With no levels in the game anymore there is no reason to raise the gear cap other than to purposely obsolete all old gear with one single move. I'd consider that a slap in the face unless there were some actual reason other than annoyance and regrind behind it. I'd be leaving partly on principle and partly because I will have lost all faith that the design team had any clue what they were doing and have nobody on staff who understands basic math. A gear cap increase, at minimum, would have to come with a very detailed explanation from the design team on why it's necessary to have us all regrind everything again, because they'd really need to sell me on the idea. If I'm regrinding from scratch, that's a perfect opportunity to do it in another game instead. Never give your players reasons to leave.

Gear cap increases work in other games because it makes you more powerful compared to older content. You'd be using gear that's 2 tiers higher which would help you crush the new harder content as it's released. No levels = no numerically harder content ever.

For the love of Akatosh, please do NOT increase gear to 180!!! W edon't need it, we have champion points. That would be a major headache and heartache to mine all those gold upgrades again

And this is EXACTLY the reason I'm no longer playing the game... because there is no way for me to advance my character. I'm running around in top level gear, there is nothing besides adding more CP, which with diminished returns doesn't benefit my character all that much. So until they increase the gear level, I won't be playing. That is why I liked other MMOs, because every few months they would increase gear level and so every few months you would have an avenue to advance your character... with ESO, that advancement has stopped. As a solo quester, I like my questing to advance my character, and increase CP isn't enough... at least with a gear grind, I would be working towards something- right now questing is pretty much pointless IMO.

Funny how most of the complaints are from min/maxers who don't want to have to re-min/max their gear... but most players coming from other MMOs see the benefit of always having something to work towards.

It should have been increased long ago, and will hopefully be more often afterwards.
With no incentive to hunt new/upgraded stuff, game becomes too stale and boring.

But we really need master crafters to be able to change traits and upgrade existing weapons (for a ton of expensive mats).
Because getting right traits on everything is not easy.

ADarklore wrote: »

And this is EXACTLY the reason I'm no longer playing the game... because there is no way for me to advance my character. I'm running around in top level gear, there is nothing besides adding more CP, which with diminished returns doesn't benefit my character all that much. So until they increase the gear level, I won't be playing. That is why I liked other MMOs, because every few months they would increase gear level and so every few months you would have an avenue to advance your character... with ESO, that advancement has stopped. As a solo quester, I like my questing to advance my character, and increase CP isn't enough... at least with a gear grind, I would be working towards something- right now questing is pretty much pointless IMO.

Funny how most of the complaints are from min/maxers who don't want to have to re-min/max their gear... but most players coming from other MMOs see the benefit of always having something to work towards.

although i agree it would be nice to advance a character, when they increase CP gear cap it will be an auto increase/scale of mobs...therefore no real advancement and there in lies the real problem

the future will have to be a complete re-working of the CP system as this has now become the "progression system" they were supposedly replacing Vet levels with, as the power creep is starting to get out of hand

It irks the *** out of me when ADD kids say they need more levels because they have nothing to play for...

If you're not having fun now, grinding for another set of gear is not going to change that.

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Im with @olsborg the day they increase it to 180 is the day i'll likely quit.

Getting certain gear is annoying enough with RNG but they the price to upgrade it to gold, at least on ps4 eu where a alloy is 20k... is just crazy.

Also agree, spent so much time getting my characters to where they are, I'm not keen on doing it all over again just to be competitive, I'm on Xbox and alloys are around the same price. I'll most likely find another game when they increase it.

Although i can't see them doing it for a long time, with everything they've scaled to CP160 now would seem a waste of time to just up the level cap. After one tamriel I can see it mostly going towards player housing so Zos can make some £££ from the crown store.

CP 160 should go to 200 not 180..

They should give 5 items upgrade tokens/voucher to players for upgrading their 5 best items to CP 200 or 180 (whatever next cap)

This will allow players to save their best top items and will not require to grind them

Bryanonymous wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

If raising the gear cap is such an issue with some players I suggest avoiding MMOs since this is par for the course.

This attitude is... Smh.

Pretty much why games die.

Game will die if it stop progressing, i.e. combat level Freeze's etc..

Eventually it will happen if CP gear cap will not be increased.

Experienced players need reasons to further continue playing..

Lord_Dexter wrote: »

Bryanonymous wrote: »

Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »

If raising the gear cap is such an issue with some players I suggest avoiding MMOs since this is par for the course.

This attitude is... Smh.

Pretty much why games die.

Game will die if it stop progressing, i.e. combat level Freeze's etc..

Eventually it will happen if CP gear cap will not be increased.

Experienced players need reasons to further continue playing..

I'm just letting you know, you might agree, and you might not... but grinding is not content, and it's not what keeps a game alive. Nor does telling other players, 'MMO, don't like it, then leave'. Can't tell you how many games player base had this attitude and the game slowly deteriorated. The attitude 'just accept it because that's the way they all are' does not help anything. There's a reason we choose one game over the countless others... Because it is different. It is unique. It is worth playing.

So what exactly makes higher level gear better than what you have right now? You want the game to be easier?

Having the gear cap increase is no different from them adding a new set to craft in terms of using up crafting mats. People will have to use their mats to craft the set and upgrade it to gold. So I don't understand why it matters so much that the gear cap would increase.

Bryanonymous wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Having the gear cap increase is no different from them adding a new set to craft in terms of using up crafting mats. People will have to use their mats to craft the set and upgrade it to gold. So I don't understand why it matters so much that the gear cap would increase.

So a higher cap would have a different combination of perks?

No I am saying if they increased the cap to 180 you would have to use your mats to craft a new set of gear. If they added a new set at 160 that you really wanted to use then you would still have to use your mats to craft a new set of gear. So increasing the cap really isn't gonna make a difference in terms of crafting. Now grinding for gear is a whole different story.