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Thrive on Chaos
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I just want to say thank you for this amazing skill. I haven't been this excited about playing stam for ages:)
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hedna123b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Elaborate, please...
You know how the tooltip states that ithe increases the damage by 5% per target it hits? They dont mean increases the damage of Thrive on Chaos...they mean increases ALL damage
..so works like a mini DK banner.1 -
CasNation✭✭✭✭✭Oh goodie. I was hoping it worked like that. I hadn't had the opportunity to test it. Thanks, Nos!PC NA AD
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✭Oh goodie. I was hoping it worked like that. I hadn't had the opportunity to test it. Thanks, Nos!
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And then we have the destruction staff ultimatehedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
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And then we have the destruction staff ultimatehedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
I have a ton of respect for you brother but the damage in the Destruction Staff Ulti is ridiculously good. The cost I think may eventually need to come down but the damage on this thing is a monster.0 -
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And then we have the destruction staff ultimatehedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
Word....
And then we have the destruction staff ultimatehedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
I have a ton of respect for you brother but the damage in the Destruction Staff Ulti is ridiculously good. The cost I think may eventually need to come down but the damage on this thing is a monster.
Who cares how high the damage is If the cost is also high. The skill does less DPS than shooting star per ulti used. The large area of effect does not matter because we have AoE caps...2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
Wait..... I think my Dual Wield Magicka Sorc might have to replace Dawnbreaker of Smiting next patch!0 -
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✭DarkMatter909 wrote: »What kind of skill is that?
It's a Morph of the Dual Wield ultimate coming out in this upcoming DLC.1 -
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mfw it doesnt compete with shooting star
And then we have the destruction staff ultimatehedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
I have a ton of respect for you brother but the damage in the Destruction Staff Ulti is ridiculously good. The cost I think may eventually need to come down but the damage on this thing is a monster.
Maybe if they lower the cost up the damage a little to be better than meteor or make it act like thrive, I mean, it doesn't compete#MOREORBS0 -
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mfw it doesnt compete with shooting star
And then we have the destruction staff ultimatehedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
I have a ton of respect for you brother but the damage in the Destruction Staff Ulti is ridiculously good. The cost I think may eventually need to come down but the damage on this thing is a monster.
Maybe if they lower the cost up the damage a little to be better than meteor or make it act like thrive, I mean, it doesn't compete
I definitely feel like they could have been more creative with it...maybe have it buff all elemental damage by a certai. percentage point.
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✭✭✭✭hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »I just want to say thank you for this amazing skill. I haven't been this excited about playing stam for ages:)
This skill is going to make for some interesting parses on bosses that regularly summon additional mobs like the last two bosses of vMoL. I expect overall Stam Damage to go up despite the Maelstrom weapon nerf.
And then we have the destruction staff ultimatehedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
I have a ton of respect for you brother but the damage in the Destruction Staff Ulti is ridiculously good. The cost I think may eventually need to come down but the damage on this thing is a monster.
Damage per ultimate spent, shooting star wins. The only time you'd really want to use the destro staff ultimate ultimate is when facing an spread AoE mob that can't be stacked easily like the huge pull before the last boss of Hel-Ra. Even then shooting star would probably be better given the ultimate return.
V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
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V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)0 -
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✭timidobserver wrote: »hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »I just want to say thank you for this amazing skill. I haven't been this excited about playing stam for ages:)
This skill is going to make for some interesting parses on bosses that regularly summon additional mobs like the last two bosses of vMoL. I expect overall Stam Damage to go up despite the Maelstrom weapon nerf.
And then we have the destruction staff ultimatehedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
I have a ton of respect for you brother but the damage in the Destruction Staff Ulti is ridiculously good. The cost I think may eventually need to come down but the damage on this thing is a monster.
