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Make Streak Great Again

LeifErickson
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I think it's time that streak got rebalanced. Because of the increasing cost of streak and all of the snares present in the game right now, it is really hard to escape as a sorc. Streak should be reverted to what it use to be before the nerf. If not that, then maybe make it so streak cleanses snares. There is no increasing cost on sprint. There is no increasing cost on cloak. Why does streak have to have an increasing cost as well?
  • BurritoESO
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    I agree. Sorcs can't stand their ground like a Templar or any stam class can. They should be able to strategically spread apart opponents using streak to help them survive open world solo and small scale.
  • BurritoESO
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    Especially because almost any stam player uses some kind of major expedition and can easily catch sorcs now, and let's not even add snares, roots, or gap closer spams to the picture.
  • PrinceFabious
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    No. Why? One word: Xevenex
  • Skitttles
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    Yes and while they're at it make it so you don't do that little pause after you streak.
    Skittles | DC Stem Sok and sumtimes Nertbled
  • Sandman929
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    Before Stam Meta, I would have said no. Now I think it's kind of cruel not to revisit Streak.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    You could just reduce the range of gap closers. Using streak, sprint and range abilitys would all benifit from a range change on gap closers.

    You cant even bait players to follow you since its so easy for multiple players to gap close you in a 20ish meter radius.

    If gap closers were smaller, positioning would be a lot easier to manage when picking fights in large AvA fights. You wont just have 5+ people gap closing you from all directions.
    PS4 NA DC
  • iam117
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    it is def a shame that a mobility skill is only good for a stun atm.
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    Snowflake Patrol
  • Nihang
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    i wish to streak into the sunset at a reasonable cost of magicka.
    #LOVEPALACE
  • HoloYoitsu
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    #SorcsArePeopleToo
    #BuffSorc2016
    #DoItForHarambe
    #1.5PrivateServer
  • Chori
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    lol no, you can still see sorcs streaking away repeatedly like if there was no punishment whatsoever.

    Cloak barely works and is still being broken by gap closers, Uppercuts, and other shananigans. There was no sprinting cost increase but you dont regen stamina while you sprint anymore and its been like that for a while, and there is also a roll dodge penalty if you do it repeatedly.

    This is a L2P issue of OP.
    EP NA-PC - Invictus - Odem Mortis
    1. Stamina NB Cat - ChoriB'Good
    2. Magicka NB High Elf - Lîndara
    3. Stam Sorc High Elf - Lindara Moonlight
    4. Red Guard Stamina DK - Chorî
    5. Red Guard Stamina Templar - Choripaninikinnie
    6. Magplar High Elf - Vagitarian Sillonour
    Don't tell me you lag, I play with 200-300 ms all the time ^_^
  • BurritoESO
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    Chori wrote: »
    lol no, you can still see sorcs streaking away repeatedly like if there was no punishment whatsoever.

    Cloak barely works and is still being broken by gap closers, Uppercuts, and other shananigans. There was no sprinting cost increase but you dont regen stamina while you sprint anymore and its been like that for a while, and there is also a roll dodge penalty if you do it repeatedly.

    This is a L2P issue of OP.

    Have you ever played sorc? If so then you would realize that after 5 streaks you are out of magicka and can't fight unless you have a pot ready. And you can't compare anything to cloak because that is a broken skill that is bugged and not working as intended.
  • Chori
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    OP compared it to cloak therefore I answered with an explanation to cloak in terms of cost increase, read again please.

    And to answer your question, yes I have played a magicka sorc to a point where I adapted to my magicka pool and I went stamina (Im imperial). I still see several sorcs that don't have an issue with streaking, and if you are streaking 5 (FIVE) times you should be out of trouble and if you are not, then you are not playing it right.
    EP NA-PC - Invictus - Odem Mortis
    1. Stamina NB Cat - ChoriB'Good
    2. Magicka NB High Elf - Lîndara
    3. Stam Sorc High Elf - Lindara Moonlight
    4. Red Guard Stamina DK - Chorî
    5. Red Guard Stamina Templar - Choripaninikinnie
    6. Magplar High Elf - Vagitarian Sillonour
    Don't tell me you lag, I play with 200-300 ms all the time ^_^
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    I'd be happy with a damage buff for streak and a cost reduction for BoL.
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  • HoloYoitsu
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    Chori wrote: »
    OP compared it to cloak therefore I answered with an explanation to cloak in terms of cost increase, read again please.

