ZOS for the love of all that is holy and just.

FearlessOne_2014 · August 2016

Can yall either

A.) Prevent players who are new to the game or players under level 30 from being able to queue from any of the DLC dungeons under daily random normal dungeon queue.

or

B.) Just take out the DLC dungeons from daily random normal dungeon queue.

or

C.) Remove the timer for leaving a daily random normal dungeon queue group.

or

D.) All of the above

vyndral13preub18_ESO · August 2016

Cant. You need new players buying crap before they get bored and quit. Ahh it is fun to be b2p!

BenLocoDete · August 2016

Add a tag system so we can tag 'elitists' and stay the freak away from them forever.

DMuehlhausen · August 2016

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Can yall either

A.) Prevent players who are new to the game or players under level 30 from being able to queue from any of the DLC dungeons under daily random normal dungeon queue.

or

B.) Just take out the DLC dungeons from daily random normal dungeon queue.

or

C.) Remove the timer for leaving a daily random normal dungeon queue group.

or

D.) All of the above

According to your name you should be Fearless enough to attempt the dungeon and maybe pull them through and help them learn what to and not to do.

FearlessOne_2014 · August 2016

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Cant. You need new players buying crap before they get bored and quit. Ahh it is fun to be b2p!

I get that but come on they don't even have a grasp on basic game mechanics let alone advanced mechanics in the DLC dungeons. Mostly just ends up punishing all of the players involve because of the quit group timer. I wish ZOS comment on this. This is a issue. Atleast allow us to either disable DLC dungeons from being apart of our daily random queue, or do away with the quit party timer.

Is that too much to ask guys?

Voxicity · August 2016

A ) no
B ) no
C ) definitely no
D ) ye

no

ThePaleItalian · August 2016

Because A:

Hell with new players playing the game, making it grow and be better because I feel like I am entitled to only play with the best, because I started this game and knew everything from the start and noone ever helped me...

Because B.

Who knows, one of those low lvl players might actually be good and play the same game you do..

Because C;

I kind of wish there wasn't a timer, but its staying so yea.

Because

Elitist wanna be Elite....

/Sarcasm off..

FearlessOne_2014 · August 2016

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Can yall either

A.) Prevent players who are new to the game or players under level 30 from being able to queue from any of the DLC dungeons under daily random normal dungeon queue.

or

B.) Just take out the DLC dungeons from daily random normal dungeon queue.

or

C.) Remove the timer for leaving a daily random normal dungeon queue group.

or

D.) All of the above

According to your name you should be Fearless enough to attempt the dungeon and maybe pull them through and help them learn what to and not to do.

So basically how dare me for not being able to tank, dps, heal and do all of the mechanics, ah? I am more then half of the players in this game wouldn't even bother. I at least tries and get severely punished for my efforts.

FearlessOne_2014 · August 2016

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

Because A:

Hell with new players playing the game, making it grow and be better because I feel like I am entitled to only play with the best, because I started this game and knew everything from the start and noone ever helped me...

Because B.

Who knows, one of those low lvl players might actually be good and play the same game you do..

Because C;

I kind of wish there wasn't a timer, but its staying so yea.

Because

Elitist wanna be Elite....

/Sarcasm off..

So I'm a elistist because I ask to at-least not be punished because of others? I'm not saying they shouldn't be able to queue for it. But I should be able to prevent myself from being pulled into DLC dungeons. Pretty much is punishing me for having paid access to the DLCs, maybe I should just unsubscribe permanently so I don't get punished for supporting ZOS and ESO.

Wow really with all trolls aside is this how yall feel? You brought content, you deserve that timer penalty. For not being able to carry 3 thoes poor new players who can't even make heads and tails of the combat system of this game, let alone throw them in some of the more complex mechanics on top of that. Yall might as well be setting people up for failure just by default of you have paid for content others have not.

Ch4mpTW · August 2016

As frustrating as things may seem, you seem to forget something which is incredibly crucial and paramount in moments/situations like these. And that is that new players have to start-off somewhere. Just like how you did. They have every single right to play the new dungeons as you, and have every single right to have a shot at the loot that drops in them.

FearlessOne_2014 · August 2016

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

As frustrating as things may seem, you seem to forget something which is incredibly crucial and paramount in moments/situations like these. And that is that new players have to start-off somewhere. Just like how you did. They have every single right to play the new dungeons as you, and have every single right to have a shot at the loot that drops in them.