Damage per ultimate spent, shooting star wins. The only time you'd really want to use the destro staff ultimate ultimate is when facing an spread AoE mob that can't be stacked easily like the huge pull before the last boss of Hel-Ra. Even then shooting star would probably be better given the ultimate return.
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✭So i'm assuming the general consensus is that this will be worth unslotting dawnbreaker for or is this going to be purely situational in it's usage?Delta
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✭SienneYviete wrote: »So i'm assuming the general consensus is that this will be worth unslotting dawnbreaker for or is this going to be purely situational in it's usage?
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✭✭✭✭✭IMO, it is purely situational. Only worth using on bosses with lots of adds. Otherwise, it is not worth it. The cost is high but lasts only 8 secs. For say, 25% extra damage for 8 secs, you need to hit 5 enemies. Incapacitating Strike can give that for 5 secs for 1/3rd of the cost but still Shooting Star out damages it overall.0 -
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✭IMO, it is purely situational. Only worth using on bosses with lots of adds. Otherwise, it is not worth it. The cost is high but lasts only 8 secs. For say, 25% extra damage for 8 secs, you need to hit 5 enemies. Incapacitating Strike can give that for 5 secs for 1/3rd of the cost but still Shooting Star out damages it overall.
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1. Can be empowered.
2. Increases DPS
3. DoT - Procs monsterr masks
4. Heals
5. AoE
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✭✭✭✭✭hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »IMO, it is purely situational. Only worth using on bosses with lots of adds. Otherwise, it is not worth it. The cost is high but lasts only 8 secs. For say, 25% extra damage for 8 secs, you need to hit 5 enemies. Incapacitating Strike can give that for 5 secs for 1/3rd of the cost but still Shooting Star out damages it overall.
.....no.........
1. Can be empowered.
2. Increases DPS
3. DoT - Procs monsterr masks
4. Heals
5. AoE
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It's not empowered by vMA weapons, tested it. My Incapacitating Strike crits for 20k onwards which is around half of the total damage of the DoT. Stamina already stacks 5+ DoTs most of the time and some of the new sets like Selene requires direct damage. Heals are fine but technically you shouldn't need them with a good healer. Being AoE allows for maximum six targets and you need to hit all six, if you want maximum efficiency, which is only possible in some vet dungeons and vDSA bosses. Most other bosses don't have that many adds.1 -
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✭✭Dual Wield - Thrive in Chao's
Slash all enemies in front of you, dealing 14175 Physical Damage over 8 seconds and healing you for 50% of the damage done. Each enemy hit increases your damage done by 5% for the duration, up to a maximum of 30% more damage done.
Morph Effect: Each enemy hit increases your damage done.- Cast Time: Instant
- Target: Area
- Radius: 7 Meters
- Cost: 150 Ultimate
This ultimate is complete crap against anyone with Purge in PVP. Notice how the Tooltip state's "for the duration". So basically with this Ultimate you want to hit the maximum amount of people, how many of these people do you think will be a Templar with Purge?
So essentially it's useless in PVP.
PVE it's actually very overpowered because it can be Empowered by Maelstrom Daggers. All though i personally think this is an issue and should be fixed by ZOS. The Maelstrom Daggers should not be Empowering any AoE ultimate's DoT's regardless (even if it only effect's one target). The Daggers specifically state Single Target DoT's. I don't even care though since i dont PVE, just my opinion.PS4 NA DC0 -
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✭hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »IMO, it is purely situational. Only worth using on bosses with lots of adds. Otherwise, it is not worth it. The cost is high but lasts only 8 secs. For say, 25% extra damage for 8 secs, you need to hit 5 enemies. Incapacitating Strike can give that for 5 secs for 1/3rd of the cost but still Shooting Star out damages it overall.
.....no.........
