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PvP Templar Healers. I Have Questions. I Am Need of Assistiance. Please.

Serjustin19
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First of. Mostly Everyone is coming after me first. I am only PvP Templar healer at this time. Which it makes since to come after me. However some do ignore me which is a bad idea since I heal really hard for level 40 High Elf Templar. (Due to CP I think)

However. My surviviablity is the question. Yes I must admit I wear white armor. Just want to wait till I am level 50. To get good armor. Except I have questions.

My. Spell damage is 1253 same as my weapon damage. It probly reason why I don't survive much.

My stone is that added healing thing. (Not good with names)

In which sets are good for healing, good stats and sometimes for solo?

I wear 5 light and 2 heavy is this a bad idea? I get killed with 1 hit.

I also don't want to rely on spamming sweeps. Which skills be good with Sweeps.

I am so close to unlocking sheild. Later I plan to use blazing shield after I morph it. Are both shields great?

Is there any way that I can still become a full time PvP Healer while do loads of damage to defend myself?

I also love honor the dead. (Not a question. Just a fact. Saved me load of times.

I use max magicka and health food. I think it is good. But is it recomended?

Formerly Serjustin19, Save for Forum Of Course.... Fiery_Darkness (PC NA) currently.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    You're on the right track but you REALLY should not be wearing white armor.

    Also, split your blue champion points 50-50 between elemental expert and thurmatauge.

    If you don't have champion points, and you're wearing white armor while under level 50 you may as well hang a sign on your neck that says "free alliance points".

    Also some people, like me for example, will target you first to proc Vicious Death on this max character next to you.

    Lastly when you do get to 50, if you have 160 CP craft yourself some CP150 blue gear. Your entire set can be built for under 20k. CP160 gear can run half a million to a million gold for a full set of gold gear. It is definitely better than CP150 gear but nowhere near 25 to 50 times better like the cost increase. If you're a no CP level 40 and you're in Cyrodiil under equipped ... just duck and cover.
    Edited by THEDKEXPERIENCE on September 12, 2016 2:22AM
  • Sheuib
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    First off the impen trait is your friend in PVP. I run 5 pieces with impen and a transmutation set plus some CP in crit resist. When the transmutation buff is up I have around 3300 crit resist. With this I can heal through any single player attacks and even hold off several players for a while.

    I'm using all light gear, 5 Kagrenac, 5 Transmutation, and 2 Skoria. Duel wield swords. You also need a lot of regen so I run max health with magicka regen food. The recipe is from a quest in wrothgar.

    On my healing bar I run honor the dead, channeled focus, radiant aura, structured entropy, purifying ritual, and reviving barrier.

    For DPS you're going to want to stay ranged so I run vampires bane, dark flare, radiant glory, structured entropy, radiant magelight, and ice comet.

    Being a PVP healer you are almost always in a group. But, I have been able to solo gank with this build if you get the rotation right.
  • Lexxypwns
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    More damage = bigger heals, you just need to make sure you're running at LEAST purple impen armor and gold weapons are basically mandatory since they add so much damage.
    Edited by Lexxypwns on September 12, 2016 5:55AM
  • Odditorium
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    Right now I am running 5 heavy - Krags, Malabeth w/ impen.
    2 light - healer w/ healer bling
    Axe and shield/ resto. Weapons have defending trait. Shield has nirn
    I am Imperial so I have all my attribute points in magicka
    I have magicka enchantments on all of my gear and magicka regen on my bling
    I use the ritual mundus for extra healing.

    I use elusive mist from the vampire skills for escapes and to take less damage while I am regenerating stamina.

    I block-cast.

    On my offense bar (S&B) I have Elusive Mist/Honor the Dead/Javelin/Sweeps/Radiant Oppression - Ult/Devouring Swarm

    On the heal bar I have Retreating Maneuver/Extended Ritual/Mutagen/Healing Springs/Repentance - Ult/Reviving Barrier

    The Krags is a 5 piece when I have S&B going so I can take more dmg while rezzing.

    I use tri-stat purple drink

    I use stam/health/unstoppable potion

    I use resto heavy attacks to restore magicka whenever possible

    I run with a 4-5 person zerg on a regular basis which sometimes grows to a 12 person zerg if the geezers have had their naps.

