Let's Talk About M-Rated Content, Bruh.

  • AverageJo3Gam3r
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    nine9six wrote: »
    If I have to verify my age every time I go to their website there needs to be more...content...to warrant it.

    @nine9six that has to do with COPPA compliance and nothing to do with content.
  • nine9six
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    IDC. More titties.
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  • SantieClaws
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    Khajiit appreciates that she will never truly be able to let the breeze waft freely through all of her fur.

    This one would however like a little choice of underwear whilst stating she is grateful yes that we are no longer wearing the sackcloth horror pants that were in the beta.

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  • bebynnag
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    I have noticed this game is all over the place in respect to its M rating. Various quest dialog and books you find certainly have "adult" overtones yet the accompanying visuals are lacking. No blood or even signs of injury when people and monsters are killed. Almost all armor and clothing is virtually suited to nuns and priests. I don't want to see G-strings and six inch high heels but some more skin would be nice. This request comes up constantly though and ZOS has steadfastly not responded to it.

    Low level dunmer and argonin armor shows off quite a bit of skin, as well as a few costumes. The new Minotaur style does as well.

    Be reasonable about this, our characters are fighting battles and wars, why would they do it with their bits getting a good draft?

    my tank was as big & as ugly as i could make her (before race change) & i would take her into PvP dressed in revealing costumes, and more often than not the enemy players would be so disgusted by the sight they would run away, some even started slotting the vomit emote!
  • subtlezeroub17_ESO
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    Agreed. Add more raunch to the game. Do not pg-13'ify the game. Let your creativity flow.

    More boobs (for the gents and lesbians) and man bulges (for the ladies and gays) for all!
    Edited by subtlezeroub17_ESO on September 9, 2016 2:30PM
  • bebynnag
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    As a father who often plays in the presence of my kids, I do not approve this thread. If you want nudity, go watch ***. If you want gore, go watch saw. If you want to hang out with friends in a great game, play ESO. Don't mix genres.

    the original post isnt calling for nudity or violence, it is asking for lore appropriate dialogue/interactions that are of an adult nature (because they were present in previous games and their absence is notable) & more realistic battle scenes.

    the cut scene that accompanies Blade of Woe can be turned off under settings, as can dialogue, im sure if more realistic battle animations were introduced they could be toggled off under setting for those who dont wish to (or in your case dont want their children) to view said content
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    Keep in mind that not everyone lives in the US, so there are a lot of people living in countries with different ratings. In some countries (including my homecountry) eso is currently rated 16+. Any addition that would change the game to 18+ would probably cause a lot trouble since usually when I order an 18+ game on e.g. amazon the mailman has to check my id before he is allowed to deliver the game. So I guess zos would have to check everyones id.
    Furthermore there are also countries with stricter ratings than the US, so it can happen that games that are still m rated will be completely banned in other countries.

    I guess the only solution would probably be a "hardcore" dlc that can only be purchased if you are living in a certain country but to be honest I think there are much more important things for the devs to do than adding more blood and nudity.
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    I agree OP, it seems like ZOS goes out of their way to water down everything great about TES while also making the world feel more like a cheap Saturday morning kids' cartoon.
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Absolutely great feedback and suggestion, everyone. Also, thank you for the support. I don't know why ZOS is so bent on making ESO so damn mild, and yet give it a M rating. I mean as I said, I'm not asking they go overboard with the adult/mature content. But, at least allow us to get our fill of content, being as it is supposed to be a game for an overall mature audience. Also, the majority of the player base is 18+ years old. I'd be willing to say 21+ in fact. So, what exactly ZOS is afraid of — I have no idea.
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    As a father who often plays in the presence of my kids, I do not approve this thread. If you want nudity, go watch ***. If you want gore, go watch saw. If you want to hang out with friends in a great game, play ESO. Don't mix genres.

    I hope you don't use blade of woe around the kids AverageJo3 .
  • AverageJo3Gam3r
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    @Rohamad_Ali never even started the DB or theives guild quests. If I wanted to play a stealth game, I would have played MGS or assassins creed. Spend most of my time in dungeons/trials or PvP.
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    As a father who often plays in the presence of my kids, I do not approve this thread. If you want nudity, go watch ***. If you want gore, go watch saw. If you want to hang out with friends in a great game, play ESO. Don't mix genres.

    I hope you don't use blade of woe around the kids AverageJo3 .

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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    @Rohamad_Ali never even started the DB or theives guild quests. If I wanted to play a stealth game, I would have played MGS or assassins creed. Spend most of my time in dungeons/trials or PvP.

