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Let's Talk About M-Rated Content, Bruh.
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Jade1986✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Darkonflare15 wrote: »ZOS, can we please have more M-rated content in this game? Please? I'm not saying you have to go full GTA or Duke Nukem, but this is an Elder Scrolls game at the end of the day.
There are bandits and skirmishers. There are assassins and pirates. There are people who pray to Sithis and summon Daedra, and also stab you up in your sleep for coin. You know? So why is there no profanity??? Why is there no nudity, or more revealing attire? You walk into a town, and you should see drunk NPC's stumbling about and getting cussed at by guards. You walk into an inn, and you should see prostitutes trying to offer you their services. You should overhear mercenaries talking about their latest raids, and gruesome battles of glory. You know? Make it really feel like we are in this world from this age in time. I'm not saying that you have to walk into an inn and see elf or whatever shaking their uncovered lady-bits on a table. But still. C'mon now.
As for battles, there should be way more gore. Nothing is pretty about conflict and violence. Nothing. Nothing is pretty. And while I appreciate the little things you do, like having people vomit up acid and fall into their own bubbling acids when killed by poison. Or the actions done by the blade of woe, when you poke someone in the tummy and then the eye. I feel there should be definitely more graphic depictions of violence. This is a M-rated game. You get with an arrow, you shouldn't just fall over dead. Lol WTF? You get hit with an arrow, your character should drop to their knees and then topple over. You hit someone with an uppercut of a battle-axe or greatsword and blood should fly. I mean a spurt or spray. You LITERALLY just uppercutted flesh with a razor-sharp weapon the size of half their body. Sometimes as big as their body. And you mean to tell me that no blood goes flying? Lmao. Or if you hit metal, you should see sparks go flying off. You catch someone or something with your talons as a DK, those talons should impale your target(s). Not just hold them in a prison. A burning talon CC should be just that that. A flaming talon impaling your target, and locking them in place. You know? Or if you whip someone with a Flame Lash, let embers falling off their skin. You're literally whipping someone with fire. Let smoke fly off upon impact. Let their be burn marks on your target. If werewolves can slash you up, and have you looking a blood-soaked mess — why can't other forms of violence be depicted? Werewolves out and about munching on dead corpses, and vampires sucking torrents of blood out of people like a Mortal Kombat fatality. WTF ZOS? Let people be immersed in combat.
This is a M-rated game. Let us feel immersed in M-rated content. I'm not saying that you have to go overboard, but let us truly feel like we are submerged in this cruel and harsh world. I mean this is a world where Dunmer enslave Argonians, and Altmer treat other races like scum due to their right to do so (High Elf power!). Let use actually be immersed.
What do you mean more mature stuff? In the past Elder scrolls games you really did not have that much swearing and cursing in the sense of our world. They have insults like N'wah, Fetcher, Milk drinker, and S'wit but none of the words that you consider mature. What really constitutes as nudity? There are plenty of half naked npcs and players while also wearing skimpy clothes. The closest to the nudity that you probably want was in Morrowind from Khajiit females. When they were naked they did not have a bra but there was not any features there.
There is plenty of sexual themes and innuendos through out the game. Start reading most of the books and listen to the dialogue. It is there. There is plenty of blood in the game and there several scenes of violence though out the game. Examples impale bodies, cannibalism, blood and blood gushing sounds, flesh laying around, sounds of pain, skeletons in torture devices, Npc being tortured, corpse piles, and severed creatures head. There is plenty of gore in the game it just not as excessive as you may want. The only elder scrolls game that had some form of dismemberment that players can do was in Skyrim and even then it was just cutting heads off. Blood still was not that excessive. The most blood I have seen from an Elder scrolls game in general is from this game. The killing scenes from the blade of woe and the vampire draining blood is lot more bloody then any other Elder scrolls game before. There is plenty of this in the game already and the excessive gore that you want from an Elder scrolls game has not really been in Elder games before. So you really cannot use that excuse to put more gore in the game to suit your tastes.
