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Warlock's vs. Seducer's

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a1x23
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Has anyone done test to see which is better?
  • newtinmpls
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    why not both?
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
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    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • AzraelKrieg
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    Why not use both if you're going for a regen based build? I guess it differs on the race and class picked. Breton Sorc would benefit from seducer but a Altmer templar would make better use of Warlock.
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    Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 50
  • a1x23
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    i understand i could use both but i am looking for a side by side comparison.
  • AzraelKrieg
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    Side by side on the same character, same race, same class, same rotation, I assume Warlock would outperform seducer. It did back in June 2014 when it was the BIS gear every magicka build wanted.
    Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+
    Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 50
  • Stridig
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    I prefer the reduced cost over the magicka flood.
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  • susmitds
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    Lich beats both.
  • jhharvest
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Lich beats both.
    Gonna be "great" farming for Lich jewellery next patch. D:
  • AzraelKrieg
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    jhharvest wrote: »
    susmitds wrote: »
    Lich beats both.
    Gonna be "great" farming for Lich jewellery next patch. D:

    Just run Crypt of Hearts a few times. :smile:
    Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+
    Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 50
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    AzraelKrieg wrote: »
    jhharvest wrote: »
    susmitds wrote: »
    Lich beats both.
    Gonna be "great" farming for Lich jewellery next patch. D:

    Just run Crypt of Hearts a few times. :smile:

    Is it really gona be that easy?

  • AzraelKrieg
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    Ihatenightblades wrote: »
    AzraelKrieg wrote: »
    jhharvest wrote: »
    susmitds wrote: »
    Lich beats both.
    Gonna be "great" farming for Lich jewellery next patch. D:

    Just run Crypt of Hearts a few times. :smile:

    Is it really gona be that easy?

    Yeah. It was dropping on Normal Crypt of Hearts on the PTS when I watched @MissBizz and @UrQuan running it.
    Gold Dragons Guildmaster PC-NACR2000+
    Kalthar Wolf-Brother – EP Templar - 50 Maeli Valen - EP NB - 50Naps-During-Trials – EP Templar - 50Rulnakh - EP Sorc - 50Azrael Krieg - EP NB – 50Uvithasa Telvanni – EP DK – 50More-Tail - EP Warden - 50Narile Galen - EP Sorc - 50Bone Soldier - EP Necro - 50Naps-During-Trails - EP Necro - 50
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    AzraelKrieg wrote: »
    Ihatenightblades wrote: »
    AzraelKrieg wrote: »
    jhharvest wrote: »
    susmitds wrote: »
    Lich beats both.
    Gonna be "great" farming for Lich jewellery next patch. D:

    Just run Crypt of Hearts a few times. :smile:

    Is it really gona be that easy?

    Yeah. It was dropping on Normal Crypt of Hearts on the PTS when I watched @MissBizz and @UrQuan running it.

    Can confirm. I almost walked out with a full set. Didn't check traits or anything, but sets are generally easier to get your hands on in pts. Also if you wanna save upgrade mats, do the veteran version of Crypt of Hearts 1.
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    AzraelKrieg wrote: »
    Ihatenightblades wrote: »
    AzraelKrieg wrote: »
    jhharvest wrote: »
    susmitds wrote: »
    Lich beats both.
    Gonna be "great" farming for Lich jewellery next patch. D:

    Just run Crypt of Hearts a few times. :smile:

    Is it really gona be that easy?

    Yeah. It was dropping on Normal Crypt of Hearts on the PTS when I watched @MissBizz and @UrQuan running it.

    Can confirm. I almost walked out with a full set. Didn't check traits or anything, but sets are generally easier to get your hands on in pts. Also if you wanna save upgrade mats, do the veteran version of Crypt of Hearts 1.

    You know what, considering magicka is behind stamina i'm kind of happy, i don't want to have to farm for days in order to gear a character, not when i have 8
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  • idk
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    @a1x23

    Have to ask why you need so much sustain. The more they goes into sustain the smaller heals and damage are.

    Seducer is better for sustain and cost reduction is king. Warlock is better for shorter burst damage or heals.
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    Seducer better, cos warlock once per min magica gain is too long, my 30k magica can be all used up with Bol in 20sec.
    Pc na
  • laksikus
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    susmitds wrote: »
    Lich beats both.

    amberplasm beats lich by long
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    I always thought seducer's armor should enable a "once a day use persuasion skill even if you dont have it" element as a fluff type of benefit. Now that they do add these kinds of secondary partial bonuses like traps damage reduction, its sounding nice.

    yeah i know, most people take the two guild skills anyway.

    Though it was fun to run several alts thru without them at all...
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  • AtmaDarkwolf
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    laksikus wrote: »
    susmitds wrote: »
    Lich beats both.

    amberplasm beats lich by long

    lich + amberplasm is freaking insane 'never run out of magika' setup.

    And I mean never. Ever. Takes a LOT to even get to 33%, which u can prob manage once per min if you REALLY work at it, and that regen will top you off easily. Add in normal drop magika pots and i doubt one would ever, ever not have blue to burn!
  • akl77
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    Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »
    @a1x23

    Have to ask why you need so much sustain. The more they goes into sustain the smaller heals and damage are.

    Seducer is better for sustain and cost reduction is king. Warlock is better for shorter burst damage or heals.

    Well said, enough sustain is all you need, don't need to go all sustain and do some damages instead. Unless you are healing for trial.
    Pc na
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