    Good Dad then . It's too violent . MGS and Assasins Creed are some of my favorites but I only have a puppy and a kitten in the house so I don't think they can see all the way up to the monitor . If they get on my lap while playing I cover thier eyes before blade of woe attack .
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    As a father who often plays in the presence of my kids, I do not approve this thread. If you want nudity, go watch ***. If you want gore, go watch saw. If you want to hang out with friends in a great game, play ESO. Don't mix genres.

    I hope you don't use blade of woe around the kids AverageJo3 .

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  • Strider_Roshin
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    ZOS, can we please have more M-rated content in this game? Please? I'm not saying you have to go full GTA or Duke Nukem, but this is an Elder Scrolls game at the end of the day.

    There are bandits and skirmishers. There are assassins and pirates. There are people who pray to Sithis and summon Daedra, and also stab you up in your sleep for coin. You know? So why is there no profanity??? Why is there no nudity, or more revealing attire? You walk into a town, and you should see drunk NPC's stumbling about and getting cussed at by guards. You walk into an inn, and you should see prostitutes trying to offer you their services. You should overhear mercenaries talking about their latest raids, and gruesome battles of glory. You know? Make it really feel like we are in this world from this age in time. I'm not saying that you have to walk into an inn and see elf or whatever shaking their uncovered lady-bits on a table. But still. C'mon now.

    As for battles, there should be way more gore. Nothing is pretty about conflict and violence. Nothing. Nothing is pretty. And while I appreciate the little things you do, like having people vomit up acid and fall into their own bubbling acids when killed by poison. Or the actions done by the blade of woe, when you poke someone in the tummy and then the eye. I feel there should be definitely more graphic depictions of violence. This is a M-rated game. You get with an arrow, you shouldn't just fall over dead. Lol WTF? You get hit with an arrow, your character should drop to their knees and then topple over. You hit someone with an uppercut of a battle-axe or greatsword and blood should fly. I mean a spurt or spray. You LITERALLY just uppercutted flesh with a razor-sharp weapon the size of half their body. Sometimes as big as their body. And you mean to tell me that no blood goes flying? Lmao. Or if you hit metal, you should see sparks go flying off. You catch someone or something with your talons as a DK, those talons should impale your target(s). Not just hold them in a prison. A burning talon CC should be just that that. A flaming talon impaling your target, and locking them in place. You know? Or if you whip someone with a Flame Lash, let embers falling off their skin. You're literally whipping someone with fire. Let smoke fly off upon impact. Let their be burn marks on your target. If werewolves can slash you up, and have you looking a blood-soaked mess — why can't other forms of violence be depicted? Werewolves out and about munching on dead corpses, and vampires sucking torrents of blood out of people like a Mortal Kombat fatality. WTF ZOS? Let people be immersed in combat.

    This is a M-rated game. Let us feel immersed in M-rated content. I'm not saying that you have to go overboard, but let us truly feel like we are submerged in this cruel and harsh world. I mean this is a world where Dunmer enslave Argonians, and Altmer treat other races like scum due to their right to do so (High Elf power!). Let use actually be immersed.

    You must not work in medicine. I'm perfectly fine with the realistic amount of gore being displayed in this game. If anything there's too much blood with these blade of woe kills. Too much gore makes me cringe. Not because it bothers me emotionally, but more so because it looks cheesy.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    ZOS, can we please have more M-rated content in this game? Please? I'm not saying you have to go full GTA or Duke Nukem, but this is an Elder Scrolls game at the end of the day.

    There are bandits and skirmishers. There are assassins and pirates. There are people who pray to Sithis and summon Daedra, and also stab you up in your sleep for coin. You know? So why is there no profanity??? Why is there no nudity, or more revealing attire? You walk into a town, and you should see drunk NPC's stumbling about and getting cussed at by guards. You walk into an inn, and you should see prostitutes trying to offer you their services. You should overhear mercenaries talking about their latest raids, and gruesome battles of glory. You know? Make it really feel like we are in this world from this age in time. I'm not saying that you have to walk into an inn and see elf or whatever shaking their uncovered lady-bits on a table. But still. C'mon now.

    As for battles, there should be way more gore. Nothing is pretty about conflict and violence. Nothing. Nothing is pretty. And while I appreciate the little things you do, like having people vomit up acid and fall into their own bubbling acids when killed by poison. Or the actions done by the blade of woe, when you poke someone in the tummy and then the eye. I feel there should be definitely more graphic depictions of violence. This is a M-rated game. You get with an arrow, you shouldn't just fall over dead. Lol WTF? You get hit with an arrow, your character should drop to their knees and then topple over. You hit someone with an uppercut of a battle-axe or greatsword and blood should fly. I mean a spurt or spray. You LITERALLY just uppercutted flesh with a razor-sharp weapon the size of half their body. Sometimes as big as their body. And you mean to tell me that no blood goes flying? Lmao. Or if you hit metal, you should see sparks go flying off. You catch someone or something with your talons as a DK, those talons should impale your target(s). Not just hold them in a prison. A burning talon CC should be just that that. A flaming talon impaling your target, and locking them in place. You know? Or if you whip someone with a Flame Lash, let embers falling off their skin. You're literally whipping someone with fire. Let smoke fly off upon impact. Let their be burn marks on your target. If werewolves can slash you up, and have you looking a blood-soaked mess — why can't other forms of violence be depicted? Werewolves out and about munching on dead corpses, and vampires sucking torrents of blood out of people like a Mortal Kombat fatality. WTF ZOS? Let people be immersed in combat.

