Maintenance for the week of April 6:
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 6
• PC/Mac: No maintenance – April 6
So i sub for a month, I lose a week of it in maintenance!!
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Thats 1/4 the total time i paid, already 4 days of maintenances a month and an extra 2-3 unexpected maintenances!!
and yes every one takes from half to a full day.
Some kind of compensation is a must, otherwise im not paying another penny on this game
and yes every one takes from half to a full day.
Some kind of compensation is a must, otherwise im not paying another penny on this game
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EnOeZ✭✭✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Thats 1/4 the total time i paid, already 4 days of maintenances a month and an extra 2-3 unexpected maintenances!!
and yes every one takes from half to a full day.
Some kind of compensation is a must, otherwise im not paying another penny on this game
Similarly with low end internet connections, you loose 2 days when other update the game in less than an hour.
But who cares right ?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Thats 1/4 the total time i paid, already 4 days of maintenances a month and an extra 2-3 unexpected maintenances!!
and yes every one takes from half to a full day.
Some kind of compensation is a must, otherwise im not paying another penny on this game
You're aware that this thread will probably be closed, due to it having a threat in it toward ZOS — correct? While I certainly understand your frustration at this situation, it doesn't mean you have to go and break forum rules. Just saying, bruh.
And by the way, I hope the EU servers get fixed in a timely fashion,
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azura_star✭✭✭If they don't do maintenance, you won't be playing the game at all. And then your subscription really will be a waste of money.
Every online game does maintenance; it's a fact of gaming. Add to the fact that ESO has a large player base and is churning out new content at a very rapid rate, and I don't understand why anyone is surprised still by how much maintenance there is.21 -
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✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Thats 1/4 the total time i paid, already 4 days of maintenances a month and an extra 2-3 unexpected maintenances!!
and yes every one takes from half to a full day.
Some kind of compensation is a must, otherwise im not paying another penny on this game
You're aware that this thread will probably be closed, due to it having a threat in it toward ZOS — correct? While I certainly understand your frustration at this situation, it doesn't mean you have to go and break forum rules. Just saying, bruh.
And by the way, I hope the EU servers get fixed in a timely fashion,
Lol thats not against forum rules, thats an unsatisfied customer who wants compensation,
if they can't handle a post like that then they even worse and even more reason for me not to pay them more money.
A threat means a real life threat, not a threat to stop paying
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✭✭azura_star wrote: »If they don't do maintenance, you won't be playing the game at all. And then your subscription really will be a waste of money.
Every online game does maintenance; it's a fact of gaming. Add to the fact that ESO has a large player base and is churning out new content at a very rapid rate, and I don't understand why anyone is surprised still by how much maintenance there is.
I seriously can't beleive you are defending ZOS right now!!! wow when will you actually admit they are wrong!??10 -
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✭azura_star wrote: »If they don't do maintenance, you won't be playing the game at all. And then your subscription really will be a waste of money.
Every online game does maintenance; it's a fact of gaming. Add to the fact that ESO has a large player base and is churning out new content at a very rapid rate, and I don't understand why anyone is surprised still by how much maintenance there is.
Because other players have played other MMORPGs and know the norm in terms of server down time. Just take a look at the other big contender, Guild Wars 2. In my 4 years of playing that game, I don't remember them ever having this much server down time. Patches (even big ones) are applied on the live servers, and simply require players to exit the game, download the patch and start playing immediately. And there isn't a subscription model, either.
Even what I would consider as poorly made/managed MMORPGs have regular scheduled server maintenance, with little to no unexpected downtime. Blade and Soul comes to mind.
In addition to that, most MMORPGs give an expected duration of server maintenance!Kiss the chaos.11 -
Nysara✭✭✭This game runs by amateurs so what you expect? There will be no refund or compensation.
Keeping this attitude towards to players will be their downfall eventually. Most of the players here playing for title not for ZoS. I hope they realize this soon. Because each passing day, playerbase is shrinking. And I'm sure more people cancelling ESO+ with each passing day due to very poor server managements and customer care.Edited by Nysara on September 8, 2016 10:35AM8 -
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We had planned maintenance on Monday. No problem with that. Then we had an outage yesterday, and an unplanned maintenance today. We also had several similar unplanned events in August. That's the problem.azura_star wrote: »If they don't do maintenance, you won't be playing the game at all. And then your subscription really will be a waste of money.
Every online game does maintenance; it's a fact of gaming. Add to the fact that ESO has a large player base and is churning out new content at a very rapid rate, and I don't understand why anyone is surprised still by how much maintenance there is.6 -
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✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Thats 1/4 the total time i paid, already 4 days of maintenances a month and an extra 2-3 unexpected maintenances!!
and yes every one takes from half to a full day.
