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Nightblade nerf.
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Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This is becoming my default response to these posts, but here goes anyway.
STOP TRYING TO NERF THE GAME FOR THE SAKE OF PVP. PVP WILL NEVER BE BALLANCED. PLAY A GAME SOULY FOCUSED FOR COMPETATIVE PLAY, LIKE LEAGUE, AND YOU WILL HAVE A BETTER EXPERIENCE.4 -
kendellking_chaosb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭MaxwellCrystal wrote: »Definitely incap needs a nerf if smiting is getting a 25 ulti increase then incap should be increased by 50 or remove major defile from it's debuffs.
It's a single target the other single target ult that cost 100ults it's 30k harder on live ungodly in the next update.Chaos Shadow-Scale: Shadow Archer
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GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It seems that most of the community agrees that stamblades are extremely strong. Be sides the proc build I believe incapacitating strike is the problem. It hits like a truck, stuns, gives extra damage against the target and major defile. That's a ton of benefits to the ult.
The issue I believe is in the 50 cost. With the passive that gives 20 ult it feels like I get incap strikes twice in a ridiculously short time frame. Dawnbreaker is getting a 25% increase from 100 to 125 which I admit is a good idea. I believe incap strike being increased to at least 75 would be a good step in bringing stamblades in line with it messing with magblade
I saw your thread so i made a little video that i thought would be pretty fun. Nothing special in this video, just something i recorded last weekend while i was bored. Some Incap shenanigans inside, pretty much an Incap per kill since most players are Vampires. You'll also see what happens on console from time to time, the biggest zerg clusters appear sometimes (the lag is extreme). At the end i kill someone with 50k health too! Enjoy!
If you have any questions about any of the build specifics, just pm me or something.
Now after watching the video, you gotta realize one thing. I'm a glass cannon build. If anyone even flicks me its lights out... but the pay off is i can linger around the map assassinating players. Incap may be very good 1v1 but it's not going to effect group play in pvp all that much. This is the play-style i enjoy so please refrain from hateful comments.
@Wrobel Btw i really miss stealth regen :'(
Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on September 21, 2016 4:14AMPS4 NA DC1 -
chaserstorm16909✭✭✭✭✭Nothing in this game needs a nerf. Magicka nightblades and dragonknights need a buff to bring them on par with their stamina counterparts. That is all.2 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Incap needs to lose the cc, or increase cost to 75, or both.PS4 EU DC
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I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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FloppyTouch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Nightblades are obviously balance and in no need of nerfs in anyway that why almost everyone plays them in pvp...
Pls stop that's like saying mdk was balance when this game came out
Magic does not need a buff in anyway Stam builds have to be nerfed and there core abilities need a nerf everyone that plays this game agrees. Vigor heals way to much shuffle is too much, add that with Stam nb burst damage its just disgusting. All Stam needs to be tone down a bit like magic was.1 -
Essiaga✭✭✭✭"NB don't have Major Mending, so we're so squishy."
So we found a buff NB don't have.
NB are the buff and debuff kings of the ESO. NB don't have Mending. NB have Protection (from Cloak an escape skill that buffs their damage and provides a CC with damage), Maim (2 option, one that provides free damage and an optional teleport, the other a mass CC, and Snares) as well as Evasion and Expedition (3 options?) in class ... and actually those last 2 from the same skill. NB get passive Resolve and Ward, though at a short duration ... from attacking. It's in the damage rotation. Most class have to blow GCD on a buff. They can take some damage and then stealth away (activati Protection, which passively gives them mitgation) or activate a shade (Maim)and teleport away.
Just about every one of their skills provides 3 effects (Example: Mass Hys- Mass CC, Mass Debuf, Mass snare), then activation triggers passives (Major Resolve AND Ward, not to mention the additional health just for slotting). The class is stacked with amazing multi-layed tools. It's got amazing potential regen, buffs, debuffs, and additional damage for doing damage.
Of all the classes this is really the only one I look at and think "I wish I could slot 15 skills." It's also the only class that has 2 legit Ultimate that can be used in PVP, and one is SO cheap it's literally in the rotation for most players.
I don't think raising Incap Strike to 75 will ruin the class. With the gear options out now and the options coming with Update 12 NB are going to be more bursty, which means they're Vigor and Rally will tick that much harder as well.