1. Can be empowered.
2. Increases DPS
3. DoT - Procs monsterr masks
4. Heals
5. AoE
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It's not empowered by vMA weapons, tested it. My Incapacitating Strike crits for 20k onwards which is around half of the total damage of the DoT. Stamina already stacks 5+ DoTs most of the time and some of the new sets like Selene requires direct damage. Heals are fine but technically you shouldn't need them with a good healer. Being AoE allows for maximum six targets and you need to hit all six, if you want maximum efficiency, which is only possible in some vet dungeons and vDSA bosses. Most other bosses don't have that many adds.
1. It IS empowered by vMA...just retested it to confirm...
2. The DoT by itself can hit for 80k+ damage easily single target...on 5 targets thats 400k+
3. Im planning on wearing Kragh so this set helps with it
4. Heals on HM vMoL are very important...suggesting that a heal on a skill isnt useful is plain wrong.
5. Most fights have plenty adds...
6. Please thoroughly research this skill prior to making analysis statements...1 -
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✭It's better then people give it credit for.
It's not hands down better then everything under sun but it has a place and will be very useful in trials.
Eye of the storm will also perform well in PVP if used correctly or on a Magica based tank carry a destro on the back bar, which dosent make a lot of sense but could.
Per Ulti point spent is a new metric, it does more damage then Shooting Star. Shooting Stars unique ability is the ultimate cost regen from hitting multiple targets by this metric Shooting Star wins against every ultimate in the game except soul harvest.
I don't disagree the cost may need to come down but as for the damage the Destruction Staff Ultimate as it was on test last week was better then meteor.
With all the rage over not getting what people wanted people have crapped all over this ultimate and to some extent they are just plain wrong.
On a straight Damage Build the Destruction Staff Ultinate wins in pure numbers. It's not the single target A majority wanted and it doesn't offer vesatilkty some other Ultimates do but on burn phase this one wins on strictly numbers generated.Edited by acw37162 on September 30, 2016 7:08AM0 -
DarkMatter909✭✭✭hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »DarkMatter909 wrote: »What kind of skill is that?
It's a Morph of the Dual Wield ultimate coming out in this upcoming DLC.
Thank you for the answer. Can't wait to try these when we get them on console.
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✭It's better then people give it credit for.
It's not hands down better then everything under sun but it has a place and will be very useful in trials.
Eye of the storm will also perform well in PVP if used correctly or on a Magica based tank carry a destro on the back bar, which dosent make a lot of sense but could.
Per Ulti point spent is a new metric, it does more damage then Shooting Star. Shooting Stars unique ability is the ultimate cost regen from hitting multiple targets by this metric Shooting Star wins against every ultimate in the game except soul harvest.
I don't disagree the cost may need to come down but as for the damage the Destruction Staff Ultimate as it was on test last week was better then meteor.
With all the rage over not getting what people wanted people have crapped all over this ultimate and to some extent they are just plain wrong.
On a straight Damage Build the Destruction Staff Ultinate wins in pure numbers. It's not the single target A majority wanted and it doesn't offer vesatilkty some other Ultimates do but on burn phase this one wins on strictly numbers generated.
1. The issue is that they didn't have to make it beat shooting star in terms of damage per ulti cost. They just have to have gave it something that would make it preferable. A buff to all elemental damage, a dot that stay on target after the effect ends...etc...they didn't though. They gave us a high cost large area aoe skill while we have aoe caps.
2. The damage is irrelevant because in a trial damage per ulti cost is the only important metric. As you said soul harvest does a lot less damage than shooting star, but when you factor in its cost and buff to damage it is vastly superior to it single target. Since your DPS is literally damage over time the more damage over time you can deal the higher DPS you have, thus making destro staff ulti useless.
3. That's the thing thougb...it doesn't win damage wise...i mean I'm not sure how else to explain it. You have an entire turkey but you have to eat that turkey over 3 weeks. Only in 3 weeks you will get another turkey. If you eat the whole turkey now you will have nothing to eat for 3 weeks till the new one comes in. Or you have a chicken, a chicken is smaller than a turkey, but it comes in every week...obviously the chicken is better..0