    My toon had a slow-movement bug about 2 minutes in which is why I'm moving sooooo sssllllllooooooowwwww.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYhG3rE_9LM
    Edited by Odditorium on September 12, 2016 11:16AM
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  • Paraflex
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    Id say depends on the healer role you are trying to fill. Are you a buffer? Support healer? Burst and Aoe Healer? Those three types of healers play different roles.

    For example the buffer may have low impen with 5 spell cure and even a gossomer buff suit.

    Support healer would bring a mix of a buff suit and certain utility like mag dks or mag nbs will fill those role well

    Burst healer is a Templar BoL with healing spring and purifying light.

    Transmutation is key for your group in any role you need to have this set


    Pick your role I do them all depending on the situation but regardless you want to have 2k impen because that's important to reach cap with transmutation buff. I will post some videos in a pvp group play that gives you a good bar setup.

    I currently run 5 spectral eye heavy 5 transmutation sword and board main bar with a master resto back bar
    Edited by Paraflex on September 12, 2016 11:22PM
    Hollykills CP 630 Templar Healer - Ad PS4 Warlord Rank

    Max Stam/Mag Dk
    Max Stam Sorc
    Max Stam/Mag NB

    Don't care to dps much so I heal.


  • Paraflex
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    Hollykills CP 630 Templar Healer - Ad PS4 Warlord Rank

    Max Stam/Mag Dk
    Max Stam Sorc
    Max Stam/Mag NB

    Don't care to dps much so I heal.


  • Paraflex
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    Hollykills CP 630 Templar Healer - Ad PS4 Warlord Rank

    Max Stam/Mag Dk
    Max Stam Sorc
    Max Stam/Mag NB

    Don't care to dps much so I heal.


  • Paraflex
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    Those are recent patch healer builds...there's a lot to healing it's not just a BOL bot build
    Hollykills CP 630 Templar Healer - Ad PS4 Warlord Rank

    Max Stam/Mag Dk
    Max Stam Sorc
    Max Stam/Mag NB

    Don't care to dps much so I heal.


  • worsttankever
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    These videos are telling me .. I need to finally go vampire for my templar healer. Take advantage of mist form for maneuverability.
    Men are but flesh and blood. They know their doom, but not the hour.
  • Most_Awesome
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    These videos are telling me .. I need to finally go vampire for my templar healer. Take advantage of mist form for maneuverability.

    Yes mist form is a must, when you get focused a mist form around a corner or wall and boom back to full health again

    Here was my healer I used to run, oh and unless your running in an organised zerg raid I would stick to heavy armour
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lumAbu-kKDE
  • Serjustin19
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    Hi all. Thanks for helping me. Lot's of wonderful and helpful tips. Thank you all.
    Formerly Serjustin19, Save for Forum Of Course.... Fiery_Darkness (PC NA) currently.
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    I used to mainly heal around a year ago, but now I'm build so I can survive and kill myself, and heal anyone that needs it in the process.

    I currently wear 5 kag, 3-4 magnus and 3 willpower. I got a heavy chest and shoulders, everything with the impen trait (but I think making the 2 heavy pieces reinforced could be better). I got magicka enchants on all pieces and spell power on the jewelry. You can use 2 skoria for a bit more damage if you want.

    I use the spell power mundus and sit around 4k spellpower buffed, with 1200 regen and 37k magicka (without CA or scroll buffs).

    For weapons I have 2 things:

    Sword and shield for my back bar when I solo and duel wield on my offensive bar. If you got trouble managing your magicka you can use a healing staff. You can put powered on the staff and reinforced on the shield, all three sword got sharpened on them with spell power enchants. On the staff you can either put a return magicka/ stamina enchant on it, or a poison that increases all cost for tanky enemies. I got a magicka enchants on the shield since it buffs the damage a bit, but stamina could also be nice.

    When I'm in a group that needs a more active healer I hold sword and shield on my attack bar and staff on my defence bar.

    My attack bar:
    Puncturing sweeps- toppling charge - structured entropy - honor the dead - radiant magelight/ repentance ultimate: radiant sweep/ dawnbreaker

    Defense bar:
    (Open slot, you can put whatever you want here depending on the situation) - rune focus- extended ritual- honor the dead- radiant opression ultimate: shooting star

    I use tri pods or a max health and magicka regen food, depending on the situation. With the latter I got around 2k regen.

    Attributes: 50 magicka - 0 health - 17 stamina
    I've tested this anx having the extra stamina is really nice in smaller fights, there is no use in extra magicka if you get stunned and die after all.