Some kind of compensation is a must, otherwise im not paying another penny on this game
Every MMORPG has maintenance, so deal with it.
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subtlezeroub17_ESO✭✭✭✭I think some of these posters are mmorpg newbies. They just don't understand.9 -
RobboEU✭✭✭/reverts back to my ESO+ members must be rewarded with some form of compensation for this ridiculous amount of down time1
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tat2mano✭✭✭✭azura_star wrote: »If they don't do maintenance, you won't be playing the game at all. And then your subscription really will be a waste of money.
Every online game does maintenance; it's a fact of gaming. Add to the fact that ESO has a large player base and is churning out new content at a very rapid rate, and I don't understand why anyone is surprised still by how much maintenance there is.
I am planning to start a bussiness soon and am looking for easy to please costumers,
can i count you in?7 -
tat2mano✭✭✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Thats 1/4 the total time i paid, already 4 days of maintenances a month and an extra 2-3 unexpected maintenances!!
and yes every one takes from half to a full day.
Some kind of compensation is a must, otherwise im not paying another penny on this game
I totally agree,thats why i made this poll a while back,
i suggest you go and put a vote down there.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/285046/24-hours-of-eso-refund-when-downtimes-exceed-24-hours-in-30-days#latest1 -
tat2mano✭✭✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Thats 1/4 the total time i paid, already 4 days of maintenances a month and an extra 2-3 unexpected maintenances!!
and yes every one takes from half to a full day.
Some kind of compensation is a must, otherwise im not paying another penny on this game
Every MMORPG has maintenance, so deal with it.
wow,being Salty against players being Salty over downtime,
must be a new kind of Salty....1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It didn't bother me much before, but lately it seems that every maintenance has to be extended.
If there is one thing that I miss from GW2, it is the way they patched the game.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
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Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
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Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
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Nemoth✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Thats 1/4 the total time i paid, already 4 days of maintenances a month and an extra 2-3 unexpected maintenances!!
and yes every one takes from half to a full day.
Some kind of compensation is a must, otherwise im not paying another penny on this game
I totally agree,thats why i made this poll a while back,
i suggest you go and put a vote down there.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/285046/24-hours-of-eso-refund-when-downtimes-exceed-24-hours-in-30-days#latest
I understand you need to promote your failure of a poll in every thread, but could you dial it down a bit? It's getting annoying and the poll clearly shows that most people don't agree with you.
Also, I don't see the maintenances taking 12-24 hours, so I don't know what this "half to full day" nonsense is supposed to mean. If you don't like that there are server downtimes and unexpected maintenances I'd suggest you to calm down, read the ToS and EULA that you agreed to when you started playing this game and then go do something else. I understand that unless you get your 8h+ a day of ESO everyday your life is in shambles, but try to diversify your hobbies a little bit.4 -
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✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Thats 1/4 the total time i paid, already 4 days of maintenances a month and an extra 2-3 unexpected maintenances!!
and yes every one takes from half to a full day.
Some kind of compensation is a must, otherwise im not paying another penny on this game
I totally agree,thats why i made this poll a while back,
i suggest you go and put a vote down there.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/285046/24-hours-of-eso-refund-when-downtimes-exceed-24-hours-in-30-days#latest
I understand you need to promote your failure of a poll in every thread, but could you dial it down a bit? It's getting annoying and the poll clearly shows that most people don't agree with you.
Also, I don't see the maintenances taking 12-24 hours, so I don't know what this "half to full day" nonsense is supposed to mean. If you don't like that there are server downtimes and unexpected maintenances I'd suggest you to calm down, read the ToS and EULA that you agreed to when you started playing this game and then go do something else. I understand that unless you get your 8h+ a day of ESO everyday your life is in shambles, but try to diversify your hobbies a little bit.
Its takes 6-12 hours of prime EU time, sorry for not waking up to play at 3 am just so I can the game while servers are still up!!
Seriously I cant beleive the people defending ZOS, you will litrally defend anything they do and thats why you will always keep getting *** service cause you encourage them to remain as bad as they are
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Nemoth✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Bigevilpeter wrote: »Thats 1/4 the total time i paid, already 4 days of maintenances a month and an extra 2-3 unexpected maintenances!!
and yes every one takes from half to a full day.
Some kind of compensation is a must, otherwise im not paying another penny on this game
I totally agree,thats why i made this poll a while back,
i suggest you go and put a vote down there.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/285046/24-hours-of-eso-refund-when-downtimes-exceed-24-hours-in-30-days#latest
I understand you need to promote your failure of a poll in every thread, but could you dial it down a bit? It's getting annoying and the poll clearly shows that most people don't agree with you.
