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Current PVP state of stamblade

  • Jaronking
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    xskinzcity wrote: »
    acw37162 wrote: »
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    Stam blade is ridicliously good.

    The only people who tell you otherwise are trying their absolute hardest to keep it from the nerf hammer of dreams.

    Really lol? How would you nerf them?


    1. Remove the stun from Incap and raise the raise the ultimate cost.

    That's just for starters.

    Too easy to avoid getting incap'd. Incap is the hardest ultimate to land if you really think about it.
    Nahhh Overload is Harder to land than incap its the only ultimate in the game that you can kill yourself if used against the wrong person.
  • Kram8ion
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    Well I've tested inc strike 50 times 18 hit target 24 were blocked or dodged and the rest just didn't fire
    Op? I think not. Hello dawnbreaker
    Aussie lag is real!
  • thankyourat
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    Kram8ion wrote: »
    Well I've tested inc strike 50 times 18 hit target 24 were blocked or dodged and the rest just didn't fire
    Op? I think not. Hello dawnbreaker

    Lol most people use dbos it's just a better option hits only for a little less but can't be dodged also hits multiple people. open world it's the way to go
  • Kram8ion
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    I get the dodge/ block but not firing ?
    Haven't come across another ult that just doesn't fire ...a lot .
    It's the same buttons
    Aussie lag is real!
  • susmitds
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    Kram8ion wrote: »
    I get the dodge/ block but not firing ?
    Haven't come across another ult that just doesn't fire ...a lot .
    It's the same buttons

    If you move out of range in a certain timespan, then your opponent's Incapacitating Strike simply won't fire sometimes but deplete his ultimate.
    Edited by susmitds on September 25, 2016 3:41AM
  • Kram8ion
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    True
    Aussie lag is real!
  • Shader_Shibes
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    Destyran wrote: »
    Stamblades are in the weakest state since about 2 years or so for the following reasons,

    1. Cloak is practically useless
    2. No major mending or shields or both (hello stam dk's....)
    3. Everyone is wearing heavy
    4. Poisons make 1vx impossible
    5. Good players know how to block, use magelight and cc.

    Only novice players are calling for a nerf because they get hit with Incap Strike wearing no impen and not blocking. Don't listen to these players they don't know what they are doing. Against good players it's a one trick pony that rarely works.

    The only real viable build right now is to spec bow/snipe heavy, which is a lame, go full glass cannon and eat dirt a lot, or be a fear bot.

    For stam class going 1v1 its the worst class right now behind stam sorc, stam dk and stam temp.

    Pretty sure stam nb is tge reason everyones going heavy just sayin.

    Lol, so not because of the armor passives then, just purely because of Stam nb's............OK then >.<
    Edited by Shader_Shibes on September 25, 2016 7:55AM
  • Knootewoot
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    Look man. Stamblades all have the same build(s). They either shoot like cowards from a keep wall with focused aim and poison injection or they dodge roll leaving behind an obvious trap nobody with common sens steps into and/or they use viper so the proc you.

    As a magblade I am far more squishy then those punks, even worse since I am a Vampire.

    Pro-players who play stamblade are really badass and they will be with every (most) class/setup. But 90% of the stamblades stink. If someone pops a detection potion or mage light (or another NB uses mark) they run/dodge roll around like a chicken without a head and they die pretty easy. The pro-players however charge you like there is no tomorrow when they are marked making them even more dangerous and unpredictable.

    Is stamblade OP? Well, they hit like a truck and mostly from stealth. But I don't think they are OP. But that said, their counterpart magblade is more squishy and do not hit like a truck but more like a soapcar made of plywood. If magicka was pumped up a bit there would not be a cry for nerf and I think the majority would be happy.

    (of course I could be wrong because i'm just one minor vocal of thousands of players)

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    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
  • PurifedBladez
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    acw37162 wrote: »
    acw37162 wrote: »
    Stam blade is ridicliously good.

    The only people who tell you otherwise are trying their absolute hardest to keep it from the nerf hammer of dreams.

    Really lol? How would you nerf them?


    1. Remove the stun from Incap and raise the raise the ultimate cost.

    That's just for starters.

    I wouldn't care. If that would satisfy the flock then whatever. I'll just run dbos.

    What else?
  • Lava_Croft
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Best for ganking.
    3rd for solo roaming and scouting. (Behind magicka nightblades and stamina sorcerers)
    5th for open world fighting. (Behind other the stamina variants and magicka templar)
    7/8th for dueling. (Last along with magicka nightblades)
    Solo roaming and scouting is better done by a Magicka Nightblade than a Stamina Nightblade?

    I guess you also think StamDK's are the best healers.
  • susmitds
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    susmitds wrote: »
    Best for ganking.
    3rd for solo roaming and scouting. (Behind magicka nightblades and stamina sorcerers)
    5th for open world fighting. (Behind other the stamina variants and magicka templar)
    7/8th for dueling. (Last along with magicka nightblades)
    Solo roaming and scouting is better done by a Magicka Nightblade than a Stamina Nightblade?

    I guess you also think StamDK's are the best healers.

    You have no idea how much permacloaking while running through zergs.
  • Cryptical
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Stamina Nightblades are the hard counters of Magicka Templars, true, but for open world, survivability is king. You are invoking the "Paper says rocks are balanced but scissors are OP argument here". In open world, you can see 22k Magicka Templars, facetank zergs. Show me a stamina nightblade who can do it. Magicka Templars are the stronger class overall, but stamina nightblades can kill them due to their natural counter mechanics to templar skills.

    I just think this paragraph was funny, the way that 'paper says rocks...' was brought up and knocked down, then the poster went and did the exact same thing...

    Stamina Nightblades are the hard counters of Magicka Templars, true, but for open world, survivability is king. You are invoking the "Paper says rocks are balanced but scissors are OP argument here". In open world, you can see 22k ((rocks)) , facetank zergs. Show me a ((paper)) who can do it. ((Rocks)) are the stronger class overall, but ((paper)) can kill them due to their natural counter mechanics to ((rock)) skills.

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  • Lava_Croft
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    susmitds wrote: »
    Best for ganking.
    3rd for solo roaming and scouting. (Behind magicka nightblades and stamina sorcerers)
    5th for open world fighting. (Behind other the stamina variants and magicka templar)
    7/8th for dueling. (Last along with magicka nightblades)
    Solo roaming and scouting is better done by a Magicka Nightblade than a Stamina Nightblade?

    I guess you also think StamDK's are the best healers.

    You have no idea how much permacloaking while running through zergs.
    Permacloaking through large groups of players that usually spam a lot of offensive AoE abilities.
  • Buffler
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    Played Stamblade since release. Do very well duelling and dont even bother having cloak on either bar. Currently run five eternal hunt with five skirmisher and 1 Kena. Have 4k weapon dmg after a dodge roll and 3.6k stam regen. I can outlast all heavy armour builds as lingering health pots with vigor is huge heals and shuffle being....well.....shuffle lol. Fear is your friend! Incap i dont use at all as it never lands so dawnbreaker everytime. The amount of ppl that walk right into the eternal hunt mine is staggering! Oh, and rearming trap!! Gotta love that
    Edited by Buffler on September 25, 2016 12:53PM
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