PvP soldiers weapon concept

BruhItsOver9000 · September 2016

PVPers find pve boring, we only go back to pve to make or improve gear, make money and buy consumables. We don't have time to go farm vma or vdsa and most pvp players are anti social,
so it's hard to get master weapons, i have an idea that will benefit pvp players, i call it the soldiers weapon, they can be bought for 2 mill ap and only work in cyrodill and ic.

PvP soldiers sword: after killing an enemy player, gain 10% stam recovery and 5% max stam for 20 seconds adds 160 weapon damage. Does not stack.

PvP soldiers dagger: attacking from crouch grants minor force and major savagery for 10 seconds adds 160 weapon damage.

PvP soldiers maul: after killing an enemy player, restore 4k stamina and 3k health adds 160 weapon damage.

PvP soldiers greatsword: your light and heavy attacks have a 10% chance to cause major defile on an enemy player and grants you major brutality for 5 seconds Adds 160 weapon damage.

PvP soldiers bow: 10% chance when using a bow ability to summon a companion to fight by your side, the companions bow attack deal 3000 physical damage every 1 second for 10 seconds and snares the enemy adds 160 weapon damage. The companion can be interrupted or killed.

PvP soldiers shield: 10% chance when hit to gain 30 ult and reduce damage taken by 10% for 5 seconds, adds 1000 max stamina and 1000 max magicka.

PvP soldiers restoration staff: have a 5% chance when healing allies to summon a companion who heals nearby allies and resurrects dead allies within a 15 meter radius for 5 seconds.

PvP soldiers destruction staff: after killing an enemy player, gain major sorcery, restore 4k magicka and gain 10% max magicka for 20 seconds adds 160 spell damage. does not stack.

Feel free to edit my post or add your own ideas.

I hope the devs respond to my thread @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Also the youtubers and streamers @Sypher @Alcast @FENGRUSH @Blobsky @Deltia

Lexxypwns · September 2016

dat bow doe

BruhItsOver9000 · September 2016

Lexxypwns wrote: »

dat bow doe

My bad, the damage will be reduced by 50%, that's why i put it at 5000. @Lexxypwns

Pchela · September 2016

The numbers listed look extreme but I like the idea of pvp master type weapons bought for AP.

Lexxypwns · September 2016

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

dat bow doe

My bad, the damage will be reduced by 50%, that's why i put it at 5000. @Lexxypwns

Still too strong, a 2500 DoT is going to crit for upwards of 4k on a lot of builds and its literally free to gain, no skill slot or usage required.

BruhItsOver9000 · September 2016

Pchela wrote: »

The numbers listed look extreme but I like the idea of pvp master type weapons bought for AP.

Ah not really, killing an enemy player is more challenging than killing an npc, that's why those numbers are high.

BruhItsOver9000 · September 2016

Lexxypwns wrote: »

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

dat bow doe

My bad, the damage will be reduced by 50%, that's why i put it at 5000. @Lexxypwns

Still too strong, a 2500 DoT is going to crit for upwards of 4k on a lot of builds and its literally free to gain, no skill slot or usage required.

Ok, will edit now.

Lexxypwns · September 2016

Look, the base idea is cool, but most of these are horribly unbalanced, bow is just the worst offender. What's scary is someone on ZoS's dev team will see this and think "oh cool, lets do that" even though it will create further stamina imbalance

BruhItsOver9000 · September 2016

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Look, the base idea is cool, but most of these are horribly unbalanced, bow is just the worst offender. What's scary is someone on ZoS's dev team will see this and think "oh cool, lets do that" even though it will create further stamina imbalance

As i said in my post, feel free to edit it, i just gave an example. I will edit it again.

Luigi_Vampa · September 2016

My mDK wants that shield to be a thing.

BruhItsOver9000 · September 2016

Ignore <--

Blobsky · September 2016

I like the base idea of more unique pvp gear but the cost and strength seems high... with work maybe

zuto40 · September 2016

Make the pvp weapons affect the 3rd ability in their respective weapon trees, follow the pattern set by master and maelstrom weapons

Bakven · September 2016

These would be really nice (with changes to the numbers of course), but the idea of buying specialized weapons with AP that works specifically for pvp has my support

Serjustin19 · September 2016

Love the whole PvP weapon concept. I so agree with the very top first paragraph. No offense PvEr's. I also need to stop falling asleep in IC...

Waylander · September 2016

I think the PvP weapon concept sounds great!

I think they should be good for PvE and PvP just like masters and maelstrom weapons have been, so PvE'ers are incentivized to PvP.

I like the idea of them being based on the third weapon skill in each tree, and it could be just the buff magica needs with crushing shock/force pulse getting some sort of buff.

Abilities that are third in the skill tree (and morphs):
2H - Uppercut
S/B - Defensive Posture
DW - Whirlwind
Bow - Scatter shot
Destro - Force Shock
Resto- Blessing of Protection

Some idea's for enchants (feel free to tweak / argue the virtue etc)
All - adds 1400 armour/spell penetration
2H - Crushing Blows enchantment - gain 500 armour penetration on successive uppercuts - can stack 5 times (note you can not weave other attacks in between)
S/B - Stalwart Guard enchantment - 6% chance on successful block to gain 15 ultimate and get minor protection for 6 seconds
DW - Beserker enchantment - when you execute with whirlwind gain major beserk for 4 seconds
Bow - Kiting Shadow enchantment - Creates a shadow image that absorbs the next 2 attacks
Destro - Elemental Force enchantment - 6% chance on hit to gain minor force for 10 seconds
Resto - Vital Protection enchantment - Applies minor vitality for 8 seconds

IxskullzxI · September 2016

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

PVPers find pve boring, we only go back to pve to make or improve gear, make money and buy consumables. We don't have time to go farm vma or vdsa and most pvp players are anti social,
so it's hard to get master weapons, i have an idea that will benefit pvp players, i call it the soldiers weapon, they can be bought for 2 mill ap and only work in cyrodill and ic.

