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Major brutality for NB?

Edziu
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1 question, why stealthy Assasin is forced to have big 2handed weapon for buff? if he dont want waste a potions for only single targets
where is logic? stealthy assasin, with equipped small weapons, waiting for gang on someone, waiting in hide....with very big 2handed weapon on his back....weapond long as assasin high....cumbersome with moving in stealth.....write more?
Edited by Edziu on September 21, 2016 11:03PM
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    lolwut
  • SirAndy
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    No need for 2H, just run the Dreugh King Slayer set for permanent Major Brutality buff.
    That's what i do on my Stamblade.

    The good thing about DKS is that it comes with jewelery and weapons so you can run another full set plus monster head/shoulder if you go dual wield.
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    Edited by SirAndy on September 21, 2016 11:13PM
  • Edziu
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    Warraxx wrote: »
    lolwut

    just thoughts about major brutality buff and nb, with sick looking assasing using bow with 2h big weapon to gang instead of smaller dual wield weapons, just same thing in pve, forced to use 2h only for this buff, no more skills
  • WhiteMage
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    Except for, you know, the nightblade skill that grants major brutality.
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  • Edziu
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    No need for 2H, just run the Dreugh King Slayer set for permanent Major Brutality buff.
    That's what i do on my Stamblade.

    The good thing about DKS is that it comes with jewelery and weapons so you can run another full set plus monster head/shoulder if you go dual wield.
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    naahh, im not sure, I will prefer more sic viper but on pve dregh king...you wont go on longer meta for end game content with this set :/ this isnt this for what most players will look
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    Edziu wrote: »
    naahh, im not sure, I will prefer more sic viper but on pve dregh king...you wont go on longer meta for end game content with this set :/ this isnt this for what most players will look
    Good thing i'm not "most players" then ...
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    PS: I'm at "end game" and i don't give a damn about "meta". My Stamblade is doing just fine.

  • Edziu
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    WhiteMage wrote: »
    Except for, you know, the nightblade skill that grants major brutality.

    mhm, give then option to no need to hit enemy to active this bonus and dont throw out from stealth like with entropy for spell dmage bonus for magica build who dont have this bonus in class skills
  • Edziu
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    Edziu wrote: »
    naahh, im not sure, I will prefer more sic viper but on pve dregh king...you wont go on longer meta for end game content with this set :/ this isnt this for what most players will look
    Good thing i'm not "most players" then ...
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    PS: I'm at "end game" and i don't give a damn about "meta". My Stamblade is doing just fine.

    for you it will be fine :P but if you want to go on vet trials you will be one from the worst DD in group ;P
    Edited by Edziu on September 21, 2016 11:22PM
  • WhiteMage
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    Edziu wrote: »
    WhiteMage wrote: »
    Except for, you know, the nightblade skill that grants major brutality.

    mhm, give then option to no need to hit enemy to active this bonus and dont throw out from stealth like with entropy for spell dmage bonus for magica build who dont have this bonus in class skills

    One word: Potions.

    You're not forced, you just don't like the other options.
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    Edziu wrote: »
    for you it will be fine :P but if you want to go on vet trials you will be one from the worst DD in group ;P
    I've done vet trials and did just fine ...
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  • Edziu
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    WhiteMage wrote: »
    Edziu wrote: »
    WhiteMage wrote: »
    Except for, you know, the nightblade skill that grants major brutality.

    mhm, give then option to no need to hit enemy to active this bonus and dont throw out from stealth like with entropy for spell dmage bonus for magica build who dont have this bonus in class skills

    One word: Potions.

    You're not forced, you just don't like the other options.

    what if someone will be forced, no other way but have no money? he wont then do this thing what he wnat or need to have?
    just major brutality with no be forced to use 2h or to spend money for pots, this is really hard just to change power extraction to givin major brutal without needed to hit target? or also to potions...if someone is more forced to use other potion than this for major brutal and dont have then 2h.

    from other way, is this so good when you see 75% of stamina players with bow and 2h or dual and 2h or S&B and 2h? this is so great to see most players with same weapon? when most of them dont wnat use 2h but this buff...
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    I don't like it either but that is a totally different argument, especially since you basically prefaced with "muh immershuns" with the clunky assassins thing.

    Remember combat is not inherently RP.
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    POWER EXTRACTION:

    Siphon the vigor from your enemies' blood, dealing 9 Magic Damage to all nearby enemies.
    If an enemy is hit, you gain Major Brutality, increasing Weapon Damage by 20% for 20 seconds.
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    Edziu wrote: »
    1 question, why stealthy Assasin is forced to have big 2handed weapon for buff? if he dont want waste a potions for only single targets
    where is logic? stealthy assasin, with equipped small weapons, waiting for gang on someone, waiting in hide....with very big 2handed weapon on his back....weapond long as assasin high....cumbersome with moving in stealth.....write more?