Lol, what blood? Seriously, I have seen more blood at a kindergarten.0 -
Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭You cannot predict what vulgar statements/conversations players will talk about in-game therefore the decision of ESO being M-Rated/18+ has to do with that (I think). Adding Gore, Profanity and more Violence simply because that rating is there seems questionable but doubt it's the direction ZOS want to take...
However I do agree selected NPC dialog would be more believable if they was to use mild profanity occasionally.
No, it is only because of the lore books, that is -it-. I remember when they were trying to get the T rating, but then the censors saw the lusty argonian maid and that was that. It went M after that.
Damn, that's pretty sad that lorebooks made this game rated M. Even as a beta-tester, I had no idea why this game felt so tame. And yet people kept trying to tell me that this game is for a mature audience when I would tell others to cop this game for their loved ones and everything. ._.0 -
Jade1986✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »As a father who often plays in the presence of my kids, I do not approve this thread. If you want nudity, go watch ***. If you want gore, go watch saw. If you want to hang out with friends in a great game, play ESO. Don't mix genres.
TES has always been a mature game with blood, sexual themes, torture and things like that. It is you that is clearly playing the wrong series.2 -
Jade1986✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »ZOS, can we please have more M-rated content in this game? Please? I'm not saying you have to go full GTA or Duke Nukem, but this is an Elder Scrolls game at the end of the day.
There are bandits and skirmishers. There are assassins and pirates. There are people who pray to Sithis and summon Daedra, and also stab you up in your sleep for coin. You know? So why is there no profanity??? Why is there no nudity, or more revealing attire? You walk into a town, and you should see drunk NPC's stumbling about and getting cussed at by guards. You walk into an inn, and you should see prostitutes trying to offer you their services. You should overhear mercenaries talking about their latest raids, and gruesome battles of glory. You know? Make it really feel like we are in this world from this age in time. I'm not saying that you have to walk into an inn and see elf or whatever shaking their uncovered lady-bits on a table. But still. C'mon now.
As for battles, there should be way more gore. Nothing is pretty about conflict and violence. Nothing. Nothing is pretty. And while I appreciate the little things you do, like having people vomit up acid and fall into their own bubbling acids when killed by poison. Or the actions done by the blade of woe, when you poke someone in the tummy and then the eye. I feel there should be definitely more graphic depictions of violence. This is a M-rated game. You get with an arrow, you shouldn't just fall over dead. Lol WTF? You get hit with an arrow, your character should drop to their knees and then topple over. You hit someone with an uppercut of a battle-axe or greatsword and blood should fly. I mean a spurt or spray. You LITERALLY just uppercutted flesh with a razor-sharp weapon the size of half their body. Sometimes as big as their body. And you mean to tell me that no blood goes flying? Lmao. Or if you hit metal, you should see sparks go flying off. You catch someone or something with your talons as a DK, those talons should impale your target(s). Not just hold them in a prison. A burning talon CC should be just that that. A flaming talon impaling your target, and locking them in place. You know? Or if you whip someone with a Flame Lash, let embers falling off their skin. You're literally whipping someone with fire. Let smoke fly off upon impact. Let their be burn marks on your target. If werewolves can slash you up, and have you looking a blood-soaked mess — why can't other forms of violence be depicted? Werewolves out and about munching on dead corpses, and vampires sucking torrents of blood out of people like a Mortal Kombat fatality. WTF ZOS? Let people be immersed in combat.
This is a M-rated game. Let us feel immersed in M-rated content. I'm not saying that you have to go overboard, but let us truly feel like we are submerged in this cruel and harsh world. I mean this is a world where Dunmer enslave Argonians, and Altmer treat other races like scum due to their right to do so (High Elf power!). Let use actually be immersed.