Also, I don't see the maintenances taking 12-24 hours, so I don't know what this "half to full day" nonsense is supposed to mean. If you don't like that there are server downtimes and unexpected maintenances I'd suggest you to calm down, read the ToS and EULA that you agreed to when you started playing this game and then go do something else. I understand that unless you get your 8h+ a day of ESO everyday your life is in shambles, but try to diversify your hobbies a little bit.
Its takes 6-12 hours of prime EU time, sorry for not waking up to play at 3 am just so I can the game while servers are still up!!
Seriously I cant beleive the people defending ZOS, you will litrally defend anything they do and thats why you will always keep getting *** service cause you encourage them to remain as bad as they are
Since when is morning and early afternoon prime time for EU? Do you even live in EU? Yesterday's downtime was from 8 am to like 2-3 pm afaik. Hardly a prime time when majority of the people are at work anyway. Today was from 7 am to 1 pm. Nowhere near prime time either.
Prime time doesn't mean "whenever I want to play", prime time is when most people actually play. I'll bet you anything you want that morning and early afternoon are absolutely not a prime time in any sense of the word.3 -
elvenmad✭✭✭✭✭azura_star wrote: »If they don't do maintenance, you won't be playing the game at all. And then your subscription really will be a waste of money.
Every online game does maintenance; it's a fact of gaming. Add to the fact that ESO has a large player base and is churning out new content at a very rapid rate, and I don't understand why anyone is surprised still by how much maintenance there is.
Yes all games have maintenance obviously it is required to keep everything running and up to date, BUT most games have a set date and time for it and to be honest in all my 20+ years of playing practically every MMORPG there as been I have never seen one who's regular scheduled maintenance takes as long as it does with ESO.
yes patch updates and new content do sometimes take time, I expect that but our last one here was like 12 hours !!! and then down again the day after for another 6 and later in the week for more downtime, all these at peak times. the problem I see with ESO is the majority of game downtime and unscheduled maintenances are all to fix mistakes and problems on ESO's end due to not testing.
From what I can gather a lot of the problems we have been having over the past month is due to ESO adding a lot of things into the game in the background ready for when update 12 comes, which kind of does make some sense except update 12 as only just gone live on PTS so all the things they are adding have not even been tested yet and because of how they are doing it we on live are finding all the issues first instead of on pts like it should be, its just bad management trying to push future content without it being checked or tested, so expect more to come in the following weeks.
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Anzriel✭✭✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Bigevilpeter wrote: »Thats 1/4 the total time i paid, already 4 days of maintenances a month and an extra 2-3 unexpected maintenances!!
and yes every one takes from half to a full day.
Some kind of compensation is a must, otherwise im not paying another penny on this game
I totally agree,thats why i made this poll a while back,
i suggest you go and put a vote down there.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/285046/24-hours-of-eso-refund-when-downtimes-exceed-24-hours-in-30-days#latest
I understand you need to promote your failure of a poll in every thread, but could you dial it down a bit? It's getting annoying and the poll clearly shows that most people don't agree with you.
Also, I don't see the maintenances taking 12-24 hours, so I don't know what this "half to full day" nonsense is supposed to mean. If you don't like that there are server downtimes and unexpected maintenances I'd suggest you to calm down, read the ToS and EULA that you agreed to when you started playing this game and then go do something else. I understand that unless you get your 8h+ a day of ESO everyday your life is in shambles, but try to diversify your hobbies a little bit.
Its takes 6-12 hours of prime EU time, sorry for not waking up to play at 3 am just so I can the game while servers are still up!!
Seriously I cant beleive the people defending ZOS, you will litrally defend anything they do and thats why you will always keep getting *** service cause you encourage them to remain as bad as they are
While I agree with you ZOS does a poor job with server/patch maintenance, making false claims of this taking 6-12 hours of primetime just gives fuel to those defending ZOSE. Not that it really matters one way or the other honestly, they've been getting bashed for this kind of nonsense for 2+ years and things are still the same so I imagine nothing will ever change sadly. I think it'd help with PR to give people a few days ESO+ in compensation I don't see them doing anything more than repeating what some others have said in this thread. "Maintenance is a part of any MMO". Given the number of people who keep playing and paying it's little surprise they don't have more urgency working some of this stuff out.2 -
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Could you please tell ONE just ONE popular MMO 2,5 yo that does 4-5-6(more maybe? i lost count) times a month 6-8h maintenance??? Just one please!