PvP soldiers sword: after killing an enemy player, gain 10% stam recovery and 5% max stam for 20 seconds adds 160 weapon damage. Does not stack.

PvP soldiers dagger: attacking from crouch grants minor force and major savagery for 10 seconds adds 160 weapon damage.

PvP soldiers maul: after killing an enemy player, restore 4k stamina and 3k health adds 160 weapon damage.

PvP soldiers greatsword: your light and heavy attacks have a 10% chance to cause major defile on an enemy player and grants you major brutality for 5 seconds Adds 160 weapon damage.

PvP soldiers bow: 10% chance when using a bow ability to summon a companion to fight by your side, the companions bow attack deal 3000 physical damage every 1 second for 10 seconds and snares the enemy adds 160 weapon damage. The companion can be interrupted or killed.

PvP soldiers shield: 10% chance when hit to gain 30 ult and reduce damage taken by 10% for 5 seconds, adds 1000 max stamina and 1000 max magicka.

PvP soldiers restoration staff: have a 5% chance when healing allies to summon a companion who heals nearby allies and resurrects dead allies within a 15 meter radius for 5 seconds.

PvP soldiers destruction staff: after killing an enemy player, gain major sorcery, restore 4k magicka and gain 10% max magicka for 20 seconds adds 160 spell damage. does not stack.

Feel free to edit my post or add your own ideas.

I hope the devs respond to my thread @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Also the youtubers and streamers @Sypher @Alcast @FENGRUSH @Blobsky @Deltia

Looks like stam gets the better end of this deal. Nice try wrobel. I know that's you. But in all seriousness it would be cool to have some kind of good weapon for pvp to spend ap on. What I don't like though, is that the only thing magicka gets is staff. Not all magicka users use staffs mkay?

BruhItsOver9000 · September 2016

@IxskullzxI
PvP soldiers spellsword, for magicka users who use dual wield, after killing an enemy player, you take no damage for 3 seconds and restore 4k magicka.

Ackwalan · September 2016

If you want the reward, do the content.

Talcyndl · September 2016

Ackwalan wrote: »

If you want the reward, do the content.

Why should PvE content be the only way to get a weapon reward?

PvP'ing enough to get 2 million AP is as much "doing the content" as running a PvE solo Arena.

Ackwalan · September 2016

Talcyndl wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

If you want the reward, do the content.

Why should PvE content be the only way to get a weapon reward?

PvP'ing enough to get 2 million AP is as much "doing the content" as running a PvE solo Arena.

Why should PvP be the only way to get vigor?

Waylander · September 2016

Ackwalan wrote: »

Why should PvP be the only way to get vigor?

Because PvE is the only way to get undaunted passives?

Nonsensical arguments don't make much sense huh?

Putting something desirable for both PvE and PvP into the PvP sphere is no different from putting something desirable for both PvE and PvP into the PvE sphere.

Ackwalan · September 2016

Waylander wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

Why should PvP be the only way to get vigor?

Because PvE is the only way to get undaunted passives?

Nonsensical arguments don't make much sense huh?

Putting something desirable for both PvE and PvP into the PvP sphere is no different from putting something desirable for both PvE and PvP into the PvE sphere.

Then you do understand. Some skills, some gear are obtainable by doing certain content. It's not an accident.

TooskSG · September 2016

WTB BiS weapons for both PvE+PvP that unlock starting at General and get progressively better each AR above. That'd make me giggle

IxskullzxI · September 2016

BruhItsOver9000 wrote: »

@IxskullzxI
PvP soldiers spellsword, for magicka users who use dual wield, after killing an enemy player, you take no damage for 3 seconds and restore 4k magicka.

Ayy. I can deal with that. They really should tie magicka more weapon lines.

melek-taus · September 2016

I really like the idea but I would change a few things.

Do not make the weapons only PVP based. The Master and Maelstroms weapons can also be used in PVP so why not make it possible to use the Soldier weapons in PVE.

I would also change the price. 2 million AP is kinda high as it is much easier to do VMA a few times then to make 2 million AP. I would want to see it in the range of 500K - 1 million AP. Or make the desired trait 1.5 mil and a random one 200k.

The weapon buffs need to be thought through. A buff that only works after killing an enemy is not very useful unless you kill several. A Master and Maelstrom would still be better, they need to be on the same par.

I mainly play PVP and indeed I do PVE to make money, get gear and such. I think it's strange that we PVPers have almost no options to get good endgame gear or make easy money like in PVE. I think ZOS needs to think PVP through as PVE and PVP are two aspects of the game but somehow you have to keep doing PVE content to be on par in PVP.
I like doing dungeons and trials but my main focus is PVP and adding more PVP related suff/ gameplay would be very nice.

For example a quest (daily or weekly) that can drop specific PVP Soldier/ Monster sets only in PVP when you capture 3 specific keeps or if your race owns all 3 towns within a certain time frame after accepting the quest. I know this might not be doable but something similar could be done. Think about it.

zuto40 · September 2016

DW- Converts the DW execute passive to 50% from 25% when using whirlwind

2H- Adds a 2k dot for 5 seconds after a successful uppercut, can occur once per target every 15 seconds

Destro- Make the element your staff is do double damage and reduce spell resistance by 3k for force pulse

Can't remember other abilities will update when I get home