    Why does every other class then?
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    Phelaen wrote: »
    POWER EXTRACTION:

    Siphon the vigor from your enemies' blood, dealing 9 Magic Damage to all nearby enemies.
    If an enemy is hit, you gain Major Brutality, increasing Weapon Damage by 20% for 20 seconds.

    While this is an excerpt from an OLD tooltip, it does actually provide major brutality. Though I think the OP is complaining because he likes to gank from stealth, so I don't think power extraction is a viable method for him. Then again, I'd love to see a nightblade ganking with power extraction.

    OP, if you like to gank, pots are probably the way to go. You can get major brutality AND proc alchemist at the same time. What's so bad about that?
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    You can buy alliance war potions that have major brutality in them for pretty cheap. A great alternative in my opinion.
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  • Xvorg
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    Edziu wrote: »
    1 question, why stealthy Assasin is forced to have big 2handed weapon for buff? if he dont want waste a potions for only single targets
    where is logic? stealthy assasin, with equipped small weapons, waiting for gang on someone, waiting in hide....with very big 2handed weapon on his back....weapond long as assasin high....cumbersome with moving in stealth.....write more?

    as a stealthy assasin, you don't need it:

    1- We have a passive that increases our spell and wpn dmg while in stealth or invis
    2- we have access to the empower buff after a gap closer. Empower increases the direct dmg of the next attack in a 20% and that's a lot
    3- we have access to the minor berserk buff which increases the direct dmg in a 8%. Minor brutality + empower = 28% extra dmg
    4- And if you are skill full enough, we have Major Berserk which is the stronger dmg buff in the game.

    Major brutality "just" increases weapond dmg. Now, weapon dmg is one of the numbers used to calculate dmg. To be effective needs a very high base. at 2K wpn dmg, the buff will increase the wpn dmg in 400 points. At 3k, the increase will be 600 points. At 4k the increase will be 800 points. And that's not much extra dmg
    Edited by Xvorg on September 22, 2016 3:25PM
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    Brew a pot if you don't like rally, which also have a very nice self heal. Not to mention the extra penetration from maul 2H passive that helps down those pesky HA users.
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    Edziu wrote: »
    1 question, why stealthy Assasin is forced to have big 2handed weapon for buff? if he dont want waste a potions for only single targets
    where is logic? stealthy assasin, with equipped small weapons, waiting for gang on someone, waiting in hide....with very big 2handed weapon on his back....weapond long as assasin high....cumbersome with moving in stealth.....write more?

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  • MrTarkanian48
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    @Edziu

    1) If your melee ganking you should embrace the 2H. Rally is the only ability that gives major brutality without breaking stealth. Its an awesome tool, and there is no reason not to have it. On my Melee gank pvp build I double bar 2H. Back bar for buffs (Rally, Relentless Focus, Magelight, Alchemist), Front Bar Maelstrom 2H for Wrecking Blow from Stealth. If you can't fit a 2H on a melee gank build you are doing it wrong.

    2) If you are a bow gank, you back bar 2H. There is no reason to run DW in this setup.

    3) DKS is a bad set in my opinion and I would never run it. But it does give you a way to get brutality which seems to be your complaint, hence why it was suggested. Your criticism of it being bad is off base though. It is bad because you can easily slot a 2H with Rally or use pots to get Major Brutality, and then invest your 5 pc bonus in a better gear choice (Clever Alchemist).

    You can be serious about PVP ganking, and you can be serious about running Vet Trials. You cannot be serious about both with the same gear setup.
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    duel wield: Hidden, Flying, shrouded dagger....major brutality buff for 20 secs. I love shrouded cause it hits multiple players in tight formations
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    Edziu wrote: »
    WhiteMage wrote: »
    Edziu wrote: »
    WhiteMage wrote: »
    Except for, you know, the nightblade skill that grants major brutality.

    mhm, give then option to no need to hit enemy to active this bonus and dont throw out from stealth like with entropy for spell dmage bonus for magica build who dont have this bonus in class skills

    One word: Potions.

    You're not forced, you just don't like the other options.

    what if someone will be forced, no other way but have no money? he wont then do this thing what he wnat or need to have?
    just major brutality with no be forced to use 2h or to spend money for pots, this is really hard just to change power extraction to givin major brutal without needed to hit target? or also to potions...if someone is more forced to use other potion than this for major brutal and dont have then 2h.

    from other way, is this so good when you see 75% of stamina players with bow and 2h or dual and 2h or S&B and 2h? this is so great to see most players with same weapon? when most of them dont wnat use 2h but this buff...

    Not true. I use Rally for healing also. It's a GREAT heal on top of Brut. It's the only 2 handed ability I use when I pvp Bow/2H.
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    @Edziu
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