You must not work in medicine. I'm perfectly fine with the realistic amount of gore being displayed in this game. If anything there's too much blood with these blade of woe kills. Too much gore makes me cringe. Not because it bothers me emotionally, but more so because it looks cheesy.
Actually as a citizen of L.A. , I've witnessed a few stabbing in the real world . I would say they down play the violence . Just with a medium sized knife I seen a guy spilling fluids and chunks of stuff all over the pavement . I imagine a knife the size of the blade of woe would do much worse in pulling things out . I may not work in medicine but I've seen how nasty knife wounds bleed every where for reals .
Even pulling a tooth can be bloodier than 99.9 % of the stuff in this game. I work in oral surgery, and the blood in this game is very VERY under exaggerated.3 -
Jade1986✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭You cannot predict what vulgar statements/conversations players will talk about in-game therefore the decision of ESO being M-Rated/18+ has to do with that (I think). Adding Gore, Profanity and more Violence simply because that rating is there seems questionable but doubt it's the direction ZOS want to take...
However I do agree selected NPC dialog would be more believable if they was to use mild profanity occasionally.
No, it is only because of the lore books, that is -it-. I remember when they were trying to get the T rating, but then the censors saw the lusty argonian maid and that was that. It went M after that.
Damn, that's pretty sad that lorebooks made this game rated M. Even as a beta-tester, I had no idea why this game felt so tame. And yet people kept trying to tell me that this game is for a mature audience when I would tell others to cop this game for their loved ones and everything. ._.
Yeah, it was a REALLY lame move by the ESRB ( or ERSB ??? ) anyway, by them. Im not looking for kill bill type blood sprays, but come on, a great sword should cause a considerable amount of blood when killing soemone.1 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »ZOS, can we please have more M-rated content in this game? Please? I'm not saying you have to go full GTA or Duke Nukem, but this is an Elder Scrolls game at the end of the day.
There are bandits and skirmishers. There are assassins and pirates. There are people who pray to Sithis and summon Daedra, and also stab you up in your sleep for coin. You know? So why is there no profanity??? Why is there no nudity, or more revealing attire? You walk into a town, and you should see drunk NPC's stumbling about and getting cussed at by guards. You walk into an inn, and you should see prostitutes trying to offer you their services. You should overhear mercenaries talking about their latest raids, and gruesome battles of glory. You know? Make it really feel like we are in this world from this age in time. I'm not saying that you have to walk into an inn and see elf or whatever shaking their uncovered lady-bits on a table. But still. C'mon now.
As for battles, there should be way more gore. Nothing is pretty about conflict and violence. Nothing. Nothing is pretty. And while I appreciate the little things you do, like having people vomit up acid and fall into their own bubbling acids when killed by poison. Or the actions done by the blade of woe, when you poke someone in the tummy and then the eye. I feel there should be definitely more graphic depictions of violence. This is a M-rated game. You get with an arrow, you shouldn't just fall over dead. Lol WTF? You get hit with an arrow, your character should drop to their knees and then topple over. You hit someone with an uppercut of a battle-axe or greatsword and blood should fly. I mean a spurt or spray. You LITERALLY just uppercutted flesh with a razor-sharp weapon the size of half their body. Sometimes as big as their body. And you mean to tell me that no blood goes flying? Lmao. Or if you hit metal, you should see sparks go flying off. You catch someone or something with your talons as a DK, those talons should impale your target(s). Not just hold them in a prison. A burning talon CC should be just that that. A flaming talon impaling your target, and locking them in place. You know? Or if you whip someone with a Flame Lash, let embers falling off their skin. You're literally whipping someone with fire. Let smoke fly off upon impact. Let their be burn marks on your target. If werewolves can slash you up, and have you looking a blood-soaked mess — why can't other forms of violence be depicted? Werewolves out and about munching on dead corpses, and vampires sucking torrents of blood out of people like a Mortal Kombat fatality. WTF ZOS? Let people be immersed in combat.