    This is a M-rated game. Let us feel immersed in M-rated content. I'm not saying that you have to go overboard, but let us truly feel like we are submerged in this cruel and harsh world. I mean this is a world where Dunmer enslave Argonians, and Altmer treat other races like scum due to their right to do so (High Elf power!). Let use actually be immersed.

    You must not work in medicine. I'm perfectly fine with the realistic amount of gore being displayed in this game. If anything there's too much blood with these blade of woe kills. Too much gore makes me cringe. Not because it bothers me emotionally, but more so because it looks cheesy.

    Actually as a citizen of L.A. , I've witnessed a few stabbing in the real world . I would say they down play the violence . Just with a medium sized knife I seen a guy spilling fluids and chunks of stuff all over the pavement . I imagine a knife the size of the blade of woe would do much worse in pulling things out . I may not work in medicine but I've seen how nasty knife wounds bleed every where for reals .
    Edited by Rohamad_Ali on September 9, 2016 3:27PM
  • Ch4mpTW
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    @Rohamad_Ali never even started the DB or theives guild quests. If I wanted to play a stealth game, I would have played MGS or assassins creed. Spend most of my time in dungeons/trials or PvP.

    Good Dad then . It's too violent . MGS and Assasins Creed are some of my favorites but I only have a puppy and a kitten in the house so I don't think they can see all the way up to the monitor . If they get on my lap while playing I cover thier eyes before blade of woe attack .

    Bruh, I grew-up with my parents allowing me to play mature-rated games. Why? Because I knew the difference between what's on the TV, and real life. For example, 1 of my first ever video games was Mortal Kombat. I didn't go to school after playing MK, and try to roundhouse my classmates in the playground. I didn't try to uppercut my teacher, if she annoyed me. It was about understanding reality from fantasy. And nowadays, I feel things are just so soft are people are too sensitive to even teach the difference between the 2 to minors.

    For example, why would Little Jimmy go to class the next day and attempt to perform a black sacrament assassination on 1 of his classmates, all because he saw it in a game being played by the parent? If the parent was properly teaching the kid right from wrong, and teaching the difference between fiction and non-fiction — that shouldn't/wouldn't be problem, bruh-bruh. And if ZOS is keeping things mild for reasons like that, I'm thoroughly disappointed. Little Jimmy should know better than to attempt to summon the Dark Brotherhood, by taking a pair of scissors or a drawing tools to his classmates. =\
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    What do you mean more mature stuff? In the past Elder scrolls games you really did not have that much swearing and cursing in the sense of our world. They have insults like N'wah, Fetcher, Milk drinker, and S'wit but none of the words that you consider mature. What really constitutes as nudity? There are plenty of half naked npcs and players while also wearing skimpy clothes. The closest to the nudity that you probably want was in Morrowind from Khajiit females. When they were naked they did not have a bra but there was not any features there.

    There is plenty of sexual themes and innuendos through out the game. Start reading most of the books and listen to the dialogue. It is there. There is plenty of blood in the game and there several scenes of violence though out the game. Examples impale bodies, cannibalism, blood and blood gushing sounds, flesh laying around, sounds of pain, skeletons in torture devices, Npc being tortured, corpse piles, and severed creatures head. There is plenty of gore in the game it just not as excessive as you may want. The only elder scrolls game that had some form of dismemberment that players can do was in Skyrim and even then it was just cutting heads off. Blood still was not that excessive. The most blood I have seen from an Elder scrolls game in general is from this game. The killing scenes from the blade of woe and the vampire draining blood is lot more bloody then any other Elder scrolls game before. There is plenty of this in the game already and the excessive gore that you want from an Elder scrolls game has not really been in Elder games before. So you really cannot use that excuse to put more gore in the game to suit your tastes.

    Yes exactly. You don't have to have f bombs every 5 seconds for it to be an M game. ES games are not about that as stated in the dozen or so other threads about this. There are plenty of things in the game to give it the rating it has. If the OP wants more, there are other games out there.
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  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    @Rohamad_Ali never even started the DB or theives guild quests. If I wanted to play a stealth game, I would have played MGS or assassins creed. Spend most of my time in dungeons/trials or PvP.

