Make Malestorm weapons sellable in guild stores.

Preyfar · September 2016

They don't need to make Maelstrom weapons BoE. They just need to remove junk traits from the weapons so people aren't grinding it non-stop in the hopes/prayers of getting a weapon with a trait that's even remotely useful. Charged doesn't do anything to Maelstrom weapons. Powered is useful on one item. Get rid of those two (except for Resto) and Maelstrom will be a much nicer place to grind.

And, maybe, up Nirnhoned weapon damage to 15% on gold to offset the ridiculous imbalance that Sharpened weapons have over them.

Dragonnord · September 2016

XDragonDoomX wrote: »

CarbonX wrote: »

xskinzcity wrote: »

What is malestorm?

It's when there is lightning and heavy rain and men start falling from the sky.

you mean this ?

HOLY COW! LMAO!!!

Qbiken · September 2016

I will keep my word from another post and report this. The suggestion is so incredibly stupid....... If you don´t run vmsa, you won´t get the weapons, end of story.

And I will also asume you haven´t completed vmsa but still want to be able to perform maximum dps in PvE......what is next, a free Maelstrom weapon with every new character you create???

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO · September 2016

I haven't completed vMSA yet (very close to completion), but the satisfaction of receiving something rare for completing a relatively very hard solo dungeon will be diminished if those weapons become sell-able in guild stores.

Even if by some strange chance of faith they become sell-able, I bet that most people will not be able to afford them because I would personally won't sell such a weapon for less than a million gold.

If they become trad-able, this dungeon should be restricted of being able to complete once per week per account, as many people will have an account with 10 maxed out characters farming vMSA only for the sole purpose of selling the weapons.

bebynnag · September 2016

the only people who have a justifiable reason for wanting to buy maelstrom weapons (in my opinion) are dedicated tanks & healers.

but since Master swords & master resto staves, are considered the superior option, and these are obtainable from Dragonstar which is a 4 person base game trial.

then there is no justifiable reason for OP's suggestion as I see it.

Shader_Shibes · September 2016

olsborg wrote: »

Master weapons too, I mean, pure pvper might do some pve, but VDA isnt exactly everydaypve, and forcing pvpers to do this content to get weapons that are this good for pvp, bestinslot, is unfair imo.

Will master weapons drop from campaign rewards? I remember ages ago they did. Remember getting a few back in the day.

Edziu · September 2016

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Master weapons too, I mean, pure pvper might do some pve, but VDA isnt exactly everydaypve, and forcing pvpers to do this content to get weapons that are this good for pvp, bestinslot, is unfair imo.

Will master weapons drop from campaign rewards? I remember ages ago they did. Remember getting a few back in the day.

yes, ages ago I remember when I also got master weapon on end campaign

but also 1 thing, dont last time weakly vDSA, I was on leaderboards for reward...and what I got? insted of master weapon from this arena got *** well-fitted heavy pauldron lunar bastion.....what a sick crap

raidentenshu_ESO · September 2016

Qbiken wrote: »

I will keep my word from another post and report this. The suggestion is so incredibly stupid....... If you don´t run vmsa, you won´t get the weapons, end of story.

And I will also asume you haven´t completed vmsa but still want to be able to perform maximum dps in PvE......what is next, a free Maelstrom weapon with every new character you create???

Sight. I'm not asking for free stuffs. All that I'm asking for is to have the freedom to buy worthy items from the guild stores because right now there is simply not enough good and useful items that are worth buying in the guild store these days. All that I'm really am buying these days is to refill my food stock, and that is it.

All the useful items that people really truly want are unattainable to get from the store because of the stupid b.o.p system ZOS has going on.

God forbid if you have any future Plumbing issues. Don't call a plumber if you have Plumbing issues in your house. You do it yourself despite your lack of knowledge of the plumbing system in your household, just do it yourself and wish for the best.

Mojmir · September 2016

Lol

sdtlc · September 2016

You buy you'r Mealstrom whatever and feel very fancy
You see that all the other also bought them
You don't feel fancy anymore and open a post in the forums

Nope, and left out above is that the price will drop and the peeps won't earn enough anymore.

Lord_Eomer · September 2016

Totalitarian wrote: »

Nope, you've got to prove that you're worthy of those weapons. You need to earn power, not buy it.

*insert political joke*

To the hell with proving yourself.

I saw people never doing VMSA, may be 5% are only doing it and rest 95% are suffering.

Stoopid_Nwah · September 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Qbiken wrote: »

I will keep my word from another post and report this. The suggestion is so incredibly stupid....... If you don´t run vmsa, you won´t get the weapons, end of story.