L2P you say? SO keep going the Heavy Armor meta that bursty stam builds helped create. Then NBs complain that Heavy Armor is to strong.
If ZOS scaled healing off something other then damage, and require players to press a button for Set proc that do more then buff/debuff, then I think the NBs and stam builds in general (as well as mTemplar) would be pretty close to balanced.
Incap increased to 75 would be a decent start for now. ultimate is far to easy to come by for NBs to leave it that low.4 -
Berenhir✭✭✭✭✭
✭Won't matter if you nerf incap or not. Don't you read PTS Natch Potes guys? 2h Ultimate? Soul strike? You will all cry so hard next patch.
PS: Actually agree with L2P comments here. Usually hate those but incap is dodgeable, blockable and predictable as hell. If you die from stealth burst, slot radiant magelight.PC EU - Ebonheart Pact - Gray Host - Death Recap -#zergfarming -2 -
Mooolon✭✭Why nerf NB´s? Mana & Stam NB's arent the best PVE DD Class and only thing we are a good choice is PvP.
So maybe dont nerf anything, fix the bugs.
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vamp_emily✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Interview with Emily:
Hi, Emily how are you today?
Fine
If you don't mind, I have a few questions to ask about Nightblades.
Well I really don't have time, but ok ask me.
Have you ever played a Nightblade in ESO?
Yes, I have. My first year I played nothing but Stam NBs. Just recently I started playing Mag NBs.
What are you currently playing now?
Everything. NBs, Templars and most recently I am interested in DK Tanking. I have never played a Sorc.
How often do you play PvP?
pft.. do you really have to ask that question? I think you would pass out if I told you how many hours I have played in Cyro; or, you would tell me to get a RL.
Do you think Nightblades need nerfed?
No.
Why don't you think they need nerfed? Most players think they are Over Powering.
Well honestly, I don't think any class is Over Powering or Needs buffed. Every class I play has a unique ability that is strong. I know some people say Stam needs toned down but from my experience Mag is not as weak as people think it is.
How do you feel about getting ganked by a Nightblade?
It is no different than getting killed by another class. However, Nightblades are a little bit sneakier.
Any advice you want to give to the players of ESO that think Nightblades are OP?
I suggest learning how to play the game. If you are constantly dying maybe adjust your build, or travel in groups. PvP in Cyro is Alliance vs Alliance vs Alliance. Quit trying to be that Solo King/Queen, and team with your alliance to win the campaign.
Edited by vamp_emily on September 21, 2016 1:00PM
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MrBrandon✭✭✭It seems that most of the community agrees that stamblades are extremely strong. Be sides the proc build I believe incapacitating strike is the problem. It hits like a truck, stuns, gives extra damage against the target and major defile. That's a ton of benefits to the ult.
The issue I believe is in the 50 cost. With the passive that gives 20 ult it feels like I get incap strikes twice in a ridiculously short time frame. Dawnbreaker is getting a 25% increase from 100 to 125 which I admit is a good idea. I believe incap strike being increased to at least 75 would be a good step in bringing stamblades in line with it messing with magblade
Stop complaining.1 -
FearlessOne_2014✭✭✭✭✭
✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »It seems that most of the community agrees that stamblades are extremely strong. Be sides the proc build I believe incapacitating strike is the problem. It hits like a truck, stuns, gives extra damage against the target and major defile. That's a ton of benefits to the ult.
The issue I believe is in the 50 cost. With the passive that gives 20 ult it feels like I get incap strikes twice in a ridiculously short time frame. Dawnbreaker is getting a 25% increase from 100 to 125 which I admit is a good idea. I believe incap strike being increased to at least 75 would be a good step in bringing stamblades in line with it messing with magblade
I saw your thread so i made a little video that i thought would be pretty fun. Nothing special in this video, just something i recorded last weekend while i was bored. Some Incap shenanigans inside, pretty much an Incap per kill since most players are Vampires. You'll also see what happens on console from time to time, the biggest zerg clusters appear sometimes (the lag is extreme). At the end i kill someone with 50k health too! Enjoy!
If you have any questions about any of the build specifics, just pm me or something.
Now after watching the video, you gotta realize one thing. I'm a glass cannon build. If anyone even flicks me its lights out... but the pay off is i can linger around the map assassinating players. Incap may be very good 1v1 but it's not going to effect group play in pvp all that much. This is the play-style i enjoy so please refrain from hateful comments.