    I can take a picture of it all if you're interested when I'm home, so its a bit easier to follow.
    Edited by MalakithAlamahdi on September 16, 2016 5:49AM
  • Sheuib
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    I currently wear 5 kag, 3-4 magnus and 3 willpower. I got a heavy chest and shoulders, everything with the impen trait (but I think making the 2 heavy pieces reinforced could be better). I got magicka enchants on all pieces and spell power on the jewelry. You can use 2 skoria for a bit more damage if you want.

    I use the spell power mundus and sit around 4.5- 4.8k spellpower buffed, with 1200 regen and 37k magicka.

    I have to throw the BS flag on this one. My main is a high elf magicka templar and I have ran gold versions of that same gear with max CP. I have never had close to that much spell power with buffs. So you are either bsing or cheating. So which is it?
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    Sheuib wrote: »

    I currently wear 5 kag, 3-4 magnus and 3 willpower. I got a heavy chest and shoulders, everything with the impen trait (but I think making the 2 heavy pieces reinforced could be better). I got magicka enchants on all pieces and spell power on the jewelry. You can use 2 skoria for a bit more damage if you want.

    I use the spell power mundus and sit around 4.5- 4.8k spellpower buffed, with 1200 regen and 37k magicka.

    I have to throw the BS flag on this one. My main is a high elf magicka templar and I have ran gold versions of that same gear with max CP. I have never had close to that much spell power with buffs. So you are either bsing or cheating. So which is it?

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_025502.pngimg

    That + 348 from my weapon enchant is 4595 spell power. I still have 2 purple enchants on my rings, so that would buff it up a bit as well. I've seen it at 4.8k before but that might have been multiple weapon enchants at the same time being up (if that's possible) or a buff from another player, but this is kinda hard to make a screenshot off.

    But good to know i'm cheating, i guess you learn something new every day!

    Edit: Now with golden enchants, though it doesn't make much of a difference:

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_031824.pngpost images
    Edited by MalakithAlamahdi on September 15, 2016 1:20AM
  • manny254
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    Sheuib wrote: »

    I currently wear 5 kag, 3-4 magnus and 3 willpower. I got a heavy chest and shoulders, everything with the impen trait (but I think making the 2 heavy pieces reinforced could be better). I got magicka enchants on all pieces and spell power on the jewelry. You can use 2 skoria for a bit more damage if you want.

    I use the spell power mundus and sit around 4.5- 4.8k spellpower buffed, with 1200 regen and 37k magicka.

    I have to throw the BS flag on this one. My main is a high elf magicka templar and I have ran gold versions of that same gear with max CP. I have never had close to that much spell power with buffs. So you are either bsing or cheating. So which is it?

    He has major and minor sorcery with the Apprentice. In all likely hood nirn swords, CA, and the 5% spell damage from the Offensive Scroll.
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  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    manny254 wrote: »
    Sheuib wrote: »

    I currently wear 5 kag, 3-4 magnus and 3 willpower. I got a heavy chest and shoulders, everything with the impen trait (but I think making the 2 heavy pieces reinforced could be better). I got magicka enchants on all pieces and spell power on the jewelry. You can use 2 skoria for a bit more damage if you want.

    I use the spell power mundus and sit around 4.5- 4.8k spellpower buffed, with 1200 regen and 37k magicka.

    I have to throw the BS flag on this one. My main is a high elf magicka templar and I have ran gold versions of that same gear with max CP. I have never had close to that much spell power with buffs. So you are either bsing or cheating. So which is it?

    He has major and minor sorcery with the Apprentice. In all likely hood nirn swords, CA, and the 5% spell damage from the Offensive Scroll.

    Ah yea, the scroll could have pushed it up to 4.8k, totally forgot about that one, though i don't use nirn swords.
    Edited by MalakithAlamahdi on September 15, 2016 1:51AM
  • Sheuib
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    Sheuib wrote: »

    I currently wear 5 kag, 3-4 magnus and 3 willpower. I got a heavy chest and shoulders, everything with the impen trait (but I think making the 2 heavy pieces reinforced could be better). I got magicka enchants on all pieces and spell power on the jewelry. You can use 2 skoria for a bit more damage if you want.

    I use the spell power mundus and sit around 4.5- 4.8k spellpower buffed, with 1200 regen and 37k magicka.

    I have to throw the BS flag on this one. My main is a high elf magicka templar and I have ran gold versions of that same gear with max CP. I have never had close to that much spell power with buffs. So you are either bsing or cheating. So which is it?

