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The pvp stamina meta.
KingYogi415
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Im so sick of being 1-shot by a stamina light attack. How can us weak magicka classes even begin to compete?
Edited by KingYogi415 on September 14, 2016 8:38PM https://youtu.be/Vv247laacaU
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Robbmrp✭✭✭✭✭
✭Your joking right?! You've got 9 guys hitting you in that video.....
Good thing you had all that HA on, you lasted a lot longer than any magicka based character running 1HA/1MA and 5 light..... NA Server - Kildair1 -
Syiccal✭✭✭✭✭
✭And I'm repeatedly told in these forums that stam is OP at the min.
Magika templars are untouchable in even the least unskilled hands4 -
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Khaos_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭And said Templar did crap damage. Your point is ? Just message a steamer so MAG Templar healing is nerfed again. Be sure that Vigor is superior to BoL.Edited by Khaos_Bane on September 14, 2016 8:56PM2 -
KingYogi415✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Khaos_Bane wrote: »And said Templar did crap damage. Your point is ?
It's a support build like the video title says. And my point is I think magicka vs stam is more balanced then alot of people seem to suggest.
Everything has it's trade off.2 -
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✭KingYogi415 wrote: »Khaos_Bane wrote: »And said Templar did crap damage. Your point is ?
It's a support build like the video title says. And my point is I think magicka vs stam is more balanced then alot of people seem to suggest.
Everything has it's trade off.
Your video is proof of nothing on class balance, and misdirection. It's a perfect example of framing one specific fight and applying it to all MAG builds. It's dumb.
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AtmaDarkwolf✭✭✭remove new sets, maelstrom weapons, and stam and magicka are about equal footing in pvp.
Says something needs to be 'looked at'0 -
Magus✭✭✭✭✭Reactive/malubeth/transmutation templar with bats. The main reason you lived so long was the sorc spamming healing ward on you while everyone ignored him though.Duraeon / Maoh
Former Emperor of Haderus, Trueflame, and Azura's Star
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✭✭✭KingYogi415 wrote: »Im so sick of being 1-shot by a stamina light attack. How can us weak magicka classes even begin to compete?https://youtu.be/Vv247laacaU
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KingYogi415✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Khaos_Bane wrote: »KingYogi415 wrote: »Khaos_Bane wrote: »And said Templar did crap damage. Your point is ?
It's a support build like the video title says. And my point is I think magicka vs stam is more balanced then alot of people seem to suggest.
Everything has it's trade off.
Your video is proof of nothing on class balance, and misdirection. It's a perfect example of framing one specific fight and applying it to all MAG builds. It's dumb.
The irony is your still implying stam is always better then magic, when is completly untrue.
There are tons of amazing magic builds for pvp. This is just one example. You ever look at a leaderboard? Over 50% percent of the time the #1 spot on every faction is held by a bomb blade. Sometimes with millions more then then the #2 guy.0 -
mb10✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭All I saw was someone constantly blocking, healing themselves and using radiant destruction.
Nothing new or impressive here.6 -
Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭HURR DURR, I'm so clever. I'm gonna take the one powerful magicka spec that is worthy of the title "broken" and post of video of it to show that stamina isn't imbalanced.
Yes, you can make magicka builds that can tank a ton of people and you chose to highlight the most broken one.
That doesn't mean this game isn't horribly biased towards stam on the most fundamental level. Next patch with the new S&B ultimate, there will be tons more perma-blocking tanky magicka builds that hit like wet noodles.- Game is broken in multiple ways.
- Stam is still stronger on balance.
- Champion system is terrible and is why some specs like Magplar can be really strong.
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✭✭✭✭✭Magplar is the only magicka class that can even compare to stam builds at the moment.
Poor mag dk and mag nb
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I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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itsfatbass✭✭✭✭✭You would have died very shortly into the fight had it not been for the ward cast on you, twice. The rest was RNG and luck!~PC/NA~ Magblade, Tankanist, Healplar, Stamcro, Oakensorc, Healden, Tanknight ~PLUR~0 -
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✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Poor mag dk and mag nb
I wouldn't feel too bad for magicka nightblades. Do some research and you'll see them holding their own quite well.
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Actually_Goku✭✭✭✭Magplars are an exception to the rule of said meta. They are more or less stronger than any stam build in PVP so this is a troll fail. Especially taking into account you casting Radiant on people near full health
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✭brandonv516 wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Poor mag dk and mag nb
I wouldn't feel too bad for magicka nightblades. Do some research and you'll see them holding their own quite well.
Magic nightblade is by far the worse class for 1v1 and the only class it's better than solo open world is mag dk, it can be really good in certain situations but it's becoming more of a situational class. But it's not the class it's the meta that's giving the mag NB problems. it's too weak to snares and all of the abilities are bugged. It's basically a mag sorc just not as good0 -
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✭✭Actually_Goku wrote: »Magplars are an exception to the rule of said meta. They are more or less stronger than any stam build in PVP so this is a troll fail. Especially taking into account you casting Radiant on people near full health
This is known.
I was using RD to poke people and pull the whole group to me. First day with the build, and this was a stress test. Imagine when I add my tri-food and immovable pots.
You sound like you know so much about pvp. can you post some 1vx videos for me to study?
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✭spamming radiant at full health. leeelelolwrht89536934jrr0r. Every templar nowadays.Edited by Kalante on September 15, 2016 2:26AM1 -
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✭✭Did anyone read my coment about emps being bomb blades like half the time? If magic is so bad why does this one MAGIC class seem to be able to earn more AP faster then any other playstyle in the game?
The sorc in the video with me melting people, and keeping my alive was magic as well.
Things are more balaned then they have ever been. Learn to adapt or die!0 -
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✭KingYogi415 wrote: »Did anyone read my coment about emps being bomb blades like half the time? If magic is so bad why does this one MAGIC class seem to be able to earn more AP faster then any other playstyle in the game?
The sorc in the video with me melting people, and keeping my alive was magic as well.
Things are more balaned then they have ever been. Learn to adapt or die!
Bomb blade is not that good though. it's a beast at getting AP and ganking in IC but that's pretty much it. AP doesn't determine skill in this game. I do well on my magblade, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have problems and right now there are classes and specs that will beat me because I'm a magblade whether I outplay them or not. I except this because I like to play the class. Magicka can be played and you can do well you just have to except that you will be at a disadvantage in PvP. Especially if you like to play solo. Excluding magplar3 -
KingYogi415✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭How can you admit almost every emp these days are bomblades then say they are "not that good though."
Do you think a class that can blow up 20 people solo should be better then other classes in a fair 1v1?
Magblades can gank just fine as well, And are needed in zergs for fear.
I see people cry all day on the forum about stam when magic nightblade is truely the AP king.
Maybe when reverse slice is better then proxy det stam would be better then magic.Edited by KingYogi415 on September 15, 2016 3:17AM1