This is a M-rated game. Let us feel immersed in M-rated content. I'm not saying that you have to go overboard, but let us truly feel like we are submerged in this cruel and harsh world. I mean this is a world where Dunmer enslave Argonians, and Altmer treat other races like scum due to their right to do so (High Elf power!). Let use actually be immersed.
You must not work in medicine. I'm perfectly fine with the realistic amount of gore being displayed in this game. If anything there's too much blood with these blade of woe kills. Too much gore makes me cringe. Not because it bothers me emotionally, but more so because it looks cheesy.
Actually as a citizen of L.A. , I've witnessed a few stabbing in the real world . I would say they down play the violence . Just with a medium sized knife I seen a guy spilling fluids and chunks of stuff all over the pavement . I imagine a knife the size of the blade of woe would do much worse in pulling things out . I may not work in medicine but I've seen how nasty knife wounds bleed every where for reals .
Even pulling a tooth can be bloodier than 99.9 % of the stuff in this game. I work in oral surgery, and the blood in this game is very VERY under exaggerated.
You are a brave person . I would probably be fainting pulling teeth
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Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »ZOS, can we please have more M-rated content in this game? Please? I'm not saying you have to go full GTA or Duke Nukem, but this is an Elder Scrolls game at the end of the day.
There are bandits and skirmishers. There are assassins and pirates. There are people who pray to Sithis and summon Daedra, and also stab you up in your sleep for coin. You know? So why is there no profanity??? Why is there no nudity, or more revealing attire? You walk into a town, and you should see drunk NPC's stumbling about and getting cussed at by guards. You walk into an inn, and you should see prostitutes trying to offer you their services. You should overhear mercenaries talking about their latest raids, and gruesome battles of glory. You know? Make it really feel like we are in this world from this age in time. I'm not saying that you have to walk into an inn and see elf or whatever shaking their uncovered lady-bits on a table. But still. C'mon now.
As for battles, there should be way more gore. Nothing is pretty about conflict and violence. Nothing. Nothing is pretty. And while I appreciate the little things you do, like having people vomit up acid and fall into their own bubbling acids when killed by poison. Or the actions done by the blade of woe, when you poke someone in the tummy and then the eye. I feel there should be definitely more graphic depictions of violence. This is a M-rated game. You get with an arrow, you shouldn't just fall over dead. Lol WTF? You get hit with an arrow, your character should drop to their knees and then topple over. You hit someone with an uppercut of a battle-axe or greatsword and blood should fly. I mean a spurt or spray. You LITERALLY just uppercutted flesh with a razor-sharp weapon the size of half their body. Sometimes as big as their body. And you mean to tell me that no blood goes flying? Lmao. Or if you hit metal, you should see sparks go flying off. You catch someone or something with your talons as a DK, those talons should impale your target(s). Not just hold them in a prison. A burning talon CC should be just that that. A flaming talon impaling your target, and locking them in place. You know? Or if you whip someone with a Flame Lash, let embers falling off their skin. You're literally whipping someone with fire. Let smoke fly off upon impact. Let their be burn marks on your target. If werewolves can slash you up, and have you looking a blood-soaked mess — why can't other forms of violence be depicted? Werewolves out and about munching on dead corpses, and vampires sucking torrents of blood out of people like a Mortal Kombat fatality. WTF ZOS? Let people be immersed in combat.
This is a M-rated game. Let us feel immersed in M-rated content. I'm not saying that you have to go overboard, but let us truly feel like we are submerged in this cruel and harsh world. I mean this is a world where Dunmer enslave Argonians, and Altmer treat other races like scum due to their right to do so (High Elf power!). Let use actually be immersed.
You must not work in medicine. I'm perfectly fine with the realistic amount of gore being displayed in this game. If anything there's too much blood with these blade of woe kills. Too much gore makes me cringe. Not because it bothers me emotionally, but more so because it looks cheesy.