    Good Dad then . It's too violent . MGS and Assasins Creed are some of my favorites but I only have a puppy and a kitten in the house so I don't think they can see all the way up to the monitor . If they get on my lap while playing I cover thier eyes before blade of woe attack .

    Bruh, I grew-up with my parents allowing me to play mature-rated games. Why? Because I knew the difference between what's on the TV, and real life. For example, 1 of my first ever video games was Mortal Kombat. I didn't go to school after playing MK, and try to roundhouse my classmates in the playground. I didn't try to uppercut my teacher, if she annoyed me. It was about understanding reality from fantasy. And nowadays, I feel things are just so soft are people are too sensitive to even teach the difference between the 2 to minors.

    For example, why would Little Jimmy go to class the next day and attempt to perform a black sacrament assassination on 1 of his classmates, all because he saw it in a game being played by the parent? If the parent was properly teaching the kid right from wrong, and teaching the difference between fiction and non-fiction — that shouldn't/wouldn't be problem, bruh-bruh. And if ZOS is keeping things mild for reasons like that, I'm thoroughly disappointed. Little Jimmy should know better than to attempt to summon the Dark Brotherhood, by taking a pair of scissors or a drawing tools to his classmates. =\

    Yeah but I protect my puppy from too much violence so I will always cover here eyes around blade of woe . Someone needs to think of the puppies and kittens .
  • Dymence
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    stop this bruh *** pls it triggers me
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Go to the inn in Ebonheart.

    P.S. nudity and profanity isn't the only things why a game can be rated M.
    Edited by Forestd16b14_ESO on September 9, 2016 3:32PM
  • Kahl_dur
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    Before release, the devs were hoping for a Teen rating for ESO -- not Mature. Pete Hines was disappointed with the M rating.

    http://skyrimfansite.com/elder-scrolls-online-m-rating-comes-surprise/
  • DMuehlhausen
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    KICHZY wrote: »
    You cannot predict what vulgar statements/conversations players will talk about in-game therefore the decision of ESO being M-Rated/18+ has to do with that (I think). Adding Gore, Profanity and more Violence simply because that rating is there seems questionable but doubt it's the direction ZOS want to take...

    However I do agree selected NPC dialog would be more believable if they was to use mild profanity occasionally.

    But bruh... The immersion and logic at hand. Like the example I made, if you get hit with a huge, razor-sharp, weapon — blood should go flying. You hit something with a Dizzying Swing nowadays, and the target just gets knocked up in the air and that's it. Lol WTF? Especially targets wearing nothing but leather or silk? Bruh, if you hit flesh/skin in an uppercut fashion with a large and sharp weapon there should definitely be blood. You use Puncture, and blood should spill out a bit. You just stabbed something in the gut with a sharp sword; tip first, in a thrusting motion (lol behave). And you're telling me there should be no blood effect...?

    Sure but as somebody else pointed out earlier. Blood spray or particles like that would slow you down. If they did tat you'd probably be OMFG so awesome!!! Oh wait why did my system just drop to 5 fps. WTF ZOS L2 Code!
  • DUTCH_REAPER
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    I believe you can have and play a great game with little to no profanity in it. If that is so desirable maybe get a mod created for it? But leave the core game without it.

    Especially since TS and discord have moooore than enough f bombs dropped to make up for it when in group. More gore though? Sure sounds cool.
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    Coming to this from playing Dragon Age & The Witcher, did think ESO was a bit..........tame.

    Edited by Hallothiel on September 9, 2016 5:36PM
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    Zeni would never allow anything more mature than the phrase, "darn" into their game. They do a damn good job at keeping an M rated game updated with only E rated content. Most people hear a whole dictionary of profanity from their parents and friends as they grow up, but oh no we have to censor EVERYTHING in an online game about killing people.
    Edited by Stovahkiin on September 9, 2016 5:40PM
    Beware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!
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    I vote a big YES for this. I at least would like to see blood splatter on a kill and head decapitation like in Skyrim
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    Stovahkiin wrote: »
    Zeni would never allow anything more mature than the phrase, "darn" into their game. They do a damn good job at keeping an M rated game updated with only E rated content. Most people hear a whole dictionary of profanity from their parents and friends as they grow up, but oh no we have to censor EVERYTHING in an online game about killing people.
    I vote a big YES for this. I at least would like to see blood splatter on a kill and head decapitation like in Skyrim

    I agree with both of you, and thanks for the support. I don't know why ESO is so... So... "Tame" as @Hallothiel put it. It's a fantastic and wonderful game; don't get me wrong. But, games like those he listed make this game look like a Disney game. Lol.
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    @Ch4mpTW

    Even Fable was less Disney....

    And just to let you know I am one of those 'strange' females that love gaming. :p
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