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_025502.pngimg

    That + 348 from my weapon enchant is 4595 spell power. I still have 2 purple enchants on my rings, so that would buff it up a bit as well. I've seen it at 4.8k before but that might have been multiple weapon enchants at the same time being up (if that's possible) or a buff from another player, but this is kinda hard to make a screenshot off.

    But good to know i'm cheating, i guess you learn something new every day!

    Edit: Now with golden enchants, though it doesn't make much of a difference:

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_031824.pngpost images

    https://youtu.be/0t1arqZcfo0

    I used almost the same setup as what you said. Mine is all light but I have some pieces as divines which you stated you used all impen. I do not use the spell damage weapon enchants but even if you proc both of them you would not get the spell damage you are posting.
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    Sheuib wrote: »
    Sheuib wrote: »

    I currently wear 5 kag, 3-4 magnus and 3 willpower. I got a heavy chest and shoulders, everything with the impen trait (but I think making the 2 heavy pieces reinforced could be better). I got magicka enchants on all pieces and spell power on the jewelry. You can use 2 skoria for a bit more damage if you want.

    I use the spell power mundus and sit around 4.5- 4.8k spellpower buffed, with 1200 regen and 37k magicka.

    I have to throw the BS flag on this one. My main is a high elf magicka templar and I have ran gold versions of that same gear with max CP. I have never had close to that much spell power with buffs. So you are either bsing or cheating. So which is it?

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_025502.pngimg

    That + 348 from my weapon enchant is 4595 spell power. I still have 2 purple enchants on my rings, so that would buff it up a bit as well. I've seen it at 4.8k before but that might have been multiple weapon enchants at the same time being up (if that's possible) or a buff from another player, but this is kinda hard to make a screenshot off.

    But good to know i'm cheating, i guess you learn something new every day!

    Edit: Now with golden enchants, though it doesn't make much of a difference:

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_031824.pngpost images

    https://youtu.be/0t1arqZcfo0

    I used almost the same setup as what you said. Mine is all light but I have some pieces as divines which you stated you used all impen. I do not use the spell damage weapon enchants but even if you proc both of them you would not get the spell damage you are posting.

    Well, you see it in the pictures, I could make a video showing it if you want. You should try it in Cyrodiil, stats are also scaled different there.
    Edited by MalakithAlamahdi on September 15, 2016 9:46AM
  • Ashnunn
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    Well, you see it in the pictures, I could make a video showing it if you want. You should try it in Cyrodiil, stats are also scaled different there.[/quote]

    please do



    CP 561
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    please do


    Sure, although I don't understand what the point is if the pictures show the stats.

    EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m3E47Aww1A&feature=youtu.be
    Edited by MalakithAlamahdi on September 15, 2016 6:33PM
  • danno8
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    Sheuib wrote: »
    Sheuib wrote: »

    I currently wear 5 kag, 3-4 magnus and 3 willpower. I got a heavy chest and shoulders, everything with the impen trait (but I think making the 2 heavy pieces reinforced could be better). I got magicka enchants on all pieces and spell power on the jewelry. You can use 2 skoria for a bit more damage if you want.

    I use the spell power mundus and sit around 4.5- 4.8k spellpower buffed, with 1200 regen and 37k magicka.

    I have to throw the BS flag on this one. My main is a high elf magicka templar and I have ran gold versions of that same gear with max CP. I have never had close to that much spell power with buffs. So you are either bsing or cheating. So which is it?

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_025502.pngimg

    That + 348 from my weapon enchant is 4595 spell power. I still have 2 purple enchants on my rings, so that would buff it up a bit as well. I've seen it at 4.8k before but that might have been multiple weapon enchants at the same time being up (if that's possible) or a buff from another player, but this is kinda hard to make a screenshot off.

    But good to know i'm cheating, i guess you learn something new every day!

    Edit: Now with golden enchants, though it doesn't make much of a difference:

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_031824.pngpost images

    https://youtu.be/0t1arqZcfo0

    I used almost the same setup as what you said. Mine is all light but I have some pieces as divines which you stated you used all impen. I do not use the spell damage weapon enchants but even if you proc both of them you would not get the spell damage you are posting.