And I will also asume you haven´t completed vmsa but still want to be able to perform maximum dps in PvE......what is next, a free Maelstrom weapon with every new character you create???

Sight. I'm not asking for free stuffs. All that I'm asking for is to have the freedom to buy worthy items from the guild stores because right now there is simply not enough good and useful items that are worth buying in the guild store these days. All that I'm really am buying these days is to refill my food stock, and that is it.

All the useful items that people really truly want are unattainable to get from the store because of the stupid b.o.p system ZOS has going on.

God forbid if you have any future Plumbing issues. Don't call a plumber if you have Plumbing issues in your house. You do it yourself despite your lack of knowledge of the plumbing system in your household, just do it yourself and wish for the best.

I don't have a clue what point you're trying to make with that last paragraph, but I am thoroughly entertained.

Memnock · September 2016

To all the people that are opposed to obtaining the weapons from malestrom in another way other that bashing your head against a wall i would like to say this:

I have no luck with RNG drops , to give you an example i farmed the skoria helm for a month and a half and i still did not get a divines one and in the end the only way i got to complete that set was to buy an infused one from the cirodil vendor.

I completed vMSA 1 time just to get the title ( no luck on a staff , got another thing , can't remember what since i really didn't care about anything else) , but that was it for me , since i really want to spend my time playing with other people in this game. I ran Dragon Star arena for the master weapons after they got bumped up to cp 160 to get the stuff that i wanted , but again , that content is designed with a group in mind so the mind numbing boredom of farming those things was cut in half by having company while doing that thing.

I am already doing veteran content and me along with my guild mates are progressing through vMOL as well , so the weapons are not 100% needed for the content , but the issue is that having the best weapons in the game barred by RNG, diminishes the pleasure of running that particular content and to a small degree hinders the smoothness of content runs that people would have otherwise.

If the there was a guaranteed way to get what you want through endless grinding of that place , like a token system or some sort of currency that could be exchanged to what you wanted at the end of the dungeon , then i would be super happy to do it over and over again , but with a system that is based on luck ( and with my complete lack of this quality ), i do not see myself going in there ever again and having the best weapons in the game randomly drop just for the select few who are willing to grind their brains out, is not fair.

So as far as i can see , there are 4 solutions to resolving this problem :

1) make a currency system similar to the stuff that drops in ICP and WGT , gather 150 or 200 or whatever amount the devs deem necessary and once you have that , you go to a guy and get your weapon
2) make a token system where the last boss this the dungeon drops an item that you can exchange it to what weapon you wish for
3) redesign the content and make it a 4 man raid just like dragonstar arena , where you can keep your current RNG dependent system in place
4) leave the current system in place , but make all the weapons BOE and allow the farmers to profit from their work and people that don't want to grind , get their thing as well.

In any case , the system as it is now , can't be left alone , vMSA is a single player experience in an MMO , that provides what are currently the best weapons in the game and is based on a system that forces players to do content that just aggravates all sides of the argument to some degree.

Qbiken · September 2016

Memnock wrote: »

To all the people that are opposed to obtaining the weapons from malestrom in another way other that bashing your head against a wall i would like to say this:

I have no luck with RNG drops , to give you an example i farmed the skoria helm for a month and a half and i still did not get a divines one and in the end the only way i got to complete that set was to buy an infused one from the cirodil vendor.

I completed vMSA 1 time just to get the title ( no luck on a staff , got another thing , can't remember what since i really didn't care about anything else) , but that was it for me , since i really want to spend my time playing with other people in this game. I ran Dragon Star arena for the master weapons after they got bumped up to cp 160 to get the stuff that i wanted , but again , that content is designed with a group in mind so the mind numbing boredom of farming those things was cut in half by having company while doing that thing.

I am already doing veteran content and me along with my guild mates are progressing through vMOL as well , so the weapons are not 100% needed for the content , but the issue is that having the best weapons in the game barred by RNG, diminishes the pleasure of running that particular content and to a small degree hinders the smoothness of content runs that people would have otherwise.

If the there was a guaranteed way to get what you want through endless grinding of that place , like a token system or some sort of currency that could be exchanged to what you wanted at the end of the dungeon , then i would be super happy to do it over and over again , but with a system that is based on luck ( and with my complete lack of this quality ), i do not see myself going in there ever again and having the best weapons in the game randomly drop just for the select few who are willing to grind their brains out, is not fair.