Actually as a citizen of L.A. , I've witnessed a few stabbing in the real world . I would say they down play the violence . Just with a medium sized knife I seen a guy spilling fluids and chunks of stuff all over the pavement . I imagine a knife the size of the blade of woe would do much worse in pulling things out . I may not work in medicine but I've seen how nasty knife wounds bleed every where for reals .
Even pulling a tooth can be bloodier than 99.9 % of the stuff in this game. I work in oral surgery, and the blood in this game is very VERY under exaggerated.
You are a brave person . I would probably be fainting pulling teeth
That's what I'm saying, bruh. They're super brave! >_<1 -
Acrolas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Let us feel immersed in M-rated content.
Once upon a time, the publishers released a content disclosure (questionnaire plus DVD). ESRB didn't have to play the game. The panel can rate exclusively on that content disclosure. So you're playing in M-rated content, because the panel didn't feel a Teen rating best reflected the content. The publishers didn't contest it. The end.
There's a broad spectrum of Mature. Pulling from my comic shelf, From Under Mountains is more on ESO's level as far as adult fantasy content. It's rated Mature. But just because it received that rating doesn't mean it should alter its identity to be more like The Godd***ed. A lot of Mature titles on my shelf shows restraint. Which I appreciate, because if everything were like The Godd***ed I wouldn't be reading most of it.
I tried Skottie Young's I Hate Fairyland. While the writing's great, the over-saturated, over the top violence got old really fast. I don't want or need every single Mature title to be an 11 or 12 on a scale from 1 to 10.
ESO is fine where it is. If you want something harder, you're far better off finding an appropriate title than waiting for this one to change for you.signing off2 -
I actually want to see my armor rusted or broken too. But I definitely agree with everything
Feel free to add me. I'm part of the Gummy Guars PC/Mac NA server. Master crafter and working on getting 9 traits on everything1 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think Monty Python the Holy Grail had more blood and language then this game . An that was a real life documentary I mean comedy .1 -
Schizoid-man✭✭Not sure that I've seen anything rated PEGI 18 (M) in this game yet. I've always assumed that the mature rating was because of the potential interaction (group chat, etc) with real people. I agree, in principle, with the OP though. ESO doesn't need to morph into Game of Thrones but if you need to be 18 to play, then I see no reason why there shouldn't be adult themes?1
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Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Schizoid-man wrote: »Not sure that I've seen anything rated PEGI 18 (M) in this game yet. I've always assumed that the mature rating was because of the potential interaction (group chat, etc) with real people. I agree, in principle, with the OP though. ESO doesn't need to morph into Game of Thrones but if you need to be 18 to play, then I see no reason why there shouldn't be adult themes?
That's what I'm saying, bruh. Take this +1, comrade.0 -
Valerien✭✭✭I guess for me the difference between mature story telling and kiddie story telling for me is the depth, realism and levels of grey involved. I'll do it as examples.
Teenage focused Story:
Our hero rides into a village and is informed by the local headsman that an evil ghost has taken to haunting the village and last night killed a villager. Our hero tracks down the ghost, she explains that the village deserve what they get and our hero vanquishes the ghost.
Mature focused Story:
Our hero rides into a village one dark and stormy night, immediately put on edge by the lack of villagers about, he makes his way to the Inn where he finds the people huddled inside scared to go out after dark. The plead with him to deal with the ghost that has been haunting them, he agrees but not first without taking half the pay up front. Our hero tracks down the ghost learning that she had been a herbalist who lived out in the wilderness, who had been drowned in the local well as a witch. Upon learning this our hero must decide if he will vanquish the ghost or that the villagers are getting what they deserved and ride off leaving them to their fate.