    Sure he would. Don't know why you guys are all over him. I get 3100 sp buffed on my heavy armor Fasallas/Transmutation setup. If I were to drop transmutation for 4 Magnus (+129 sp), which lets me complete my willpower set (+193) and use apprentice instead of Atronach (+166), then use Krags (instead of my Fasallas) for an extra +222 sp, all multiplied by 25% gets me up to 4000.

    Add a PvP 5% sp scroll bonus and there you have 4200.
  • Sheuib
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    danno8 wrote: »
    Sheuib wrote: »
    Sheuib wrote: »

    I currently wear 5 kag, 3-4 magnus and 3 willpower. I got a heavy chest and shoulders, everything with the impen trait (but I think making the 2 heavy pieces reinforced could be better). I got magicka enchants on all pieces and spell power on the jewelry. You can use 2 skoria for a bit more damage if you want.

    I use the spell power mundus and sit around 4.5- 4.8k spellpower buffed, with 1200 regen and 37k magicka.

    I have to throw the BS flag on this one. My main is a high elf magicka templar and I have ran gold versions of that same gear with max CP. I have never had close to that much spell power with buffs. So you are either bsing or cheating. So which is it?

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_025502.pngimg

    That + 348 from my weapon enchant is 4595 spell power. I still have 2 purple enchants on my rings, so that would buff it up a bit as well. I've seen it at 4.8k before but that might have been multiple weapon enchants at the same time being up (if that's possible) or a buff from another player, but this is kinda hard to make a screenshot off.

    But good to know i'm cheating, i guess you learn something new every day!

    Edit: Now with golden enchants, though it doesn't make much of a difference:

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_031824.pngpost images

    https://youtu.be/0t1arqZcfo0

    I used almost the same setup as what you said. Mine is all light but I have some pieces as divines which you stated you used all impen. I do not use the spell damage weapon enchants but even if you proc both of them you would not get the spell damage you are posting.

    Sure he would. Don't know why you guys are all over him. I get 3100 sp buffed on my heavy armor Fasallas/Transmutation setup. If I were to drop transmutation for 4 Magnus (+129 sp), which lets me complete my willpower set (+193) and use apprentice instead of Atronach (+166), then use Krags (instead of my Fasallas) for an extra +222 sp, all multiplied by 25% gets me up to 4000.

    Add a PvP 5% sp scroll bonus and there you have 4200.

    Here is the thing he originally stated he could get 4500 to 4800 spell damage. He didn't hit those numbers. Also, it is my opinion that people should not post numbers with buffs that they do not create themselves, i.e. the scroll buff.
  • danno8
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    Sheuib wrote: »
    danno8 wrote: »
    Sheuib wrote: »
    Sheuib wrote: »

    I currently wear 5 kag, 3-4 magnus and 3 willpower. I got a heavy chest and shoulders, everything with the impen trait (but I think making the 2 heavy pieces reinforced could be better). I got magicka enchants on all pieces and spell power on the jewelry. You can use 2 skoria for a bit more damage if you want.

    I use the spell power mundus and sit around 4.5- 4.8k spellpower buffed, with 1200 regen and 37k magicka.

    I have to throw the BS flag on this one. My main is a high elf magicka templar and I have ran gold versions of that same gear with max CP. I have never had close to that much spell power with buffs. So you are either bsing or cheating. So which is it?

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_025502.pngimg

    That + 348 from my weapon enchant is 4595 spell power. I still have 2 purple enchants on my rings, so that would buff it up a bit as well. I've seen it at 4.8k before but that might have been multiple weapon enchants at the same time being up (if that's possible) or a buff from another player, but this is kinda hard to make a screenshot off.

    But good to know i'm cheating, i guess you learn something new every day!

    Edit: Now with golden enchants, though it doesn't make much of a difference:

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_031824.pngpost images

    https://youtu.be/0t1arqZcfo0

    I used almost the same setup as what you said. Mine is all light but I have some pieces as divines which you stated you used all impen. I do not use the spell damage weapon enchants but even if you proc both of them you would not get the spell damage you are posting.

    Sure he would. Don't know why you guys are all over him. I get 3100 sp buffed on my heavy armor Fasallas/Transmutation setup. If I were to drop transmutation for 4 Magnus (+129 sp), which lets me complete my willpower set (+193) and use apprentice instead of Atronach (+166), then use Krags (instead of my Fasallas) for an extra +222 sp, all multiplied by 25% gets me up to 4000.

    Add a PvP 5% sp scroll bonus and there you have 4200.