So as far as i can see , there are 4 solutions to resolving this problem :

1) make a currency system similar to the stuff that drops in ICP and WGT , gather 150 or 200 or whatever amount the devs deem necessary and once you have that , you go to a guy and get your weapon
2) make a token system where the last boss this the dungeon drops an item that you can exchange it to what weapon you wish for
3) redesign the content and make it a 4 man raid just like dragonstar arena , where you can keep your current RNG dependent system in place
4) leave the current system in place , but make all the weapons BOE and allow the farmers to profit from their work and people that don't want to grind , get their thing as well.

In any case , the system as it is now , can't be left alone , vMSA is a single player experience in an MMO , that provides what are currently the best weapons in the game and is based on a system that forces players to do content that just aggravates all sides of the argument to some degree.

Solo content in a mmo isn´t an issue. It adds some variety to the game. Of those suggestions you make #1 and #2 (which is somewhat similiar to me) are good suggestions but need to be implimented in the right way. #3: Already have DSA, no need for another copy. #4 Just no

EsoRecon · September 2016

This thread angers me.

Joysheeped · September 2016

I have to say no because of the nature of the weapons; still, as player who constantly runs vMA I would love to see something in the last chest which can be sold for a certain amount of gold (to vendors/ players) to cover some of my trials' expenses.

Qbiken · September 2016

Joysheeped wrote: »

I have to say no because of the nature of the weapons; still, as player who constantly runs vMA I would love to see something in the last chest which can be sold for a certain amount of gold (to vendors/ players) to cover some of my trials' expenses.

You mean like the 10k stuff that drops from vetrials??

raidentenshu_ESO · September 2016

Joysheeped wrote: »

I have to say no because of the nature of the weapons; still, as player who constantly runs vMA I would love to see something in the last chest which can be sold for a certain amount of gold (to vendors/ players) to cover some of my trials' expenses.

So the player who worked hard to get his weapons shouldn't be allowed to do what he/she pleases with them? Even selling it? What happen to complete ownership of items in this game? Seems like you don't quite own them outright even when you spent a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time getting it.

Ch4mpTW · September 2016

No... Just... No.

Totalitarian wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Master weapons too, I mean, pure pvper might do some pve, but VDA isnt exactly everydaypve, and forcing pvpers to do this content to get weapons that are this good for pvp, bestinslot, is unfair imo.

I'd be fine with ZOS adding MA and Master weapons to PVP leaderboard loot tables.

But I don't know how well that sits with everyone else.

Opinions?

No thanks.

OneKhajiitCrimeWave · September 2016

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Why? It's simple.

Phase 1: Malestorm player wants to make money and still continue to play Malestorm.
Phase 2: Normal player like me don't want to play Malestorm yet has the gold to purchase the weapon.
Phase 3: $$$$$$$$ Profit $$$$$$$$

Everyone wins.

Khajiit always says, if kitten can't complete Maelstrom, then kitten is not ready for Maelstrom weapons

Also, if kitten cannot spell Maelstrom, then kitten is definitely not ready for Maelstrom weapons

Schemering · September 2016

I will gladly give maelstrom weapons with good traits away to people that did it multiple times but every time got useless weapons with bad traits but i would not sell them; i am very happy with the current policy of zos that you need to do the content if you want the gear. A token system with tokens you get for finishing a run would be a good idea imo that way people that already finished it can get the type of weapon they want.

Bandit1215 · September 2016

Edziu wrote: »

olsborg wrote: »

Master weapons too, I mean, pure pvper might do some pve, but VDA isnt exactly everydaypve, and forcing pvpers to do this content to get weapons that are this good for pvp, bestinslot, is unfair imo.

yes, this is also this thing, most of pvp players are just pvp....they are also to lazy, dont to go pve to lvl undaunted for passive % max stats by armor type so they also arnt ablo to do any trial on normal mode....I am pve and pvp player but pvp players...they are also much and most of them will have problem with normal dung on gold/sivler pledge + BoP all items on trials, dung etc in next patch...next thing killing them, forcing them to do pve when thet dont want it and faster will out from the game than farm these items

I am a pretty active PvPer and I do both pledges and VMA as well as trials, and guess what? It's easy as hell other than vMA. The only challenging content in the game right now is vet trials and vMA.

NordSwordnBoard · September 2016

I'm still working on vma, and I'm also in no rush to try and beat it until after rng changes.

There are lots of changes that can make vma better, but selling the weapons would lessen the number of people trying the content, especially those with a purpose of getting more than the title/achievement. In-game exclusive items are cool because they cant be bought with crowns or gold. Only bought with sweat and tears by the bucket.

