Let's enforce alliance choice

Voxicity · September 2016

Khenarthi wrote: »

No from me too. I have 10 AD characters (only the first on ever set foot in Cyro because I do not really enjoy pvp) and recently created one character in each of the other factions just to be able to buy the specific alliance style stones form the Tel Var vendor. With your proposal, I would no longer be able to buy the DC and EP style stones to get armour crafted with them. Yeah, no thanks.

Yeah. It's not like you could sell the AD ones and buy the DC EP ones from a guild trader. This is definitely the smartest reason to reject alliance enforcement.

Lightninvash · September 2016

wouldn't bother me as all my chars are AD and never had a thought to make one in a different alliance.

RAGUNAnoOne · September 2016

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

So if I, an AD player, meet a DC player outside of Cyrodiil and befriend him, and we both like to PVP, we'll never be able to PVP together, only against each other? I'll pass.

This I have friends in both DC and EP what should I do break even and have to roll with @Kammakazi and @UltimaJoe777 in AD (though the latter may not be bad

)? pass!

Artis · September 2016

Can't limit players like that. However, can encourage them to play one alliance. For example give a multiplier for AP earned per number of characters for that alliance. Or a buff. Or a debuff for each character in another alliance. Or a multiplier that decreases for each character in another alliance. Something like that.

Daemons_Bane · September 2016

Example: A person may have any mixture of characters that began as AD / DC / EP and played through those first levels from any mixture of Kenarthi / Stros / Bleakrock. When they enter their first campaign, they choose an alliance, and that choice holds for all their characters.

So basically, according to you, if I want to play with friends from a different alliance, I have to buy a new account??? Yeah that sounds idiotic

kargen27 · September 2016

Cryptical wrote: »

So, I think the alliance gameplay will need to have cross-alliance players choose. Or the dirty dealing will get worse.

How could it get any worse?

Vangy · September 2016

Lame..... This essentially means I need to leave 2 of my PvP guilds cos they are on a diff alliance from my main PvP guild. Just creates player divide cos of a bunch of no-sportsmanship exploiters who should be dealt with rather than put a restriction on everyone else. I play with different group of friends (cos its an mmo) after all. This would force me to choose only one group of friends to play with and neglect the others..... Why?

Airyus · September 2016

Make pvp arenas. Make pvp arenas like dungeons where you can group with any alliance. Problem solved.

Khenarthi · September 2016

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Khenarthi wrote: »

No from me too. I have 10 AD characters (only the first on ever set foot in Cyro because I do not really enjoy pvp) and recently created one character in each of the other factions just to be able to buy the specific alliance style stones form the Tel Var vendor. With your proposal, I would no longer be able to buy the DC and EP style stones to get armour crafted with them. Yeah, no thanks.

Yeah. It's not like you could sell the AD ones and buy the DC EP ones from a guild trader. This is definitely the smartest reason to reject alliance enforcement.

What, give money to an enemy player? The ones that kill me when I try to do some Cyro questing? No way. I created characters in the enemy factions precisely to avoid it.

lLordShadowl · September 2016

I believe that in any game more options and freedom you have the better the game experience is.

Only exception to this are situations where players turn this freedom against the game itself and use it for negative activities which then break the game. Otherwise I see it good for you to have options, more the better, because I want to play this a bit different than you and as long as your gaming doesn't negatively influence my gaming and other way around we are both happy to play it our own way.
Some people come to MMOs to sit in city and chat with people, some lonely go through whole game content, some really identify with their character and others simply min/max and that's all they care for.
This game came out as 3 alliances fighting against one another. That part of the game should be maintained somewhere (PvP areas) for this game to keep its magic and stay true to how it started. However there are many people who are not and will ever be not interested in PvP at all. Those people don't give a damn about war so once again, let everyone play the game they want to.
Ideas like that accounts should be alliance restricted are completely off. As someone said here you play the character, not other way around. I can identify with any of my characters in any alliance as they all have some great NPC, some honorable goals and some really bad NPC who did a alot stuff they should burn for.
Some people are upset about people playing other alliances but really working for the benefit of one. All I can say is, have you ever seen a war without traitors? There are always heroes and villains, that's what makes it real. Some NPCs betray you during various quests, why should you feel so different about players?

Wollust · September 2016

I like swapping alliance depending on where I get more and better PvP.

It's just too late to start implementing alliance restrictions. That's not something you can or should be doing over 2 years into the game just because some faction purists still think spying is such a big deal.

