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BFT88✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »@BFT88 if they move to Haderus will you come back to TF? Pwease?
@God_flakes Honestly at this point, if Haderus becomes PM's new stomping ground, I probably won't have any choice other than returning to TF.
Edited by BFT88 on August 25, 2016 6:56PM2 -
Publius_Scipio✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭As the tide rises and the waves of Pact Militia come crashing on shore, the COVENANT will be the seawall that breaks the waves. The flood pumps will be manned by COVENANT hands! The innocent will take shelter in COVENANT controlled forts. And when the storm subsides and the rays of the sun pierce the dark veil of clouds.... All that will be left will be a few shallow puddles.... A few shallow puddles calling for some passing guar to p*ss in.Edited by Publius_Scipio on August 25, 2016 7:17PM4 -
Vythri✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »Look, I'm not really complaining. Their zerg is juicy and fun to fight most nights. But TF has become nothing but zerg v zerg and it's mostly because of them. Any time you face off with them you are forced to bring at least half their size Zerg. My only point was now maybe TF can enjoy some smaller engagements and battles.
I guess my point is that zerging is just the nature of any PvP like this. Hell any war in general. Usually the side with the bigger number of soldiers wins.2 -
Vythri✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »IMO this won't solve anything, EP. Either we end up alone on Haderus with no PvP fights, or AD and DC pvpers will switch over and it'll be the same situation that's currently on Trueflame.
But like them or not, we owe a lot of our success to Pact Militia, so anyone who stays of Trueflame is going to have a much harder time without them.
Either way I'm not going be playing very much for the next few months, so either choice is fine by me.
No. The players who have been dependent and reliant on their zergs will have to learn to become better individual players. Trust me, this will be good for the Ep who remain on TF.
That's just an ignorant statement. 9/10 times the group with the smaller numbers will lose to the grp with the bigger numbers. Not everybody has 10 hours a day to commit to this game to be as good as some of the elite. If you want to win, get a bigger group. That's the way of the world, not just this game.
Edited by Vythri on August 25, 2016 7:20PM2 -
Crispen_Longbow✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Draevan wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »IMO this won't solve anything, EP. Either we end up alone on Haderus with no PvP fights, or AD and DC pvpers will switch over and it'll be the same situation that's currently on Trueflame.
But like them or not, we owe a lot of our success to Pact Militia, so anyone who stays of Trueflame is going to have a much harder time without them.
Either way I'm not going be playing very much for the next few months, so either choice is fine by me.
No. The players who have been dependent and reliant on their zergs will have to learn to become better individual players. Trust me, this will be good for the Ep who remain on TF.
The people who need to improve are far more likely to log in, see that EP's being Gate camped with no Scrolls, then go PvE or switch campaigns, and won't improve.
That's why no faction should gate camp!!! So what your saying is that most of the EP left on TF are going to be CHAOTIC NEUTRAL from the image below...
General Question to all, what type of Gamer are you? I like to think of myself as Chaotic Good unless the right person comes along.
Crispen Longbow - Daggerfall Covenant (DC): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - RIP (Blue VE, Khole, LoM, MO)
Crispen Longboww - Aldmeri Dominion (AD): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - Crispen's House of Pain RIP (KP, Yellow VE, Omni)
Crispen Longbow-EP - Ebonheart Pact (EP): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - RIP (Red VE)6 -
God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭God_flakes wrote: »Look, I'm not really complaining. Their zerg is juicy and fun to fight most nights. But TF has become nothing but zerg v zerg and it's mostly because of them. Any time you face off with them you are forced to bring at least half their size Zerg. My only point was now maybe TF can enjoy some smaller engagements and battles.
I guess my point is that zerging is just the nature of any PvP like this. Hell any war in general. Usually the side with the bigger number of soldiers wins.
