewolf (jewelry/sword/shield), 2 Bloodspawn [less tanky, more DPS build here]

I know a lot of people swear by Tava's... but, I just don't like slotting Shuffle on my bar. Just my preference. I like to be as actively DPSing as possible. I also like the healing received that you get from Dragonguard.

For absolutely juicy heals, you can equip 5 Leeching, 5 Akaviri Dragonguard, and 2 Bloodspawn (or Malubeth).

And, as I've been posting, I'm looking forward to trying:

5 Akaviri Dragonguard, 5 Knight's Errant, 1 Master's Sword, 1 Troll King

DHale · September 2016

Wow having tanked every dungeon and normal hel ra, AA an SO, and vDSA in 30 k worth of armor I would say you are talking about million dollar builds to get one alkosh ring is 233 k ATM. You are giving him advise he can't follow for 6 months or more.. if ever. Also these fancy builds are from people who run in solid groups with solid healers not the random and pug groups I run with. I have no reason to run war horn (which I have) by the time they figure out what it is the buff has ended. I am pretty sure I have never run a four person with any healer who ever even heard of spell power cure. I would rather they just heal me.

That said blood spawn, malubeth, even engine guardian is good. You likely don't have cp or a lot of cp. tava will not give you enough mitigation. Armor master or hist bark is better or at least more forgiving for a new tank. More stam and block cost reduction will help you block incoming damage until you have the cp to buff less resistant armor. I use agility jewelry with block cost reduction on all three. Certainly there are a few end game sets that are much better but they are a desired state not ones readily available.

MaxwellC · September 2016

Go 5 piece Ebon and 5 piece lunar bastion; your group will love you to death!

acw37162 · September 2016

If your continually having resource problems 5 Black Rose and a very cheap very effective route for jewelry and weapons is 3 Endurnace 3 Willpower

You can set the weapons and jewelry in such a way you always have he buffs active and almost eevery class has a way to turn magic into stamina.

If you have a set meta group and aggressive warborn;

5 Tavas
5 Dragon or 5 Werewolf Hide (*werewolf hide is a medium set so you would have to use weapons and jewelry and he jewelry comes in robust not healthy so you may need adjust atttibute points or glyphs)
2 Bloodspawn

If your not a Templar you can replace either one of those two sets with Mephalas Hand with gives minor fracture a de-buff only templars can apply and is useful to help kill things quicker.

Baharas Curse is a wonderful tanking set. The jewelry comes in healthy, robust, and arcane so you can swap around what you need for different dungeons.

Hist Bark, Footmans, Armor Master are all great alternatives as is heavy seducer for a magica tank.

With weapons ultimates and how powerful the sale and shield ultimate is you will seriously want to consider the ultimate regen sets as your going to be spamming that off cooldown.

Vangy · September 2016

DHale wrote: »

Wow having tanked every dungeon and normal hel ra, AA an SO, and vDSA in 30 k worth of armor I would say you are talking about million dollar builds to get one alkosh ring is 233 k ATM. You are giving him advise he can't follow for 6 months or more.. if ever. Also these fancy builds are from people who run in solid groups with solid healers not the random and pug groups I run with. I have no reason to run war horn (which I have) by the time they figure out what it is the buff has ended. I am pretty sure I have never run a four person with any healer who ever even heard of spell power cure. I would rather they just heal me.

That said blood spawn, malubeth, even engine guardian is good. You likely don't have cp or a lot of cp. tava will not give you enough mitigation. Armor master or hist bark is better or at least more forgiving for a new tank. More stam and block cost reduction will help you block incoming damage until you have the cp to buff less resistant armor. I use agility jewelry with block cost reduction on all three. Certainly there are a few end game sets that are much better but they are a desired state not ones readily available.

Once u build a decent tank, its pretty easy to make a few good friends since tanks are always in short supply =X. I rmb when I first made a tank people started sending me invites like cookies. Hey u wanna tank again tmr for pledge etc etc. Besides, you dont need an insane meta group to run warhorn lol. You just need average DPS who know the mechanics reasonably well. OP only wants to tank pledges it seems. Armor master and hist bark are totally OVERKILL even at 25k resists and 200 CP. Nothing in pledges hits hard enough to down a toon in 5 heavy armour who is holding block haha.

Excluding alkosh, tavas, potentates etc are all very easily acquirable imo.