@Wrobel Btw i really miss stealth regen :'(
If you don't want to see your easy god mode play style nerfed like sorcs. Then may I suggest that you stop posting videos like this on the forums. Or I can just hand you a newer shovel. So you can dig your grave even faster. The power to burst people down in less time it take's take to break CC. More survivalbility then all but the wet noodle tanks. Super Mobility best in the game.
Yup you have pretty much confirmed to others. What I was trying to get them to see. Thank you, you made my job much easier. Now please ZOS for the love of everything apply the nerf bat nuke very generously to this class.
Videos like this happening in your MMO is cancerous to itself, and your community. @ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , @Wrobel . Your MMO acts more like a FPS that take no skills. Then a actual MMO.Edited by FearlessOne_2014 on September 21, 2016 1:37PM0 -
It seems that most of the community agrees that stamblades are extremely strong. Be sides the proc build I believe incapacitating strike is the problem. It hits like a truck, stuns, gives extra damage against the target and major defile. That's a ton of benefits to the ult.
The issue I believe is in the 50 cost. With the passive that gives 20 ult it feels like I get incap strikes twice in a ridiculously short time frame. Dawnbreaker is getting a 25% increase from 100 to 125 which I admit is a good idea. I believe incap strike being increased to at least 75 would be a good step in bringing stamblades in line with it messing with magblade
let me guess u get pawned by nbs alot ... seems to be a l2p issue to me
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Knootewoot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Where is the Warden class?٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
"I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."0 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭RLY? NB needs a nerf?
Have your ever seen a stamsorcerer on the battlefield? Sorcerers have super sayan mode and a "blink" escape that also does damage. They have a huge escape and a insane burst.
Don't "nerf NB's" on me please.
Some think whatever they die to need to be nerfed. That's all this is.1 -
olsborg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It seems that most of the community agrees that stamblades are extremely strong. Be sides the proc build I believe incapacitating strike is the problem. It hits like a truck, stuns, gives extra damage against the target and major defile. That's a ton of benefits to the ult.
The issue I believe is in the 50 cost. With the passive that gives 20 ult it feels like I get incap strikes twice in a ridiculously short time frame. Dawnbreaker is getting a 25% increase from 100 to 125 which I admit is a good idea. I believe incap strike being increased to at least 75 would be a good step in bringing stamblades in line with it messing with magblade
Make dawnbreaker also dodgeable then ok. Every stam build is running shuffle wich also makes the base miss chance of incap 20%. Add the fact that it can be dodgerolled too resulting in about 50% of my incaps are missed.
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the_man_of_steal✭✭✭It seems that most of the community agrees that stamblades are extremely strong. Be sides the proc build I believe incapacitating strike is the problem. It hits like a truck, stuns, gives extra damage against the target and major defile. That's a ton of benefits to the ult.
The issue I believe is in the 50 cost. With the passive that gives 20 ult it feels like I get incap strikes twice in a ridiculously short time frame. Dawnbreaker is getting a 25% increase from 100 to 125 which I admit is a good idea. I believe incap strike being increased to at least 75 would be a good step in bringing stamblades in line with it messing with magblade
Nightblades are extra squishy so they need that kind of damage. If you see a NB, they should be priority one to kill. No nerfs required2 -
OOJIMMY✭✭✭I like how every one is trying to say I'm just upset that I got ganked. I don't care if I die getting ganked. I'm not saying make it weaker by any means. Dawnbreaker is getting an increase and it does half the stuff. It hits more than one person l2p right?
Dragon leap can be dodge and it's over double the cost and only knocks back. I want Dragon leap to cost 30 ult which is fair because we don't get a passive for easy 20 ult.0 -
socivL✭✭✭I like how every one is trying to say I'm just upset that I got ganked. I don't care if I die getting ganked. I'm not saying make it weaker by any means. Dawnbreaker is getting an increase and it does half the stuff. It hits more than one person l2p right?
Dragon leap can be dodge and it's over double the cost and only knocks back. I want Dragon leap to cost 30 ult which is fair because we don't get a passive for easy 20 ult.
ult fraud is a thing.
one of my characters is a stamNB - i dont know how to play the thing though.2 templars - 1 cup0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
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Really wish people would stop using the word cancer.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...1
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