I don't think you understand what zerging is. It's been defined again and again. A Zerg is not merely a "large group". It is an obscenely and inappropriately large wave of players showing up to a fight against 1/10th the enemies they're facing. I think what PM needs to learn, and still has yet to learn, is it is OK to run large raids and double raids...heck I have done it....but you absolutely don't need to stack them all on one objective. Break them up. Send them two different locations. 100 don't need to show up to assault bleakers when it's obvious there are 10-12 DC inside.3 -
God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭God_flakes wrote: »@BFT88 if they move to Haderus will you come back to TF? Pwease?
@God_flakes Honestly at this point, if Haderus becomes PM's new stomping ground, I probably won't have any choice other than returning to TF.
I will await your return to your real home, son.2 -
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on a side note, who thinks that the "Lawful Evil" picture fits German perfectly.
Crispen Longbow - Daggerfall Covenant (DC): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - RIP (Blue VE, Khole, LoM, MO)
Crispen Longboww - Aldmeri Dominion (AD): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - Crispen's House of Pain RIP (KP, Yellow VE, Omni)
Crispen Longbow-EP - Ebonheart Pact (EP): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - RIP (Red VE)5 -
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✭My little guild goes where the action is, if TF turns into a boring a AD buff server we will go where there is something to fight, we have two choices.1 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Publius_Scipio wrote: »As the tide rises and the waves of Pact Militia come crashing on shore, the COVENANT will be the seawall that breaks the waves. The flood pumps will be manned by COVENANT hands! The innocent will take shelter in COVENANT controlled forts. And when the storm subsides and the rays of the sun pierce the dark veil of clouds.... All that will be left will be a few shallow puddles.... A few shallow puddles calling for some passing guar to p*ss in.
The scene is set. Players enter Stage Left, please.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
- Guild-lead for MV
- Filthy Casual1 -
God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭Crispen_Longbow wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »IMO this won't solve anything, EP. Either we end up alone on Haderus with no PvP fights, or AD and DC pvpers will switch over and it'll be the same situation that's currently on Trueflame.
But like them or not, we owe a lot of our success to Pact Militia, so anyone who stays of Trueflame is going to have a much harder time without them.
Either way I'm not going be playing very much for the next few months, so either choice is fine by me.
No. The players who have been dependent and reliant on their zergs will have to learn to become better individual players. Trust me, this will be good for the Ep who remain on TF.
The people who need to improve are far more likely to log in, see that EP's being Gate camped with no Scrolls, then go PvE or switch campaigns, and won't improve.
That's why no faction should gate camp!!! So what your saying is that most of the EP left on TF are going to be CHAOTIC NEUTRAL from the image below...
General Question to all, what type of Gamer are you? I like to think of myself as Chaotic Good unless the right person comes along.
Anyone who has ever received a hate tell from Jauriel knows she is Chaotic Evil.
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Claire✭✭✭Publius_Scipio wrote: »As the tide rises and the waves of Pact Militia come crashing on shore, the COVENANT will be the seawall that breaks the waves. The flood pumps will be manned by COVENANT hands!
Count me in, Skippy!1 -
Vythri✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Look, I'm not really complaining. Their zerg is juicy and fun to fight most nights. But TF has become nothing but zerg v zerg and it's mostly because of them. Any time you face off with them you are forced to bring at least half their size Zerg. My only point was now maybe TF can enjoy some smaller engagements and battles.
I guess my point is that zerging is just the nature of any PvP like this. Hell any war in general. Usually the side with the bigger number of soldiers wins.
I don't think you understand what zerging is. It's been defined again and again. A Zerg is not merely a "large group". It is an obscenely and inappropriately large wave of players showing up to a fight against 1/10th the enemies they're facing. I think what PM needs to learn, and still has yet to learn, is it is OK to run large raids and double raids...heck I have done it....but you absolutely don't need to stack them all on one objective. Break them up. Send them two different locations. 100 don't need to show up to assault bleakers when it's obvious there are 10-12 DC inside.
