I'd just like to take a moment and thank the dev GENIUS who thought this set thru...just WOW.

OGLezard · September 2016

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

jaygraeb14a_ESO wrote: »

Ya...BIG THANKS to the DEV who thought "geeze, this is great idea!!!" and came out with the VELIDRETH SET. I mean getting nuke bombed by 3 little INSTANT globs up close for 10k+ makes tons of sense! I mean but there's soooo many other sets that i'm sure amount to the absurdity of this. I mean its not like 9/10ths of the ganker's now aren't lining up for this stupid zero skill setup.

EVERY COMPANY pulls this. The release some stupid NEW OP item/set and wait till they SELL their copies of content. Then cry "foul" and nerf it or bring some other stupid set up to match it.

Where's the diversity going in this game??? You guys realize this is EXACTLY what KILLED Dark Age of Camelot??? Thanks for the new and upcoming "Trials of Atlantis".

If you think it's bad now, wait. Next patch you'll be able to get these stats easily:

No Battle Spirit (so add 5k health for PVP), no War Horn, not in WW form, no potion buff. 5 heavy with Black Rose so you can sustain just fine with 1.1k regen.

@arkansas_ESO teach me sensei

arkansas_ESO · September 2016

OGLezard wrote: »

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

jaygraeb14a_ESO wrote: »

Ya...BIG THANKS to the DEV who thought "geeze, this is great idea!!!" and came out with the VELIDRETH SET. I mean getting nuke bombed by 3 little INSTANT globs up close for 10k+ makes tons of sense! I mean but there's soooo many other sets that i'm sure amount to the absurdity of this. I mean its not like 9/10ths of the ganker's now aren't lining up for this stupid zero skill setup.

EVERY COMPANY pulls this. The release some stupid NEW OP item/set and wait till they SELL their copies of content. Then cry "foul" and nerf it or bring some other stupid set up to match it.

Where's the diversity going in this game??? You guys realize this is EXACTLY what KILLED Dark Age of Camelot??? Thanks for the new and upcoming "Trials of Atlantis".

If you think it's bad now, wait. Next patch you'll be able to get these stats easily:

No Battle Spirit (so add 5k health for PVP), no War Horn, not in WW form, no potion buff. 5 heavy with Black Rose so you can sustain just fine with 1.1k regen.

@arkansas_ESO teach me sensei

5pc Draugr Hulk, 5pc Black Rose, 1pc max stam monster set, 1pc max stam monster set. Sword and shield, 2H backbar. I did it on stam sorc for the extra 8% max stam from Bound Armaments, but you could do this on any class and still get around 47k max stam. Could also swap out the two 1pc monster sets for 2pc Selene, you'll lose about 2k max stam but you'll get more burst damage.

Mojmir · September 2016

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

OGLezard wrote: »

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

jaygraeb14a_ESO wrote: »

Ya...BIG THANKS to the DEV who thought "geeze, this is great idea!!!" and came out with the VELIDRETH SET. I mean getting nuke bombed by 3 little INSTANT globs up close for 10k+ makes tons of sense! I mean but there's soooo many other sets that i'm sure amount to the absurdity of this. I mean its not like 9/10ths of the ganker's now aren't lining up for this stupid zero skill setup.

EVERY COMPANY pulls this. The release some stupid NEW OP item/set and wait till they SELL their copies of content. Then cry "foul" and nerf it or bring some other stupid set up to match it.

Where's the diversity going in this game??? You guys realize this is EXACTLY what KILLED Dark Age of Camelot??? Thanks for the new and upcoming "Trials of Atlantis".

If you think it's bad now, wait. Next patch you'll be able to get these stats easily:

No Battle Spirit (so add 5k health for PVP), no War Horn, not in WW form, no potion buff. 5 heavy with Black Rose so you can sustain just fine with 1.1k regen.