    Here is the thing he originally stated he could get 4500 to 4800 spell damage. He didn't hit those numbers. Also, it is my opinion that people should not post numbers with buffs that they do not create themselves, i.e. the scroll buff.

    Fair enough. I agree all tests should be done outside of Cyrodiil.
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    Sheuib wrote: »
    danno8 wrote: »
    Sheuib wrote: »
    Sheuib wrote: »

    I currently wear 5 kag, 3-4 magnus and 3 willpower. I got a heavy chest and shoulders, everything with the impen trait (but I think making the 2 heavy pieces reinforced could be better). I got magicka enchants on all pieces and spell power on the jewelry. You can use 2 skoria for a bit more damage if you want.

    I use the spell power mundus and sit around 4.5- 4.8k spellpower buffed, with 1200 regen and 37k magicka.

    I have to throw the BS flag on this one. My main is a high elf magicka templar and I have ran gold versions of that same gear with max CP. I have never had close to that much spell power with buffs. So you are either bsing or cheating. So which is it?

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_025502.pngimg

    That + 348 from my weapon enchant is 4595 spell power. I still have 2 purple enchants on my rings, so that would buff it up a bit as well. I've seen it at 4.8k before but that might have been multiple weapon enchants at the same time being up (if that's possible) or a buff from another player, but this is kinda hard to make a screenshot off.

    But good to know i'm cheating, i guess you learn something new every day!

    Edit: Now with golden enchants, though it doesn't make much of a difference:

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_031824.pngpost images

    https://youtu.be/0t1arqZcfo0

    I used almost the same setup as what you said. Mine is all light but I have some pieces as divines which you stated you used all impen. I do not use the spell damage weapon enchants but even if you proc both of them you would not get the spell damage you are posting.

    Sure he would. Don't know why you guys are all over him. I get 3100 sp buffed on my heavy armor Fasallas/Transmutation setup. If I were to drop transmutation for 4 Magnus (+129 sp), which lets me complete my willpower set (+193) and use apprentice instead of Atronach (+166), then use Krags (instead of my Fasallas) for an extra +222 sp, all multiplied by 25% gets me up to 4000.

    Add a PvP 5% sp scroll bonus and there you have 4200.

    Here is the thing he originally stated he could get 4500 to 4800 spell damage. He didn't hit those numbers. Also, it is my opinion that people should not post numbers with buffs that they do not create themselves, i.e. the scroll buff.

    I said 4.5k -4.8k, which i do hit. 4.5k is buffed in Cyrodiil (we're on the pvp forums here so i test in in the pvp zone), and i hit 4.8k before, which was probably with the offensive scroll. The reason it doesn't show the 4.5k in the pic of video is because by the time you open the panel the second enchant is worn off as they don't proc at the same time, even with dual wield.. I used to have an addon that showed my stats during combat and it got over 4.5k. The pics and video are with one since that's all i can show like that, hench why i gave you the spell damage it adds to count it up with.

    I do have the CA buff but in pvp you got that up 80% of the time (i do at least) so that's just a normal buff for me there, it lasts 10 minutes after all. Epecially since you can solo a recourse in 2 minutes and get the buff if you actually are out of combat all the time. In IC you get it from the small flag which takes you under 1 min to clear.

    If it was a pve forum for a pve build i wouldn't have said 4.5k since you wouldn't have the CA buff. But even there you would get close actually since you'd be using devines and not impen.
    Edited by MalakithAlamahdi on September 16, 2016 1:58AM
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    danno8 wrote: »
    Sheuib wrote: »
    Sheuib wrote: »

    I currently wear 5 kag, 3-4 magnus and 3 willpower. I got a heavy chest and shoulders, everything with the impen trait (but I think making the 2 heavy pieces reinforced could be better). I got magicka enchants on all pieces and spell power on the jewelry. You can use 2 skoria for a bit more damage if you want.

    I use the spell power mundus and sit around 4.5- 4.8k spellpower buffed, with 1200 regen and 37k magicka.

    I have to throw the BS flag on this one. My main is a high elf magicka templar and I have ran gold versions of that same gear with max CP. I have never had close to that much spell power with buffs. So you are either bsing or cheating. So which is it?

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_025502.pngimg

    That + 348 from my weapon enchant is 4595 spell power. I still have 2 purple enchants on my rings, so that would buff it up a bit as well. I've seen it at 4.8k before but that might have been multiple weapon enchants at the same time being up (if that's possible) or a buff from another player, but this is kinda hard to make a screenshot off.

