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Floating Shoulders [Image Heavy]

  • ListerJMC
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    Valorin wrote: »
    There are issues like that with a lot of gear parts, including weapons. There is less clipping now, but instead items hover on the character which is much more annoying to my eyes than clipping, especially with some shoulder parts, belts and also weapons, like dual wielding ones hovering left and right beside my hips in midair. Would be lovely to see a fix for these issues. I really don't use shoulders and belts with are hovering like that, which limits my choice of styles greatly.

    Yep I have issues with floating weapons too, or weapons clipping through hip flaps. I try and avoid them too but I had some of these shoulders made in CP160 before they started floating, and I don't really want to re-craft them.
    Lolssi wrote: »
    Isn't it somehow tied to your character? I mean I have as skinny character as possible and all the shoulders float most of'em horribly even. Most of these pictures aren't even bad. I can often see my whole shoulders underneath armor.
    Planning to beef up my character just because of this a bit now that I can.

    I think it's somewhat tied to character build yeah, but I haven't really tested that. Do you have a picture of the shoulders going through your shoulders? I've never seen that.

    And I think most of these shoulders are okay until you introduce a hood or long hair, then the problem really shows up. What really gets me is that a lot of these shoulders never used to have a floating problem, like I've been using the Mages Guild robes for about a year and they've only just started giving me a haircut.
    Edited by ListerJMC on August 3, 2016 9:04AM
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  • Lolssi
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    ListerJMC wrote: »

    I think it's somewhat tied to character build yeah, but I haven't really tested that. Do you have a picture of the shoulders going through your shoulders? I've never seen that.
    At work so no. But you misunderstood I don't have shoulders going through pauldrons but rather I'm so skinny and short that pauldrons are so high above my shoulders that I can see my bare shoulders often just with regular gameplay.

  • ListerJMC
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    Lolssi wrote: »
    ListerJMC wrote: »

    I think it's somewhat tied to character build yeah, but I haven't really tested that. Do you have a picture of the shoulders going through your shoulders? I've never seen that.
    At work so no. But you misunderstood I don't have shoulders going through pauldrons but rather I'm so skinny and short that pauldrons are so high above my shoulders that I can see my bare shoulders often just with regular gameplay.

    Ah, my mistake. That makes more sense :D.
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  • ListerJMC
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    @OmniDevil's thread reminded me that I needed to update this with more issues I've found, so here are a few more.

    Regalia of the Orsimer King (issue may also extend to Malacath heavy shoulders? I haven't been able to test them):
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    I've reported NPC shawls before in this thread, but I just found out that Jorunn the Skald-King's majestic beard and hair get cut by its floaty-ness:
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    Courier Uniform disguise:
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  • raidentenshu_ESO
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    This outta be the worst case of floating shoulders I've ever seen.

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    I'm surprise to see that the player isn't on here complaining about it.
  • ListerJMC
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    This outta be the worst case of floating shoulders I've ever seen.

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    I'm surprise to see that the player isn't on here complaining about it.

    Oh I've been meaning to update this thread for ages I just keep forgetting to :#. But I actually haven't ever had that particular shoulder drop so I've never seen that one up close, but that is quite terrible!

    Edit: I'm going to work on compiling the screenshots I've taken of more floaty shoulders before I forget again!
    Edited by ListerJMC on January 25, 2017 2:10AM
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  • ListerJMC
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    Ok so here are some more I've found since I last updated this thread.

    Worm's Raiment:

    Worm%2Bfloat%2Bshoulders.jpg

    Xivkyn (light at least, not sure about other weights - and I don't know why the image so small on here):

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    Dunmer (again, light at least):

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    Troll King:

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    Daedric (heavy at least):

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    And I made a better comparison of the Mages Guild clipping, which also effects other sets with shawls such as Breton, Altmer, and Ancient Elf:

    Mages%2BGuild%2Bhair%2Bclipping.jpg

    Also I noticed they fixed the Kena shoulders on PTS in the patch notes, but I can't seem to be able to find it in the consumable crates to screenshot... I'll try and do a comparison between Live and PTS when NA gets copied over again.

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    Now a bit of a tangent, still a floating issue but this time with belts: The belt on the Thieves Guild costume floats but only on females for some reason. And yes, my hair clips through the shield too but I've kinda given up on that because I know the fix will just be to make the shield float away from my back.

    Thieves%2BGuild%2Bbelt.jpg

    Sorry it took me so long to update! I kept forgetting :#. I hope at least some of this may help the art department if they're going to fix more like they did with Kena!
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  • OutLaw_Nynx
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    Can't get a photo right now but valkyn skoria is having some terrible issues with floating
  • ListerJMC
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    Can't get a photo right now but valkyn skoria is having some terrible issues with floating

    Yep! That's in the OP :)

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  • OutLaw_Nynx
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    Oh sorry! The photos weren't loading for me
  • MornaBaine
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    Florating shoulders and the mysterious floating hip flaps on LIGHT armor... in every single case the armor would look better without them. I'm a mage wearing CLOTH! Why do I need armored hip flaps anyway? It is obvious Zeni is no good at doing this particular feature and can't do it right so why do they keep destroying virtually every single piece of light armor they put out?

    I'm not sure what the answer is for shoulders.... but PLEASE just do away with the bizarre hip flaps entirely!
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  • ListerJMC
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    Florating shoulders and the mysterious floating hip flaps on LIGHT armor... in every single case the armor would look better without them. I'm a mage wearing CLOTH! Why do I need armored hip flaps anyway? It is obvious Zeni is no good at doing this particular feature and can't do it right so why do they keep destroying virtually every single piece of light armor they put out?

    I'm not sure what the answer is for shoulders.... but PLEASE just do away with the bizarre hip flaps entirely!

    Hopefully the answer is just to restore gravity to them. A great number of these didn't use to float, they've been raised up in later patches (I'm assuming it was to avoid them clipping, but they still clip and look silly now so...). I know they can sit correctly, because they used to and there are images of them not floating from early on in the game.

    Hip flaps though, I'd love a toggle for those as they ruin some otherwise nice pieces. A toggle for front and back flaps would be nice too, some of them I like but others are really out-of-place looking. Would be a massive project though, hip flaps might be easier since they're so painfully detached already.
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  • Banana
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    Just pretend the floaty bits are magic
  • Gandrhulf_Harbard
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    If we are looking to get floaty shoulders fixed can we also see and end to those ridiculous floaty thigh patches.

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  • sumisu1
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    GROTHDARRRGH :/

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    Edited by sumisu1 on January 25, 2017 2:57PM
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