Mature story telling goes to every level and makes it more engaging, rather than just being a helpful some what dim witted traveler it puts more onus on motivation for doing things. Rather than helping said Buxom Beer Wench because you love helping people, you help because you love wenches, buxomness and beer and seek to be justly rewarded for your effort. Sure if you just like helping people that can be a motivation but it would be nice to feel just occasionally we do something for some reason other than the person needed help and we happened to be there.3 -
Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I guess for me the difference between mature story telling and kiddie story telling for me is the depth, realism and levels of grey involved. I'll do it as examples.
Teenage focused Story:
Our hero rides into a village and is informed by the local headsman that an evil ghost has taken to haunting the village and last night killed a villager. Our hero tracks down the ghost, she explains that the village deserve what they get and our hero vanquishes the ghost.
Mature focused Story:
Our hero rides into a village one dark and stormy night, immediately put on edge by the lack of villagers about, he makes his way to the Inn where he finds the people huddled inside scared to go out after dark. The plead with him to deal with the ghost that has been haunting them, he agrees but not first without taking half the pay up front. Our hero tracks down the ghost learning that she had been a herbalist who lived out in the wilderness, who had been drowned in the local well as a witch. Upon learning this our hero must decide if he will vanquish the ghost or that the villagers are getting what they deserved and ride off leaving them to their fate.
Mature story telling goes to every level and makes it more engaging, rather than just being a helpful some what dim witted traveler it puts more onus on motivation for doing things. Rather than helping said Buxom Beer Wench because you love helping people, you help because you love wenches, buxomness and beer and seek to be justly rewarded for your effort. Sure if you just like helping people that can be a motivation but it would be nice to feel just occasionally we do something for some reason other than the person needed help and we happened to be there.
Hm... Very true points.0 -
Appleblade✭✭✭✭✭The deadra women sometimes suggest we could be doing something better than fighting.
Inquiring minds to know.Edited by Appleblade on September 10, 2016 9:51PM1 -
Appleblade✭✭✭✭✭Rohamad_Ali wrote: »AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »@Rohamad_Ali never even started the DB or theives guild quests. If I wanted to play a stealth game, I would have played MGS or assassins creed. Spend most of my time in dungeons/trials or PvP.
Good Dad then . It's too violent . MGS and Assasins Creed are some of my favorites but I only have a puppy and a kitten in the house so I don't think they can see all the way up to the monitor . If they get on my lap while playing I cover thier eyes before blade of woe attack .
You're safe with the puppy probably, but that kitten is somewhere right now practicing assassin moves and thinking "Soon..."
Hmm... (Googles)
O.o OMG: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jnk15Wf6xMUEdited by Appleblade on September 10, 2016 9:56PM1 -
Rohamad_Ali✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Appleblade wrote: »Rohamad_Ali wrote: »AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »@Rohamad_Ali never even started the DB or theives guild quests. If I wanted to play a stealth game, I would have played MGS or assassins creed. Spend most of my time in dungeons/trials or PvP.
Good Dad then . It's too violent . MGS and Assasins Creed are some of my favorites but I only have a puppy and a kitten in the house so I don't think they can see all the way up to the monitor . If they get on my lap while playing I cover thier eyes before blade of woe attack .
You're safe with the puppy probably, but that kitten is somewhere right now practicing assassin moves and thinking "Soon..."
Hmm... (Googles)
O.o OMG: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jnk15Wf6xMU
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✭✭✭✭✭Personally I love it when the games I play feel a little more realistic (as much as you can get there in a world of magic and immortal heroes...)
That includes the "fitting" amount of gore and, yes, also naughtyness.
When I bought ESO back in 2014, it as rated "16" here.... and most of the game is still that way.
But then came the justice system, where you could murder innocent civilians without and pleads of self defense like: "but... he aggro'd me, I feared for my character life!"... and they raised the maturity ratings... and I always felt a little sad that there are sooo many instances where the game does not live up to my hopes.
