ZOS for the love of all that is holy and just.

Vangy · August 2016

Dude.... Stop using group finder without a full group of friends who know what they are doing. The tool is meant for newbies to waste 2 hrs in vICP. Literally every time I use it, its a DLC dungeon with some sub-100 CP nubcake who's complicated DPS rotation involves face-mashing bow auto attack with poison injection wearing full heavy.......

I gave up on Group finder without a full group long ago. Just type in my 2 PvE guilds, 600+ CP tank LF gold or vet random = insta invite + at least 15 pms if im already taken =X + guilds normally have good players who know their role. Try enforcing group finder requirements and you will get branded as an elitist here. Just take a few mins, make a few friends and you will never have to deal with all the negatives such as group-disband/nubcakes/trolls etc who show up all the time in GF. Im not saying they will, but why take the chance.

schroed360 · August 2016

Totally agree with op . DLC dungeon should not be part of random normal.
But there is à serious problem with that random tool. Everybody is talking about elitism and whereas in some case I can agree with that train of thought here you are totally out of the matter.
Dungeon where design with an order. IE first 3 dungeon in first zone then 3 of second zone etc until coldharbour one. Each time mechanics gets more complicated or just ask for a more refined build which was the case before ,since you had time to lvl your skill.
Now it can be your first dungeon that doesn t make sense.
And for all the guys calling about elitism i can tell you that i have pull group throught ICP twice. I was in there for a quick random normal and ended after 2 hours run each time . I will never do that again. I mean i could help newer player to get throught thoses dungeon if asked for.But not in a random group. Why? Cause in that case I make sure to find at least another player i trust to be sure that the run would not be so lenghthy...
To end i will say what is better for new the player
- pop a random dungeon/ dlc one/ one or two member leave instantly/ you are left alone totally unable to see Said dungeon. And it s almost sure that it will always be the case ( variance would be advance for 15-30 mn just to failed miserably).
- being explained that those dungeon are hard and thus not accessble in the random tool. But you can get in but you better be prepared(your group) ...same kind of warning that before entering Cyrodil.
- PS : just for factual exemple how a new tank ( lvl 10-20 or even more) is supposed to tank the four image of the last boss in icp without the ranged taunt ?

I m not native and on a phone so sorry for grammar édit and all that.

Humatiel · August 2016

awww look at all the carebears

Leaving out the DLC for nonvet makes perfect sense, the only individuals that might say otherwise are ones who have never had to run with sword and board shuffle w/ puncture "ive got a bow too" dps characters that are doing so low dps you cant even match it because one DoT does more then there entire...lets call it a rotation.

redspecter23 · August 2016

Consider packing your group with friends/guildmates first then queueing up with 3 or 4 players you know can handle it. I occasionally queue solo, but I understand completely what I'm in for when I do. Sometimes, it's just going to be me and 3 level 10 guys that have no clue banging against the Inhibitor's mighty flaming hips until we disband.

Daemons_Bane · August 2016

If you don't want to play with randoms, ddon't sign up for it.. luckily for you, the system allows you to do just that

VaniTealeaf · August 2016

benjamino613 wrote: »

Haha I would form a noob guild whos express purpose was to flood the elitist jerks setting

Where do i sign up!!!
Whaaaaa

Vipstaakki · August 2016

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Can yall either

A.) Prevent players who are new to the game or players under level 30 from being able to queue from any of the DLC dungeons under daily random normal dungeon queue.

or

B.) Just take out the DLC dungeons from daily random normal dungeon queue.

or

C.) Remove the timer for leaving a daily random normal dungeon queue group.

or

D.) All of the above

I smell an elitist here.