I agree and if you've read my last few posts on this thread, instead of ignoring them because it don't suit you point of view. I'm just now asking for the timer to be removed, or for me to opt out of daily random normal DLC dungeons, till I'm ready to carry players. The fact I get forced and punish for queuing up my little lvl 36 and get one of those harder dungeons that are not even part of the base game, just seems highly unfair not only to me but to anyone else who support this game. Yall saying that I'm a elistists because I feel that being able to have a option to opt in or out of DLC daily random NORMAL dungeons, is just a huge slap in the face from the community and any devs who feel that way is a even either a bigger slap in my face. All at the same while everybody should be able to tick harder DLC content on or off at the player's discretion.

Allow the new players to choose to opt in to them or not, I don't care what others want to queue up for. However to just punish your subscribers or DLC owners because they paid for it, just don't make sense to me.

Divinius · August 2016

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

I get that but come on they don't even have a grasp on basic game mechanics let alone advanced mechanics in the DLC dungeons. Mostly just ends up punishing all of the players involve because of the quit group timer.

While I fully agree that the current way the lockout timer functions is backward and stupid (ZOS needs to fix it, not remove it), the rest of your argument doesn't work.

I've seen level 30 players that totally knew what they were doing (or could quickly adapt), and CP-531 people that were completely clueless beyond hope.

Level alone should never be a deciding factor in who gets to queue for dungeons.

idk · August 2016

@FearlessOne_2014

Sounds like you found something to fear.

Explaining the fights is not that hard. It's also important for players to do to keep the community healthy, keep players in the game that can do the content.

I've healer a new player, lvl 20ish tank and 2 more lowbies through vWGT. Was not hard.

Otherwise, maybe just run with guildies.

RebornV3x · August 2016

Its sucks should be a recommend player level for each dungeon and trial and only level 45s and above should be able to random queue for normal dungeons and level 50 for vet dungeons ( you can still do dungeons and stuff just not random queue or use the group finder)

you should be able to leave a dungeon as long as you don't beat the first boss after that you should get the penalty cause leaving in the middle of a dungeon should be punished but you should be allowed to leave a group before they start the dungeon.

Daemons_Bane · August 2016

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Can yall either

A.) Prevent players who are new to the game or players under level 30 from being able to queue from any of the DLC dungeons under daily random normal dungeon queue.

or

B.) Just take out the DLC dungeons from daily random normal dungeon queue.

or

C.) Remove the timer for leaving a daily random normal dungeon queue group.

or

D.) All of the above

Well, speaking for the new ones since they probably don't use forums yet, F you man

So because they don't live up to your standards, they should be prevented from doing stuff that they have paid for??

ThePaleItalian · August 2016

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

Because A:

Hell with new players playing the game, making it grow and be better because I feel like I am entitled to only play with the best, because I started this game and knew everything from the start and noone ever helped me...

Because B.

Who knows, one of those low lvl players might actually be good and play the same game you do..

Because C;

I kind of wish there wasn't a timer, but its staying so yea.

Because

Elitist wanna be Elite....

/Sarcasm off..

So I'm a elistist because I ask to at-least not be punished because of others? I'm not saying they shouldn't be able to queue for it. But I should be able to prevent myself from being pulled into DLC dungeons. Pretty much is punishing me for having paid access to the DLCs, maybe I should just unsubscribe permanently so I don't get punished for supporting ZOS and ESO.

Wow really with all trolls aside is this how yall feel? You brought content, you deserve that timer penalty. For not being able to carry 3 thoes poor new players who can't even make heads and tails of the combat system of this game, let alone throw them in some of the more complex mechanics on top of that. Yall might as well be setting people up for failure just by default of you have paid for content others have not.

First off, I agreed with you on the timer. It sucks, I get it, it has frustrated me as well... now moving along.

Why not help those 3 poor new players? Weren't you new before? You have never checked a guide? Asked for help? Been carried before? Or shown something that made you a better player? How do you know that people don't think that way about you? How do you know that someone played with you and had the same rant about you?

So you are being punished because you have to play with a player that is new or doesn't have as much skill as you?? Calm down special snowflake. You can unsub and take the toxic with you.

Stoopid_Nwah · August 2016

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

So I'm a elistist because I ask to at-least not be punished because of others? I'm not saying they shouldn't be able to queue for it.

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

A.) Prevent players who are new to the game or players under level 30 from being able to queue from any of the DLC dungeons under daily random normal dungeon queue.