We can lessen some of the qq with a token system, and people will probably come back again more willingly if they know they will get the next thing on their list.

raidentenshu_ESO · September 2016

OneKhajiitCrimeWave wrote: »

raidentenshu_ESO wrote: »

Why? It's simple.

Phase 1: Malestorm player wants to make money and still continue to play Malestorm.
Phase 2: Normal player like me don't want to play Malestorm yet has the gold to purchase the weapon.
Phase 3: $$$$$$$$ Profit $$$$$$$$

Everyone wins.

Khajiit always says, if kitten can't complete Maelstrom, then kitten is not ready for Maelstrom weapons

Also, if kitten cannot spell Maelstrom, then kitten is definitely not ready for Maelstrom weapons

{snip}

You do realize that this is GAME and not Real life? The Maelstrom weapon is not a gun that requires any special training or any federal licensing. Since when do you have to become an expert in this ridiculous add on DLC to obtain the weapon just further advance your DPS in veteran trials? Can you please explain that one to me? I do pretty good in normal trials without doing Maelstrom.

Oh and I didn't realize that my incorrect spelling of the word "Maelstrom" caused you so much anguish and mental stress to the point that you just had to point it out to me. Please send me a bill from your therapist office and I'll gladly pay for it with my hard earn money that I worked so hard to get.

Omgwtfbbq321 · September 2016

What if it was the Stromproof title it's self that allowed you to use Maelstrom weapons. That way they could be BOE but only people who have actually beaten Maelstrom could equip them.

At least this way everyone could swap their powered weapon for a different kind of powered weapon.

phaseadept · September 2016

The only thing these threads will be successful at is eventually getting the Maelstrom weapons nerfed, so it would be better to come to a consensus that satisfies the majority of the player base instead of the minority.

Joysheeped · September 2016

Qbiken wrote: »

Joysheeped wrote: »

I have to say no because of the nature of the weapons; still, as player who constantly runs vMA I would love to see something in the last chest which can be sold for a certain amount of gold (to vendors/ players) to cover some of my trials' expenses.

You mean like the 10k stuff that drops from vetrials??

Yeah something like that; definitely not 10k and
change the amount of gold awarded depending on the score/deaths (flawless)/etc. (like the 10k item is only awarded with HM).

Vildebill · September 2016

No!

idk · September 2016

@raidentenshu_ESO

Absolutly not. Bad idea. If someone wants a vMA weapon they should have to work for it. This idea is just plain wrong.

LegendaryArcher · September 2016

Totalitarian wrote: »

Nope, you've got to prove that you're worthy of those weapons. You need to earn power, not buy it.

@Totalitarian And how exactly have people proved being worthy of them who got them before DB? All possible weapons in awesome traits in maybe 40, max. 70 runs. Now you're looking at an 18% chance to get a specific weapon (yes, just ONE weapon) in 150 runs. Or, to make it even better, a 20% to not get your desired weapon in 1000+ runs.

This is the problem. People have no idea what they're talking about. The people running around with vMA weapons in Sharpened and Precise got the before DB, when ZOS was handing them out easily. Why did they not "earn" them and we have to? I have 250+ flawless (no death) runs. I have only seen one inferno staff in my entire vMA career, which was Powered.

Apherius wrote: »

If you want your maesltrom weapons --> GO for them like everyone !!

@Apherius And how exactly is that? I haven't met a single person since DB who got a Sharpened Inferno. You cannot get useful weapons from vMA anymore. "Everyone" who has them got them before DB.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

I have attempted vMA many times and I will probably never finish it but I am still against them being tradeable. Idc if people are better than me. They obviously earned them. I'm happy just being able to do content I enjoy. Maybe someday I will go finish vMA but until then I am fine with doing trials and group dungeons with my crafted weapons.

@FLuFFyxMuFFiN No, they didn't earn them. They just ran vMA a few times before DB, while now people run it 1000+ times and get nothing even remotely as good as no-set crafted sharpened weapons.

rosendoichinoveb17_ESO wrote: »

I haven't completed vMSA yet (very close to completion), but the satisfaction of receiving something rare for completing a relatively very hard solo dungeon will be diminished if those weapons become sell-able in guild stores.

@rosendoichinoveb17_ESO Then please complete it a few times, then join the discussion. You're assuming you get "something rare" in vMA. Well, you do. We'll see how happy 400 charged and 100 decisive weapons will make you after 500 runs, knowing any crafted non-set sharpened weapon is better.