    But good to know i'm cheating, i guess you learn something new every day!

    Edit: Now with golden enchants, though it doesn't make much of a difference:

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_031824.pngpost images

    https://youtu.be/0t1arqZcfo0

    I used almost the same setup as what you said. Mine is all light but I have some pieces as divines which you stated you used all impen. I do not use the spell damage weapon enchants but even if you proc both of them you would not get the spell damage you are posting.

    Sure he would. Don't know why you guys are all over him. I get 3100 sp buffed on my heavy armor Fasallas/Transmutation setup. If I were to drop transmutation for 4 Magnus (+129 sp), which lets me complete my willpower set (+193) and use apprentice instead of Atronach (+166), then use Krags (instead of my Fasallas) for an extra +222 sp, all multiplied by 25% gets me up to 4000.

    Add a PvP 5% sp scroll bonus and there you have 4200.

    Stacking spell damage is very easy on a templar compaired to other classes, you could probably go even higher if you wanted to. The only reason why it doesnt say 4.5k on the picture is because it's impossible for me to make a picture with both weapon enchants active, since the timeframe is a sec or so. I used to have an combat addon that showed your stats while you're in combat it it clearly got over 4.5k during most of the fight. That's why i added the numbers of the second enchant. It's kinda pointless to lie about it when you try to help someone with a build.

    Anyway ,thanks for defending me a bit.
  • danno8
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    danno8 wrote: »
    Sheuib wrote: »
    Sheuib wrote: »

    I currently wear 5 kag, 3-4 magnus and 3 willpower. I got a heavy chest and shoulders, everything with the impen trait (but I think making the 2 heavy pieces reinforced could be better). I got magicka enchants on all pieces and spell power on the jewelry. You can use 2 skoria for a bit more damage if you want.

    I use the spell power mundus and sit around 4.5- 4.8k spellpower buffed, with 1200 regen and 37k magicka.

    I have to throw the BS flag on this one. My main is a high elf magicka templar and I have ran gold versions of that same gear with max CP. I have never had close to that much spell power with buffs. So you are either bsing or cheating. So which is it?

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_025502.pngimg

    That + 348 from my weapon enchant is 4595 spell power. I still have 2 purple enchants on my rings, so that would buff it up a bit as well. I've seen it at 4.8k before but that might have been multiple weapon enchants at the same time being up (if that's possible) or a buff from another player, but this is kinda hard to make a screenshot off.

    But good to know i'm cheating, i guess you learn something new every day!

    Edit: Now with golden enchants, though it doesn't make much of a difference:

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_031824.pngpost images

    https://youtu.be/0t1arqZcfo0

    I used almost the same setup as what you said. Mine is all light but I have some pieces as divines which you stated you used all impen. I do not use the spell damage weapon enchants but even if you proc both of them you would not get the spell damage you are posting.

    Sure he would. Don't know why you guys are all over him. I get 3100 sp buffed on my heavy armor Fasallas/Transmutation setup. If I were to drop transmutation for 4 Magnus (+129 sp), which lets me complete my willpower set (+193) and use apprentice instead of Atronach (+166), then use Krags (instead of my Fasallas) for an extra +222 sp, all multiplied by 25% gets me up to 4000.

    Add a PvP 5% sp scroll bonus and there you have 4200.

    Stacking spell damage is very easy on a templar compaired to other classes, you could probably go even higher if you wanted to. The only reason why it doesnt say 4.5k on the picture is because it's impossible for me to make a picture with both weapon enchants active, since the timeframe is a sec or so. I used to have an combat addon that showed your stats while you're in combat it it clearly got over 4.5k during most of the fight. That's why i added the numbers of the second enchant. It's kinda pointless to lie about it when you try to help someone with a build.

    Anyway ,thanks for defending me a bit.

    After Dual Wield light attacking for 5 minutes I can never get both enchants to proc at the same time. I actually don't think it's possible unless you use the Weapon Enchant trait.
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    danno8 wrote: »
    danno8 wrote: »
    Sheuib wrote: »
    Sheuib wrote: »

    I currently wear 5 kag, 3-4 magnus and 3 willpower. I got a heavy chest and shoulders, everything with the impen trait (but I think making the 2 heavy pieces reinforced could be better). I got magicka enchants on all pieces and spell power on the jewelry. You can use 2 skoria for a bit more damage if you want.