@arkansas_ESO teach me sensei

5pc Draugr Hulk, 5pc Black Rose, 1pc max stam monster set, 1pc max stam monster set. Sword and shield, 2H backbar. I did it on stam sorc for the extra 8% max stam from Bound Armaments, but you could do this on any class and still get around 47k max stam. Could also swap out the two 1pc monster sets for 2pc Selene, you'll lose about 2k max stam but you'll get more burst damage.

Max your horse though,:p

PurifedBladez · September 2016

arkansas_ESO wrote: »

jaygraeb14a_ESO wrote: »

Ya...BIG THANKS to the DEV who thought "geeze, this is great idea!!!" and came out with the VELIDRETH SET. I mean getting nuke bombed by 3 little INSTANT globs up close for 10k+ makes tons of sense! I mean but there's soooo many other sets that i'm sure amount to the absurdity of this. I mean its not like 9/10ths of the ganker's now aren't lining up for this stupid zero skill setup.

EVERY COMPANY pulls this. The release some stupid NEW OP item/set and wait till they SELL their copies of content. Then cry "foul" and nerf it or bring some other stupid set up to match it.

Where's the diversity going in this game??? You guys realize this is EXACTLY what KILLED Dark Age of Camelot??? Thanks for the new and upcoming "Trials of Atlantis".

If you think it's bad now, wait. Next patch you'll be able to get these stats easily:

No Battle Spirit (so add 5k health for PVP), no War Horn, not in WW form, no potion buff. 5 heavy with Black Rose so you can sustain just fine with 1.1k regen. It's hard to take this game serious when they add in more and more broken sets every patch.

Wtf is that. Lol.

Disgusting.

Disheartening.

Bad_Company · September 2016

in a PvP high-burst environment

And it's not just PvP, it's vastly to superior to anything else in PvE aswell. If you are using a stam build and want offense, it's Validreth or gtfo.

By your very own definition, Vali is OP

In this same thread Malubeth was called OP, yet it's not high burst.
The most important thing I wrote in that sentence was the one you can find here, above. If you want immediate burst as a stamina character you'll go for Velidreth, sure. If you want it as a magicka character you'll probably go for Kena/Alchemist/Vicious Death. If you want tankiness you'll pick Maubeth or Bloodspawn.
It really depends on what you want to achieve.

As I said, I don't think Velidreth is OP, but it's the best set for high-burst-seeking stamina players. For now.

akredon_ESO · September 2016

get wrobeled

... but yeah all these poison sets are just... hilarious. i was fighting a NB the other day using Vice cannon and viper i wanna say with poisons. 1 shot build couldn't do whole lot against the cheese

Weesacs · September 2016

As a Templar tank who uses Malubeth, Reactive set and who Perma blocks I came across one of these 'said' gankers in the sewers a few nights ago - after about 10 mins of frustration he left me alone (oh and having champion points in damage reduction to disease will help).

FearlessOne_2014 · September 2016

Weesacs wrote: »

As a Templar tank who uses Malubeth, Reactive set and who Perma blocks I came across one of these 'said' gankers in the sewers a few nights ago - after about 10 mins of frustration he left me alone (oh and having champion points in damage reduction to disease will help).

Pretty much 100 CPs into Hardy is going to have to start being a thing. Stamina burst damage now completely outclasses Magicka's damage.

Going to have to build our mage's for the Stamina meta. That ZOS has placed on us.

duncan_cougarpreeb18_ESO · September 2016

You know what's wrong with this game system is: Scaling of total damage also with your max stamina / magicka

Remove that and you will have a much better system and that OP set-up only mediocre at best
3.3k weapon damage, lol crit ... yeah yeah, but add the 52k stamina -- OUCH

This game would be so much better without this damage scaling with max stats. Tons of more good possibilities, no longer these must have set combos (most would be in the middle if not lower end of performance then), way more play style, better use of drinks, etc. etc.

ZOS DEVs should really start to think it through and not have these "oh nice and shiny - let's put it in" blunders

Jade1986 · September 2016

KICHZY wrote: »

I'm sure a company of trained developers, management and marketing team know better than a whiny *** who can't even produce a topic without coming across as a brat. Perhaps use your time to create something constructive rather than moaning. Yes balance is an issue but they've already announced at PaxWest that they are looking into a mass balancing patch in the future, It's on there list.