Be it "wounded" NPCs that are without wounds and blood, just holding their belly or something, be it lack of blood splatter in combat (though the blade of woe makes up for that a little I guess), be it naked nords retaining a (sadly all too modern looking) piece of underwear to protect their modesty, be it "children" in quests that act like six year olds but look like grown men, be it the awful underwear itself (what's wrong with the good old loincloth visuals I ask?), whatever.
Though I have to admit, ESO also has some nice understated stuff hidden away in some corners... I really loved the talk about swords and sheaths my character had in the Ebon Flask, so delightfully naughy double meaning...
And I would love to have more of the sort in my ESO, and I also would not mind paying extra, like @Gidorick once suggested in his Brutality Pack Concept... I'd buy that for a handful of crowns!
I'd also buy some sort of "Adult ESO Pack" that might add some of the raunchier sides of medieval-style fantasy settings - as long as it is done tastefully fitting the story/setting (think Games of Thrones) and not overly much just to show naked flesh (think Spartacus - Blood and Sand). (of course, if the game ever DID get full nudity, I shudder to think about the "crown cost per extra inches" they might also add... J/K
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Brunoad✭✭✭I VERY MUCH appreciate how clean Elder Scrolls world is. I can now show it, as well as suggest it to just about everyone I know, without being embarrassed. For example, from my experiences, the more mature and wise people get, the less vulgar language they use and the less they want to be around it. This game is VERY popular with mature crowd and this lack of unnecessary filth has much to do with it. Many ES fans have their own children and even grandchildren. There are MANY teen and younger players enjoying Elder Scrolls, who should be brought up better than feeling like they need to curse in almost every sentence. There is more than enough material out there assaulting our ears and intelligence, and I greatly appreciate ES has not stooped as low. It is one of the VERY few that stands out from a heavily overcrowded mass.
If you are so desperate to actually want to ingest tasteless filth, there is more then plenty for you elsewhere...2 -
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First, please remove most of exaggerated chat restrictions. For example cannot write to whisper to me since the word in between is not allowedThis is a M-rated game. Let us feel immersed in M-rated content. . In a M-rated game? PC EU (PL): 14 characters. ESO player since 06.08.2015. Farkas finest quote: "Some people don't think I'm smart. Those people get my fist. But you, I like."0 -
tdannay_ESO✭✭Profanity should be done ES3-style, with region/race-specific swears and insults. N'wah and s'wit really made me feel like a proper outlander. Real-life swear words are cheap and result in lazy dialogue writing.1
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RizaHawkeye✭✭✭✭I have to agree. I'm so tired of the single wounded animation ... "I-am-wounded-holding-my-shoulder" ... that or dead, there's really no third option.
One improvement could be a simple dialog addition for people who are wounded. There are some now but they're really kind of unrealistic. "Woe is me!" Yeah. People are in pain, they should sound like it.
I liked decapitating bandits in Skyrim. Not sure why it's not in the game. I mean, whirwind? Heads should be flying.
I have no problem with more adult or mature content so long as the content comes with consequences. "I want to wear revealing, sexy clothing ..." Okay, that should come with an 800 reduction in physical resistance (we'll give you a little for your magicka). Sorry, I'm part of the group that believes if a player toggles off her helmet she should be more susceptible to head injuries.
Other mature themes could be included as well:
"I am the Hero of Daggerfall ... "
"Then this your kid, you no good runaway father ..."
Of course, "that brat ain't mine ..." should be a dialog option (ah, Skyrim memories).
About ten days after a visit to a brothel, you could experience an uncomfortable, burning sensation (accompanied by a 50% reduction in combat effectiveness). You'd have to find a healer, of course, and then the word would get out ...
"Hey, look it's the Hero of ... no, wait ... I know that guy! Stay away from me AND my horse."
Certain upstanding - and clean - merchants would avoid you and refuse to accept your trade. On the other hand, certain slimy people would accost you on the street for ... services. King Emeric would greet you with much less enthusiasm:
"You again? Sigh. Fine. But don't touch me."