Well yeah I can agree with that, but there's always those random players that aren't in the group, but just tag along. Doesn't mean a guild or an entire faction zerg by your definition. If I'm by myself and not in a group, I'm not going to go off on my own somewhere. I'm going to go where the action is. Every faction has players that do that, and every faction gets blamed for zerging.2 -
God_flakes✭✭✭✭✭
✭God_flakes wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Look, I'm not really complaining. Their zerg is juicy and fun to fight most nights. But TF has become nothing but zerg v zerg and it's mostly because of them. Any time you face off with them you are forced to bring at least half their size Zerg. My only point was now maybe TF can enjoy some smaller engagements and battles.
I guess my point is that zerging is just the nature of any PvP like this. Hell any war in general. Usually the side with the bigger number of soldiers wins.
I don't think you understand what zerging is. It's been defined again and again. A Zerg is not merely a "large group". It is an obscenely and inappropriately large wave of players showing up to a fight against 1/10th the enemies they're facing. I think what PM needs to learn, and still has yet to learn, is it is OK to run large raids and double raids...heck I have done it....but you absolutely don't need to stack them all on one objective. Break them up. Send them two different locations. 100 don't need to show up to assault bleakers when it's obvious there are 10-12 DC inside.
Well yeah I can agree with that, but there's always those random players that aren't in the group, but just tag along. Doesn't mean a guild or an entire faction zerg by your definition. If I'm by myself and not in a group, I'm not going to go off on my own somewhere. I'm going to go where the action is. Every faction has players that do that, and every faction gets blamed for zerging.
I agree all factions do it. Last night DC zerged so hard it made my head spin. I was running to a resource thinking I was alone and I turned around and a literal wave of DC descended on me. I was in awe of how many they had. Problem is DC can rarely muster those numbers on any campaign. EP and AD seem to be able to pull them out of their pocket at any given time. And if coordination is the issue...then get coordinated. Communicate with your pugs and explain to them where they're needed and where to find fair fights.1 -
ataggs✭✭✭✭Crispen_Longbow wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »IMO this won't solve anything, EP. Either we end up alone on Haderus with no PvP fights, or AD and DC pvpers will switch over and it'll be the same situation that's currently on Trueflame.
But like them or not, we owe a lot of our success to Pact Militia, so anyone who stays of Trueflame is going to have a much harder time without them.
Either way I'm not going be playing very much for the next few months, so either choice is fine by me.
No. The players who have been dependent and reliant on their zergs will have to learn to become better individual players. Trust me, this will be good for the Ep who remain on TF.
The people who need to improve are far more likely to log in, see that EP's being Gate camped with no Scrolls, then go PvE or switch campaigns, and won't improve.
That's why no faction should gate camp!!! So what your saying is that most of the EP left on TF are going to be CHAOTIC NEUTRAL from the image below...
General Question to all, what type of Gamer are you? I like to think of myself as Chaotic Good unless the right person comes along.
I don't know about me... But I see Tex!-
Confirmed Casual
- Templar DC- Zee Taggs
- Templar EP- Zoola
- Templar AD- Old Zoola
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Crispen_Longbow✭✭✭✭✭God_flakes wrote: »General Question to all, what type of Gamer are you? I like to think of myself as Chaotic Good unless the right person comes along.
I don't know about me... But I see Tex!
I updated the last 3. I think we all know which one is Tex.
Crispen Longbow - Daggerfall Covenant (DC): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - RIP (Blue VE, Khole, LoM, MO)
Crispen Longboww - Aldmeri Dominion (AD): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - Crispen's House of Pain RIP (KP, Yellow VE, Omni)
Crispen Longbow-EP - Ebonheart Pact (EP): NB - Rank:50 (NA/PC) - RIP (Red VE)13 -
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✭✭✭Publius_Scipio wrote: »As the tide rises and the waves of Pact Militia come crashing on shore, the COVENANT will be the seawall that breaks the waves. The flood pumps will be manned by COVENANT hands!
Count me in, Skippy!
Claire Voyante the gassy female sorc.... Is that you?0 -
Chori✭✭✭✭Crispen_Longbow wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »General Question to all, what type of Gamer are you? I like to think of myself as Chaotic Good unless the right person comes along.
I don't know about me... But I see Tex!
I updated the last 3. I think we all know which one is Tex.