Your post is so narrow minded it's laughable...grow up!

You've made 3 topics and numerous posts (more than I can be bothered looking at) on how terrible the game is and how it's failing, If the game is that bad for you, simply leave. Stop spreading your nonsensical shite all over the place for others to see. Heck your "rant" thread from May 2014 practically states the game is dying then...Guess what? You were very much mistaken.

If you want the game to improve the best thing you could possibly do is never come back to these forums, People like you are the reason community's fall.

Are you actually defending the combat team here? Really? I used to have their backs, but as of recently, they seem to be either REALLY high or REALLY drunk, or both, while coming up with armor / weapon sets. And their balancing leaves something to be desired as well.

Egonieser · September 2016

Weesacs wrote: »

As a Templar tank who uses Malubeth, Reactive set and who Perma blocks I came across one of these 'said' gankers in the sewers a few nights ago - after about 10 mins of frustration he left me alone (oh and having champion points in damage reduction to disease will help).

I was about to make a similar post, except i don't permablock, just block when needed and use healing springs for my templar house addition. I've yet to encounter a NB who successfully killed me 1 vs 1, even their bursts are pitiful from stealth.
I think templar is the only other class except for NB that can actually function well these days.

acw37162 · September 2016

AtmaDarkwolf wrote: »

put aside the emotions, and you would realize that the OP is correct, they do NOT think sets though, OR, they DO and its a 'ploy' to sell that dlc. (likely the 2nd)

I mean u can go back and see roughly when each DLC drops how there's 'exclusive' items that only drop in said dlc that are game breaking or very near game breaking.

2-3 months later its brought(sort of) into line with the others (and often said 'balancing' ends up adding bugs unforeseen, AKA: Malubeth set blunder)

Except the OP is not correct and you sir should watch out there are black helicopters near by.

Swindy · September 2016

Egonieser wrote: »

Weesacs wrote: »

As a Templar tank who uses Malubeth, Reactive set and who Perma blocks I came across one of these 'said' gankers in the sewers a few nights ago - after about 10 mins of frustration he left me alone (oh and having champion points in damage reduction to disease will help).

I was about to make a similar post, except i don't permablock, just block when needed and use healing springs for my templar house addition. I've yet to encounter a NB who successfully killed me 1 vs 1, even their bursts are pitiful from stealth.
I think templar is the only other class except for NB that can actually function well these days.

I've a stamblade in vipers + vice (yeah I know, until 1 Tamriel drops with the fix) + VMA + kena who cannot (speaking 1v1 here) gank a good templar to death, and a magic templar in 5 x light who has not been successfully ganked by a stamblade.
You two are quite correct, and ganking a good stamina dk is also very, very difficult, often impossible.
(No I don't have Vel.)
So my belief is 1v1 ganking only works against other non-defensive builds...people just want big burst and DPS yet not to be hurt all in one build. Unrealistic expectations really.

But what I would give for 47-52k stamina even without big regen on my Kitty.

Hiero_Glyph · September 2016

duncan_cougarpreeb18_ESO wrote: »

You know what's wrong with this game system is: Scaling of total damage also with your max stamina / magicka

Remove that and you will have a much better system and that OP set-up only mediocre at best
3.3k weapon damage, lol crit ... yeah yeah, but add the 52k stamina -- OUCH

This game would be so much better without this damage scaling with max stats. Tons of more good possibilities, no longer these must have set combos (most would be in the middle if not lower end of performance then), way more play style, better use of drinks, etc. etc.

ZOS DEVs should really start to think it through and not have these "oh nice and shiny - let's put it in" blunders

^This. That and lowering the major buffs and CP bonuses to around 15% (12% for major evasion) would add a significant amount of build variety.

Hiero_Glyph · September 2016

Double post.