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What's better for PVP ...

Jazbay_Grape
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185 additional damage or 4,000 additional penetration?
  • Xvorg
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    185 additional damage or 4,000 additional penetration?

    185 aditional weapon dmg?

    because wpn dmg is not the same than dmg
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  • X3ina
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    Penetration
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  • Izaki
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    Depends on who you're fighting.
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  • Jazbay_Grape
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    I'm deciding between keeping my 3 agility and Lekis or switching to a set that would result in losing the weapon damage from agility in return for 4,000 more penetration.
  • Xvorg
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    I'm deciding between keeping my 3 agility and Lekis or switching to a set that would result in losing the weapon damage from agility in return for 4,000 more penetration.

    penetration... you will never go wrong
    Edited by Xvorg on September 29, 2016 6:48PM
    Sarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly

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    That led to the wrong tendencies
    I was in the wrong place at the wrong time
    For the wrong reason and the wrong rhyme
    On the wrong day of the wrong week
    Used the wrong method with the wrong technique
  • Waffennacht
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    Well the minimum armor another player will have is around 10kish, using a sharpened weapon and this set will drop them down to near zero. Meaning if this all you have, no matter what your opponent is, you'll get the full benefit.

    Add a debuff and you maybe debuffing just a hair over their armor (but only against the weakest of armors)

    I think that 4000 penetration is 6.4ish% more damage. So on a 5k hit, you'll do 300ish more damage. 186 weapon damage may add more damage to an attack. Somewhere around 400ish?

    But im seeing the two are extremely close
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  • Jazbay_Grape
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    Well the minimum armor another player will have is around 10kish, using a sharpened weapon and this set will drop them down to near zero. Meaning if this all you have, no matter what your opponent is, you'll get the full benefit.

    Add a debuff and you maybe debuffing just a hair over their armor (but only against the weakest of armors)

    I think that 4000 penetration is 6.4ish% more damage. So on a 5k hit, you'll do 300ish more damage. 186 weapon damage may add more damage to an attack. Somewhere around 400ish?

    But im seeing the two are extremely close

    Ok, that actually makes sense to me. Thanks!
  • Jazbay_Grape
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    Xvorg wrote: »
    I'm deciding between keeping my 3 agility and Lekis or switching to a set that would result in losing the weapon damage from agility in return for 4,000 more penetration.

    penetration... you will never go wrong

    That's the impression I was getting from reading other things on here too. Thanks!
  • Lexxypwns
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    getting the penetration from sets(and cp/weapon choice) opens up the option to go precise on your weapons and still have near full penetration, which is, imo, better than 186 weapon damage
    Edited by Lexxypwns on September 29, 2016 7:37PM
  • Jazbay_Grape
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    Honestly, its not that the penetration is better, its that getting the penetration from there(and cp/weapon choice) opens up the option to go precise on your weapons and still have near full penetration, which is, imo, better than 186 weapon damage

    I have some penetration from CP, but I use a sharpened maul.
  • Waffennacht
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    Lexxypwns wrote: »
    getting the penetration from sets(and cp/weapon choice) opens up the option to go precise on your weapons and still have near full penetration, which is, imo, better than 186 weapon damage

    I didn't think of that, That is a good way to use the sets...
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    I use Majic so I keep one weapon to reduce majic resistance and the other with more spell power .
  • LegacyDM
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    Xvorg wrote: »
    I'm deciding between keeping my 3 agility and Lekis or switching to a set that would result in losing the weapon damage from agility in return for 4,000 more penetration.

    penetration... you will never go wrong

    Until you stumble across a shield stacker, which is 50% of the players in cyrodil. Penetration does not penetrate shields.

    It's best to take a balanced approach.
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  • Waffennacht
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    LegacyDM wrote: »
    Xvorg wrote: »
    I'm deciding between keeping my 3 agility and Lekis or switching to a set that would result in losing the weapon damage from agility in return for 4,000 more penetration.

    penetration... you will never go wrong

    Until you stumble across a shield stacker, which is 50% of the players in cyrodil. Penetration does not penetrate shields.

    It's best to take a balanced approach.

    But shields have no mitigation, so it's like you're fully penetrating them. They only benefit when dealing with crits, and honestly a 6k heal is better than a 6k shield at full resist.

    So you still don't lose out when using penetration. Not to mention there is no trait or self buff you are trading for the penetration (not a big one, 186 etc weapon damage isn't a major loss by any means)
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  • Rastoric
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    Depends on who you're fighting penetrating.

    Edited by Rastoric on September 30, 2016 2:02AM
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  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Depends on who you're fighting penetrating.

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  • acw37162
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    By yourself or small group the penetration.

    Organized trial group with Night mothers, major and minor fracture, crusher enchant, Alkosh, and Subderflame debuff then the weapon damage actually at this point your prob better off with the critical strike gear that gives plus 100 WD on the five piece.

    There exists no scenario in this game where one setup is always best is slot it all depends on what your running, who your runnibgvit with, and the rest of the setup.
  • Jazbay_Grape
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    acw37162 wrote: »
    By yourself or small group the penetration.

    Organized trial group with Night mothers, major and minor fracture, crusher enchant, Alkosh, and Subderflame debuff then the weapon damage actually at this point your prob better off with the critical strike gear that gives plus 100 WD on the five piece.

    There exists no scenario in this game where one setup is always best is slot it all depends on what your running, who your runnibgvit with, and the rest of the setup.

    I'm always solo and really only play PVP. I'm a stamblade with 5 alchemist, agility all robust with WD enchants, 2 Lekis and 1 Kena.
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