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[PvE] Can we have Two Handers to count as 2 item pieces already?

  • ParaNostram
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    No. Everyone already uses them anyways, so no. Definitely not. Nuh uh. Your idea is foolish.
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  • ParaNostram
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    Why is everybody assuming I am talking about PvP

    Because PvE changes effect and screw over PvP. So whether you're talking about PvP or not, it effects PvP.
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  • Kammakazi
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    Why is everybody assuming I am talking about PvP

    Because PvE changes effect and screw over PvP. So whether you're talking about PvP or not, it effects PvP.

    Oh and you think PvP doesn't do the same?

    Y'all want to:
    • Nerf Radiant
    • Nerf Rushed Ceremony

    And you guys already ruined:
    • Stamina regeneration when blocking
    • Dodge roll cost increase if used consecutively
    • Reduced damage shield duration
    • Bolt Escape cost increase if used consecutively
    • Magicka Detonation and Proximity Detonation damage nerf
    • Certain item sets
    Edited by Kammakazi on September 14, 2016 8:08PM
  • dday3six
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    Is this going to come with it taking twice the mats to make and refine 2H weapons?
  • Kammakazi
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    dday3six wrote: »
    Is this going to come with it taking twice the mats to make and refine 2H weapons?

    16 Tempering Alloys or Rosins

    God help us.
  • acw37162
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    kongkim wrote: »
    There is just a huge advantage in duel or sword and bord as you can get a set bonus more.


    Yeah, no 2h over performs

    Kammakazi wrote: »
    Why is everybody assuming I am talking about PvP

    Because 2H overpreforms in PVP, and the suggestion is a buff to already the strongest arguably weapon set up in the game.

  • Khaos_Bane
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    Master_Kas wrote: »
    Why only Twohander and not destro/resto ? :trollface:

    Nope.

    Destro / Resto ? What are those ?
  • acw37162
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    Soundwave wrote: »
    I know this is later to the topic, but anyways why dont we have fist weapons. I think it could awesome skill line.

    It would be but since it's not 2h is would languish in medicrity until it got a Malestrom weapon which would buff it into the stratosphere.
  • oibam
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    I want 2Hander + Shield (block casting wrecking blow) on 1st bar and dual bow (ranged steel tornado) on 2nd bar.

    Also, I have 10 Fingers. I want 10 slots for rings.
  • Egonieser
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    It all comes down to balance. Dual Wield has worse overall skills and utility, and S&B has inferior DPS, but you have the bonus of having a extra set bonus to make up for it.
    2handed weapons have much superior skills and passives (and before anyone anyways - it's true, DW only works for stamNB who mostly use class abilities and use DW for the extra damage/slot bonus, not so much for other Stamina builds), A staff has excellent ranged damage, the passives are kinda meh, but the heavy attacks are the hardest hitting in the game and also offer excellent weaving capabilities and constant ultimate generation which is not always easy for a DW/S&B magicka build as it would require to be at melee range at all times to constantly generate ultimate (yes there are other ways to generate ultimate but they are situational, thus does not count as reliable regeneration)

    It's all about the overall balance and bigger picture, people should stop comparing and singling out specific weapons but look at it from a general viewpoint and try to understand that if something is good in one way - will be penalised in another.
    Say they do make 2handeds as a 2-set item, but you should expect to see overall nerfs to the weapon abilities and passives to compensate for that change or everybody under the sun will be running that particular setup as it would have no downsides.
    Edited by Egonieser on September 14, 2016 8:32PM
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  • Grymmoire
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    Kartalin wrote: »
    Some days I really miss the Lol button...

    Yes and an additional Idiocy button too!

    *Btw, I support 2 slots on all 2H weapons, so there. :* *

    Edited by Grymmoire on September 14, 2016 8:41PM
  • Dagoth_Rac
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    2H is useless in PvE. Does even a single endgame PvE build use 2H? They need to do something to help it. Giving it an extra set bonus does sound like a general change that will impact too much of the game. Maybe something with it's bleed DoTs starting small but increasing over time? Other players will purge DoTs, bosses will not. So maybe that could be a way to increase sustained DPS in long boss fights without adding more burst to PvP?

    And staves need a boost in both PvE and PvP.
  • dday3six
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    dday3six wrote: »
    Is this going to come with it taking twice the mats to make and refine 2H weapons?

    16 Tempering Alloys or Rosins

    God help us.

    Yeah then let's think about content loot drops as well. The solution would not be to have 2H weapons count as two pieces, but rather have all weapons be two actual pieces. You can't have DW users forced double dip in the RNG cesspool while 2H users get away with doing it once.
  • Sheezabeast
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    No, think of it this way, in real life a full tang sword isn't really two pieces....you enchant the blade, its a 2 handed weapon with one main piece. Wouldn't make sense to me.

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