Aurielle · August 2016

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

So I'm a elistist because I ask to at-least not be punished because of others? I'm not saying they shouldn't be able to queue for it. But I should be able to prevent myself from being pulled into DLC dungeons. Pretty much is punishing me for having paid access to the DLCs, maybe I should just unsubscribe permanently so I don't get punished for supporting ZOS and ESO.

Wow really with all trolls aside is this how yall feel? You brought content, you deserve that timer penalty. For not being able to carry 3 thoes poor new players who can't even make heads and tails of the combat system of this game, let alone throw them in some of the more complex mechanics on top of that. Yall might as well be setting people up for failure just by default of you have paid for content others have not.

My suggestion to you is this: chill out a little. Remind yourself that this is a video game, and that you don't have to race through the content as quickly as you can (unless, of course, you have a limited amount of time in which to play, in which case, all I can suggest is to drop the group and try to form one with guild mates or whatever).

If you find yourself grouped with sub-level 30 players who are new to grouping in MMOs, take the time to explain the dungeon mechanics to them. Be able to laugh it off if you wipe once. twice, ten times. New players who have a positive first grouping experience are players who are more likely to stick around, contribute to the game, and ensure you still have other people to play with several months down the line. Raging about them in the forums and asking ZOS to limit their access to dungeons that they may also be paying for (I bought ESO+ at level 15, for instance) is pretty self-serving, and does not contribute to a positive in-game community atmosphere.

Cryptical · August 2016

Never mind.

NewBlacksmurf · August 2016

It's problably a good time to identify that if you're the type of person who doesn't want to play with random people (this includes any types of situations) then you shouldn't use the random group activity feature unless you've manually formed a full group.

benjamino613 · August 2016

I can feel both sides on this, as a new player of only a few weeks (lvl 37), its upsetting to see how some of the experienced experts relate to newer players aka elitism. However i can also relate to them, today i got grouped with a lvl 10 tank, indeed you could tell that he didnt have a grasp on basic mechanics to the point that i could not heal him fast enough before he died. I was not angry or upset, after all he has the same right to dungeon as i do, but the thing really was unplayable so i left and had to wait another 10 mins to play which was irritating yes. I believe the timer should be removed, not bc elitist dnt wnt to play with us noobs but rather so that when they/you have given it a chance and its just nt working, we can all go a merry way

benjamino613 · August 2016

Of course removing from new players any game experience is in my opinion completely unacceptable, do they not have as much rights ti dungeon as anyone else?

Bandit1215 · August 2016

FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »

Can yall either

A.) Prevent players who are new to the game or players under level 30 from being able to queue from any of the DLC dungeons under daily random normal dungeon queue.

or

B.) Just take out the DLC dungeons from daily random normal dungeon queue.

or

C.) Remove the timer for leaving a daily random normal dungeon queue group.

or

D.) All of the above

1. First one is completely stupid. They paid for it so they should be able to play it whenever they want, don't get salty because they get the good RNG (I assume you are talking about low levels farming skins and such in DLC dungeons)
2. Idk why this is an issue as once again, they paid for it so they should be able to use it. If you want to use it/be able to queue for it as well, then buy it.
3. I agree with this, as it doesn't really make sense.

Daemons_Bane · August 2016

Guys, come on, we all know he's right.. Because the best way for them to learn about these dungeon mechanics is by keeping them away from it until they meet his standards.. I know they paid for these dungeons, but they will thank him in the long run /sarcasm

clayandaudrey_ESO · August 2016

Maybe they should add some dungeon levels

Normal
Veteran
Hardmode
Elitist jerks

benjamino613 · August 2016

Haha I would form a noob guild whos express purpose was to flood the elitist jerks setting

Surak73 · August 2016

ThePaleItalian wrote: »

Why not help those 3 poor new players?

Problem is that more often than not poor new players are too poor even for buying an headset, so I can't tell them anything anyway...

UltimaJoe777 · August 2016

E. Let lowbies run the dungeons because they should not be disallowed just because they are lowbies.

bottleofsyrup · August 2016

Not that I agree with OP, but for those of you saying to explain the mechanics, many people just flat out refuse to listen and cannot be helped.

SublimeSparo · August 2016

Either help them through the dungeons or carry them through.

UltimaJoe777 · August 2016

bottleofsyrup wrote: »

Not that I agree with OP, but for those of you saying to explain the mechanics, many people just flat out refuse to listen and cannot be helped.

Then no one would blame you for not wanting to run with them because they are probably trolls.