Suter1972 · September 2016

Years ago I used to play an MMO called star wars Galaxies. They had a huge open world with no faction boundaries. It was a mix of PVE and PVP in the same world.

How they tackled it was you were PVE as default. You had to go to a faction HQ and ‘declare’ yourself to the faction. This put a faction logo over your head and enabled you for PVP. You could still PVE but if you came across another declared opposition faction, a PVP battle would likely happen anywhere at any time. There were also ‘known areas’ such as cyro were PVP was highly likely.

They also had the duel system where PVE players could take part in one off 1v1 battles without declaring themselves for pvp

Voxicity · September 2016

Khenarthi wrote: »

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Khenarthi wrote: »

No from me too. I have 10 AD characters (only the first on ever set foot in Cyro because I do not really enjoy pvp) and recently created one character in each of the other factions just to be able to buy the specific alliance style stones form the Tel Var vendor. With your proposal, I would no longer be able to buy the DC and EP style stones to get armour crafted with them. Yeah, no thanks.

Yeah. It's not like you could sell the AD ones and buy the DC EP ones from a guild trader. This is definitely the smartest reason to reject alliance enforcement.

What, give money to an enemy player? The ones that kill me when I try to do some Cyro questing? No way. I created characters in the enemy factions precisely to avoid it.

No? Guild stores are multi-alliance. Someone from AD could have bought DC EP style materials and decided they don't want them anymore.

fastolfv_ESO · September 2016

its actually funny seeing people scream you cant limit people like that! they did this b4 for campaigns where you could only use chars of an alliance chosen for said campaign and it would lock your alts of other alliances out of it. Undoing that hurt cyro in a bad way with people just swapping over to the winning side or helping your home allaince on an alt from a different one. Sadly the went the opposite route discouraging alliance pride for the chance at a few more subs, theres zero reason in game to allow people to play all 3 sides on one campaign, if you went around trying to make friends in all 3 alliance you can always play in different campaigns to grp it was such a simple solution

Asardes · September 2016

I would only support one restriction regarding allegiance, which is account wide, but only concerning one campaign: if you joined a campaign with one of your characters which is from faction 1, you cannot also join the same campaign with your characters from factions 2 & 3, but only with characters from faction 1.

For example if I join Ebony Blade with my EP Nord DK, I cannot join Ebony Blade with my AD Khajiit NB or my DC Breton Templar, but I can join Haderus with my AD and Trueflame with my DC chars. Then my EP Dunmer DK cannot go to either Haderus or Trueflame, but can join Ebony Blade as well as Spell Breaker, Azura or other campaigns. This will make it harder for some players to gain AP by bombing & rebuilding resource towers with alts from different factions and other AP exploits.

Destyran · September 2016

Should lock all toons to a faction

Darlon · September 2016

Terrible idea.

leepalmer95 · September 2016

I have 6 DC, 1 AD and 1 EP

I specifically made my ad and ep to play with friends from that faction.

So no?

Roogen · September 2016

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

This is why One Tamriel is a joke. I bought the CE so I would have the advantage of choosing any race and faction combo including Imperial.

Now anybody can be essentially everything and play with anybody. What is even the point of the Cyrodil after this? Run a dungeon with somebody one minute fight them the next...

Dumbest post on the day so far.. RIGHT NOW you can run a dungeon with any alliance and pvp against them. One Tamriel doesn't change the dungeon system.

phairdon · September 2016

Either all characters are locked to the same alliance as chosen when entering Cyrodiil for the first time, or alliance change costs an arm & a leg, so to speak, say 10000 crowns. This very appropriate for players with the Imperial edition. Being able to play any race in any alliance. We should be able to assign all our characters to the same alliance in Cyrodiil.

Already witnessed in another MMO, the havoc created by being able to swap to a different 'alliance'. Generally players gravitate toward whichever side was strongest, this would eventually kill the alliance war in this game. Just look at how unbalanced the population is, in some of the campaigns now, at least on PC NA. Not helped by guilds from all three alliances deciding to campaign swap back & forth at the end of rounds.

idk · September 2016

Alliance allegiance should not be account wide.

Making it so would be putting a needless restriction and prevent us from rolling a character in a different allaince to play with new friends.

Keeping characters bound for life to the alliance they originally rolled in is sufficient.

Rohamad_Ali · September 2016

Too many people like to be able to win no matter which side it is for this to revert back . There's no such thing as who wins a campaign anymore . It's just the same people on different alliances . Like I stated before , I will just hold myself to one faction as my personal rule . I don't like switching teams in the middle of a game just to win some loot .