LOLEP NA-PC - Invictus - Odem Mortis- Stamina NB Cat - ChoriB'Good
- Magicka NB High Elf - Lîndara
- Stam Sorc High Elf - Lindara Moonlight
- Red Guard Stamina DK - Chorî
- Red Guard Stamina Templar - Choripaninikinnie
- Magplar High Elf - Vagitarian Sillonour
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✭✭If this is true, then this will be disastrous. Can only hope PM gets bored in Haderus when they completely overwhelm it, then return to TF for the high-paced zerg fighting they are used too.3 -
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✭✭✭Crispen_Longbow wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »General Question to all, what type of Gamer are you? I like to think of myself as Chaotic Good unless the right person comes along.
I don't know about me... But I see Tex!
I updated the last 3. I think we all know which one is Tex.
I see the butterflies!2 -
Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭What I heard is those EP guilds are just gonna do it so that guildys can become emp........
What you think native Haderus EP are happy about this?1 -
ataggs✭✭✭✭@Crispen_Longbow wins the thread!
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Confirmed Casual
- Templar DC- Zee Taggs
- Templar EP- Zoola
- Templar AD- Old Zoola
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@Crispen_Longbow wins the thread!
Best conclusion ever.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
- Guild-lead for MV
- Filthy Casual0 -
DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Lord_Draevan wrote: »God_flakes wrote: »Lord_Draevan wrote: »IMO this won't solve anything, EP. Either we end up alone on Haderus with no PvP fights, or AD and DC pvpers will switch over and it'll be the same situation that's currently on Trueflame.
But like them or not, we owe a lot of our success to Pact Militia, so anyone who stays of Trueflame is going to have a much harder time without them.
Either way I'm not going be playing very much for the next few months, so either choice is fine by me.
No. The players who have been dependent and reliant on their zergs will have to learn to become better individual players. Trust me, this will be good for the Ep who remain on TF.
The people who need to improve are far more likely to log in, see that EP's being Gate camped with no Scrolls, then go PvE or switch campaigns, and won't improve.
Spoken as someone who needs to improve, this ^1 -
DHale✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah I would move too if i kept getting beaten as well. Good thing I am AD. We will never have the numbers to compete with EP. So it might balance out the pop. the more numbers they bring it just makes me want to take everything from them and then do scrolmens to rub it in. It might be nice to see a keep flag on the map and horse ride to it not see every postern guarded or get up on the outside wall to see three full raid groups to take one keep. But i am not going to let my faction mates get zerged down when they are outnumbered three to one or four to one.Sorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.0 -
Lord_Hev✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yeah I would move too if i kept getting beaten as well. Good thing I am AD. We will never have the numbers to compete with EP. So it might balance out the pop. the more numbers they bring it just makes me want to take everything from them and then do scrolmens to rub it in. It might be nice to see a keep flag on the map and horse ride to it not see every postern guarded or get up on the outside wall to see three full raid groups to take one keep. But i am not going to let my faction mates get zerged down when they are outnumbered three to one or four to one.
Ok, lets get a reality check. As an AD that decided to play on TF over this week... the sheer amount of AD I have spotted together.... moving as one.... was utterly disgusting. I witnessed around 40+ AD mow down a single Invictus raid at a resource and I wanted to barf.
Get a reality check. The AD I have seen on TF are just as guilty as PM is for zerging. Get the **** off your high horses.13 -
Celas_Dranacea✭✭✭✭✭I don't know if the boss cat has announced this officially but @Telel has decided to move COH over to Haderus, at least for the next haderus campaign cycle after TF ends. Many of us will keep one foot in TF but at least we're gonna try helping to balance out population across servers for awhile.
It's been an awesome few months of AD winning TF but this server shakeup is good, should be interesting.A Bosmer Nightblade Werewolf1 -
BFT88✭✭✭✭Celas_Dranacea wrote: »It's been an awesome few months of AD winning TF but this server shakeup is good, should be interesting.
I think you meant to say it's been an awesome few months of mowing down solo players with 40 AD.4