Or we could not do it at all.
Edited by RizaHawkeye on September 11, 2016 8:18PMWar does not determine who is right - only who is left.
The heroes during times of war, are nothing but mass murderers during times of peace.
Riza Hawkeye
Learn to play, or resign to become one of pieces that is meant to be sacrificed.
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✭You cannot predict what vulgar statements/conversations players will talk about in-game therefore the decision of ESO being M-Rated/18+ has to do with that (I think). Adding Gore, Profanity and more Violence simply because that rating is there seems questionable but doubt it's the direction ZOS want to take...
However I do agree selected NPC dialog would be more believable if they was to use mild profanity occasionally.
The game content itself is M-Rated. Online interaction is not part of that rating... for the very reason you described.0 -
Dromede✭✭✭✭I don't mind profanity much, but i would profanity being lore and tradition based, not just random rl swears all over the dialogs.
When it comes to blood, i'd personally not approve. In games that offer you an option to turn blood effects off/on, i always chose off. I have pretty vivid imagination and almost 'feel' most visuals.Skye Cloude - Sorc DPS, Master Crafter. Main, the bestest
Lae Lenne - Templar Healer Trial grade.
Dromede - Stamina Nightblade, she's a newb and doesn't know what she's doing
V'oghatta - Stamplar pretending to be a tank
Ulville Thonvella - aspiring Fire Mage, be careful around her fire sticks!
Dromedaris - lost and not found. Named after a shoe, what else can you expect from her? A proper tank in her wildest dreams
Swims-Naked - too pretty to grind, too silly to quest.
Sun Flair - Dunmer Templar that can't spell for life. To bad she's too broke to afford a name change... Well, at least she's pretty...0 -
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I know, right? On that matter... noticed how "dead" is also lacking in options? We have "died peacefully, looks like sleeping" corpses, and we have "charred husk" corpses, and we have "long dead" skeletons. That's it. Nothing in between. No "hacked up and missing a few limbs", no "strangled and blue in the face" no "drowned and bloated from the water" no "half eaten by wild animals and swarming with maggots"...RizaHawkeye wrote: »I have to agree. I'm so tired of the single wounded animation ... "I-am-wounded-holding-my-shoulder" ... that or dead, there's really no third option.
Oh, and by the way... ever noticed how the people you occasionally rescue somewhere are all neatly dressed? No dirt or damaged clothing, no matter if they were just barely rescued from that burning building or pulled frum under the rubble or held captive by wood orcs (though I do like the things unsaid in that dialouge... reading between the lines, I never ever not helped her slaughter the wood orcs...)
...yes! Yes! YES!!!RizaHawkeye wrote: »I have no problem with more adult or mature content so long as the content comes with consequences...
I adore consequences!
I would fully support "hiding helmet" costing you critical resistance!
I would fully support "civilian clothing" costumes negating your armor stats while worn!
I would fully support brothels, and chances of getting that nasty seven year itch if you frequent them. And all the giggles and sermoning the claric who you seek out to cure it may make about the state of your private parts!
I would fully support other consequences to encounters of the carnal kind, nine months after (or in the case of female PCs, an certain alchemical brew they may need to find or take a break from adventuring for a while and indulge in experiencing morning sickness)
I would fully support an enhanced reputation system, where your deeds, good or bad, respectable or... otherwise... might affect the words NPCs have for you. Up to and including geing locked out from some quests due to your reputation scaring off the quest giver, though that would cut both ways - a bad reputation with the pious would equal a good reputation with the sinful, right?
BtW, In that spirit... I would so love it if they added mutually exclusive guild systems. Like, an "city guard" guild (Iron Wheel, anyone?) or a "honest merchants" guild that only characters who are not members of the thieves guild or dark brotherhood can join. A smugglers guild that may accept thives or merchants, but not assassins or guards. Et cetera... I'd buy more downloads for those in a heartbeat!2