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I forgot the time table! Midday EU......Edited by Drakoleon on September 8, 2016 11:26AM4 -
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✭✭Just saying PSO2 does it... If you're premium and maintence takes an extra hour+ or servers go down they award you with a lot of stuff + a day of premium as compensation. That's why I always jokingly called it "Compensation star online 2" instead of Phantasy Star Online 2.不動の Steadfast - Unwavering
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Liptrot✭✭Since when is morning and early afternoon prime time for EU? Do you even live in EU? Yesterday's downtime was from 8 am to like 2-3 pm afaik. Hardly a prime time when majority of the people are at work anyway. Today was from 7 am to 1 pm. Nowhere near prime time either.
Prime time doesn't mean "whenever I want to play", prime time is when most people actually play. I'll bet you anything you want that morning and early afternoon are absolutely not a prime time in any sense of the word.[/quote]
Yeah because everyone in Europe works a 9-5 job don't they0 -
elvenmad✭✭✭✭✭Irrelevant of what their ToS say, which by the way mean nothing legally, ESO+ members ( and non actually as they had to pay for the game to play it) are paying for a service, the service of access to the game.
Now just think if your household electric provider did this, or even your internet provider I think you'd have something to say about it, it is the same thing, you pay for a service and should be provided the service, ok accidents and maintenance is unavoidable in every scenario, but com'on within reason !! and if so it would usually be followed by an apology and in most cases compensation or at least a halt in paid time while there is no service available.< PC - EU >3 -
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mitchtheelder✭✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Thats 1/4 the total time i paid, already 4 days of maintenances a month and an extra 2-3 unexpected maintenances!!
and yes every one takes from half to a full day.
Some kind of compensation is a must, otherwise im not paying another penny on this game
Speak like this and tou will lose the rest lol they will perma ban you lol
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✭✭mitchtheelder wrote: »Bigevilpeter wrote: »Thats 1/4 the total time i paid, already 4 days of maintenances a month and an extra 2-3 unexpected maintenances!!
and yes every one takes from half to a full day.
Some kind of compensation is a must, otherwise im not paying another penny on this game
Speak like this and tou will lose the rest lol they will perma ban you lol
If they perma ban me for that then I really wouldnt care at all cause that woulndn't be a company I would support or play any of its games. I highly doubt they will though4 -
tat2mano✭✭✭✭Bigevilpeter wrote: »Thats 1/4 the total time i paid, already 4 days of maintenances a month and an extra 2-3 unexpected maintenances!!
and yes every one takes from half to a full day.
Some kind of compensation is a must, otherwise im not paying another penny on this game
I totally agree,thats why i made this poll a while back,
i suggest you go and put a vote down there.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en-GB/discussion/285046/24-hours-of-eso-refund-when-downtimes-exceed-24-hours-in-30-days#latest
I understand you need to promote your failure of a poll in every thread, but could you dial it down a bit? It's getting annoying and the poll clearly shows that most people don't agree with you.
Also, I don't see the maintenances taking 12-24 hours, so I don't know what this "half to full day" nonsense is supposed to mean. If you don't like that there are server downtimes and unexpected maintenances I'd suggest you to calm down, read the ToS and EULA that you agreed to when you started playing this game and then go do something else. I understand that unless you get your 8h+ a day of ESO everyday your life is in shambles, but try to diversify your hobbies a little bit.
There comes the common throw to the EULA again..."its getting annoying"...
My poll a faillure?wasnt aware that its a "contest"..
In fact the votes that agreed with my statement have only risen after the first hour,
you are aware there are many white knight fanboys active on the forum,
more then the average eso player so the result is of that poll isn that a big of surprise...
And why should i dial it down as long as i dont break any forum rules,i dont post it in "every thread" i just post it when i see it can be relevant to some comment or post.
And my life being in shambles just because i cant "feed my horse" and do my daily writs and mostly try silver/gold on main char,cause thats mostly all i do lately,
if my life would in shambles cause of that i really would have some issues,
luckily that isnt the case i can inform you
And allthough "half to full day" isnt my statement i have to say the norm is getting very close to that.
I have plenty of other stuff to do and i also practice them well then enough,
but thats not relevant,what is relevant is that i pay for a product and that that product is lacking in its productivity imo,
and enogh to stop subbing untill ZoS shows me they can keep the server running with downtimes below 16 hours during a 30 day period.
Yes my personal demands for keeping me as sub got up lately since the downtimes only got worse instead of less.Edited by tat2mano on September 8, 2016 11:57AM0 -
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Taken from the Terms of Service(ToS), which you are supposed(!!) to read before you download/buy a game. I agree that it's not a very customer-friendly way but legally, ZoS is doing nothing wrong. It sucks, yes. Yes, we can whine. But in the end; We did agree to it.Ignorance is the greatest weapon of tyranny.
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