Asardes · September 2016

On EU PC out of the 30 day veteran campaigns:
- Spell Breaker is empty, and was dominated by EP for a long time, hardly see any battles there; mostly for the PvE-er who wants to get the shards, books, and fishing achievements
- Ebony Blade is more balanced, AD won last time, now it's EP vs. DC with AD lagging behind, has lower population but it's not empty at all, and there are constant small scale battles, with the occasional zerg.
- Trueflame is always full, with constant battles between large groups, has huge waiting queue and lags as hell.
I don't know much about the others as I never joined them but at a glance Azura looks pop balanced and Haderus looks pretty empty.

phairdon · September 2016

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Too many people like to be able to win no matter which side it is for this to revert back . There's no such thing as who wins a campaign anymore . It's just the same people on different alliances . Like I stated before , I will just hold myself to one faction as my personal rule . I don't like switching teams in the middle of a game just to win some loot .

Yeah. Certainly seen the angst it causes when a well known player from another alliance suddenly appears in another one. The accusations of spying & all the other bull**** you read in zone chat.

Cryptical · September 2016

fastolfv_ESO wrote: »

its actually funny seeing people scream you cant limit people like that! they did this b4 for campaigns where you could only use chars of an alliance chosen for said campaign and it would lock your alts of other alliances out of it. Undoing that hurt cyro in a bad way with people just swapping over to the winning side or helping your home allaince on an alt from a different one. Sadly the went the opposite route discouraging alliance pride for the chance at a few more subs, theres zero reason in game to allow people to play all 3 sides on one campaign, if you went around trying to make friends in all 3 alliance you can always play in different campaigns to grp it was such a simple solution

I've defended blue road keep against person X and then 15 minutes later found person X standing beside me helping to defend Aleswell!

Gaaaahhhhhh!

pick a flicking side!

Edit: because how the heck do I know that person X isn't just putting on a display so as to count how many of my alliance are there, and is feeding that back, or will just hop on another alt to take aleswell?!?!

Pick. A. Frigging. Side.

Rohamad_Ali · September 2016

phairdon wrote: »

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

Too many people like to be able to win no matter which side it is for this to revert back . There's no such thing as who wins a campaign anymore . It's just the same people on different alliances . Like I stated before , I will just hold myself to one faction as my personal rule . I don't like switching teams in the middle of a game just to win some loot .

Yeah. Certainly seen the angst it causes when a well known player from another alliance suddenly appears in another one. The accusations of spying & all the other bull**** you read in zone chat.

Yes it causes issues socially and people generally like loyalty . I like loyalty too and I think it is important . When I was DC for two years I only fought for DC . When I left I told people I played with well in advance I would like a change and would stick with it good or bad . All but one person was good with it and he is a faction role player . There is no pleasing everyone . Most of them left the game anyways because in beta for a different game so moving was good choice as guild was dying and I did not leave without notice . Left many things behind I had worked hard for but I do not mind .

This is just my play style and the way I handle faction change . Everybody is different so I don't expect everyone to care what I care about . I try to avoid judging and just play my game my way .

Daemons_Bane · September 2016

Don't try and punish one group of players, just because another group annoys you

White wabbit · September 2016

Only issue I have are the small percentage that jump from faction to faction to exploit , if you going to play that faction at the time then play don't stand around while your friends from your main faction kill other players

AlnilamE · September 2016

No, thank you.
What if you start PvP with one faction and you don't actually enjoy that faction and decide you'd rather PvP with another one?

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Khenarthi wrote: »

KaiVox22 wrote: »

Khenarthi wrote: »

No from me too. I have 10 AD characters (only the first on ever set foot in Cyro because I do not really enjoy pvp) and recently created one character in each of the other factions just to be able to buy the specific alliance style stones form the Tel Var vendor. With your proposal, I would no longer be able to buy the DC and EP style stones to get armour crafted with them. Yeah, no thanks.

Yeah. It's not like you could sell the AD ones and buy the DC EP ones from a guild trader. This is definitely the smartest reason to reject alliance enforcement.

What, give money to an enemy player? The ones that kill me when I try to do some Cyro questing? No way. I created characters in the enemy factions precisely to avoid it.

No? Guild stores are multi-alliance. Someone from AD could have bought DC EP style materials and decided they don't want them anymore.

...have you actually bought Alliance style stones from the siege merchants?

DHale · September 2016

I agree having 11 ad and one dc. Ep toons should be locked and stay away from the other two factions.