    I use the spell power mundus and sit around 4.5- 4.8k spellpower buffed, with 1200 regen and 37k magicka.

    I have to throw the BS flag on this one. My main is a high elf magicka templar and I have ran gold versions of that same gear with max CP. I have never had close to that much spell power with buffs. So you are either bsing or cheating. So which is it?

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_025502.pngimg

    That + 348 from my weapon enchant is 4595 spell power. I still have 2 purple enchants on my rings, so that would buff it up a bit as well. I've seen it at 4.8k before but that might have been multiple weapon enchants at the same time being up (if that's possible) or a buff from another player, but this is kinda hard to make a screenshot off.

    But good to know i'm cheating, i guess you learn something new every day!

    Edit: Now with golden enchants, though it doesn't make much of a difference:

    [img][/img]Screenshot_20160915_031824.pngpost images

    https://youtu.be/0t1arqZcfo0

    I used almost the same setup as what you said. Mine is all light but I have some pieces as divines which you stated you used all impen. I do not use the spell damage weapon enchants but even if you proc both of them you would not get the spell damage you are posting.

    Sure he would. Don't know why you guys are all over him. I get 3100 sp buffed on my heavy armor Fasallas/Transmutation setup. If I were to drop transmutation for 4 Magnus (+129 sp), which lets me complete my willpower set (+193) and use apprentice instead of Atronach (+166), then use Krags (instead of my Fasallas) for an extra +222 sp, all multiplied by 25% gets me up to 4000.

    Add a PvP 5% sp scroll bonus and there you have 4200.

    Stacking spell damage is very easy on a templar compaired to other classes, you could probably go even higher if you wanted to. The only reason why it doesnt say 4.5k on the picture is because it's impossible for me to make a picture with both weapon enchants active, since the timeframe is a sec or so. I used to have an combat addon that showed your stats while you're in combat it it clearly got over 4.5k during most of the fight. That's why i added the numbers of the second enchant. It's kinda pointless to lie about it when you try to help someone with a build.

    Anyway ,thanks for defending me a bit.

    After Dual Wield light attacking for 5 minutes I can never get both enchants to proc at the same time. I actually don't think it's possible unless you use the Weapon Enchant trait.

    Yea, i've been googling to make sure myself as well, i think it was a bug with an addon that just calculated both ontop eachoter. If the addon was at fault then the spell damage is around 4.3k instead of 4.5k. I read that the enchants are a but unpredictable on the duel wield weapons. Some say that heavy attack can proc the offhand, others say it's usually the skills. I might try out the enchant trait and see how that goes, but it's probably not much better (or even worse) then a second sharpened sword. Having 2 different enchants seem to be better, guess ill put disease on my offhand then.
  • Sheuib
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    Here is why I think numbers should only be stated with self buffs.

    1 If someone is putting together a gear set most of the time they are not in Cyrodiil. So if someone is coping your build they will be confused on why they are not getting the same numbers.

    2 You will not always have those buffs so don't make people think that is the norm.
  • MalakithAlamahdi
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    Sheuib wrote: »
    Here is why I think numbers should only be stated with self buffs.

    1 If someone is putting together a gear set most of the time they are not in Cyrodiil. So if someone is coping your build they will be confused on why they are not getting the same numbers.

    2 You will not always have those buffs so don't make people think that is the norm.

    This being a question about a PvP build I actually think he will be in Cyrodiil most of the time, maybe not for putting on the gear if that's what you mean. This set works perfectly fine for PvE as well. And stats will always be different depending on the zone you're in, so I built my build around the zone it's meant to be played in.

    I got CA up almost all the time, so does anyone else I play with, as I play to cap keeps, outposts, flags etc. Since we're talking about it being buffed in Cyrodiil I take all the easy obtainable ones. But next time I'll add it the info for a bit more clarity. The pictures are without any scroll buffs though since you can't obtain that alone.

    I only post it for some ideas, it I wanted to give people a build to just copy like a lot of streamers do I would make a video on it, bit this is for as I know a fairly known build, I've been running it since Thieves guild.

    I can also see why you think like this though, this is the first build post I posted anyway so need to get used to how they do it on the forums, usually I only help or give my advice in game but you can communicate a bit easier there. I'll edit the first post to prevent some confusion.
  • worsttankever
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    @MalakithAlamahdi you backed up your claims with not just pics - but a vid. I'm impressed! Way to man up!!
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