    And to answer your question, yes I have played a magicka sorc to a point where I adapted to my magicka pool and I went stamina (Im imperial). I still see several sorcs that don't have an issue with streaking, and if you are streaking 5 (FIVE) times you should be out of trouble and if you are not, then you are not playing it right.
    I can spam crit rush till the cows come home, tell me again how 5 streaks = disengaged? Hell, on a stam build I can literally sprint after a sorc and keep up however far they want to go - and that was before the streak nerf.
  • iam117
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    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    I can spam crit rush till the cows come home, tell me again how 5 streaks = disengaged? Hell, on a stam build I can literally sprint after a sorc and keep up however far they want to go - and that was before the streak nerf.

    just to reemphasize
    <Liv3mind>
    <PC/NA - Legion Of The Bloodworks>
    Snowflake Patrol
  • Chori
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    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    Chori wrote: »
    OP compared it to cloak therefore I answered with an explanation to cloak in terms of cost increase, read again please.

    And to answer your question, yes I have played a magicka sorc to a point where I adapted to my magicka pool and I went stamina (Im imperial). I still see several sorcs that don't have an issue with streaking, and if you are streaking 5 (FIVE) times you should be out of trouble and if you are not, then you are not playing it right.
    I can spam crit rush till the cows come home, tell me again how 5 streaks = disengaged? Hell, on a stam build I can literally sprint after a sorc and keep up however far they want to go - and that was before the streak nerf.

    I'd like to introduce you to my friend Line Of Sight, maybe he can become a good friend of yours too.
    EP NA-PC - Invictus - Odem Mortis
    1. Stamina NB Cat - ChoriB'Good
    2. Magicka NB High Elf - Lîndara
    3. Stam Sorc High Elf - Lindara Moonlight
    4. Red Guard Stamina DK - Chorî
    5. Red Guard Stamina Templar - Choripaninikinnie
    6. Magplar High Elf - Vagitarian Sillonour
    Don't tell me you lag, I play with 200-300 ms all the time ^_^
  • HoloYoitsu
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    Chori wrote: »
    HoloYoitsu wrote: »
    Chori wrote: »
    OP compared it to cloak therefore I answered with an explanation to cloak in terms of cost increase, read again please.

    And to answer your question, yes I have played a magicka sorc to a point where I adapted to my magicka pool and I went stamina (Im imperial). I still see several sorcs that don't have an issue with streaking, and if you are streaking 5 (FIVE) times you should be out of trouble and if you are not, then you are not playing it right.
    I can spam crit rush till the cows come home, tell me again how 5 streaks = disengaged? Hell, on a stam build I can literally sprint after a sorc and keep up however far they want to go - and that was before the streak nerf.

    I'd like to introduce you to my friend Line Of Sight, maybe he can become a good friend of yours too.
    I'd like to introduce you to my friend Reading Comprehension, maybe he can become a good friend of yours and help you get through reading the second sentence of my post.
    Edited by HoloYoitsu on August 24, 2016 11:40PM
  • Chori
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    So what you are saying is, you don't know how to LoS and you are trying to tell me to learn to read? Am I right? lol.

    *grabs more popcorn*
    EP NA-PC - Invictus - Odem Mortis
    1. Stamina NB Cat - ChoriB'Good
    2. Magicka NB High Elf - Lîndara
    3. Stam Sorc High Elf - Lindara Moonlight
    4. Red Guard Stamina DK - Chorî
    5. Red Guard Stamina Templar - Choripaninikinnie
    6. Magplar High Elf - Vagitarian Sillonour
    Don't tell me you lag, I play with 200-300 ms all the time ^_^
  • HoloYoitsu
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    Chori wrote: »
    So what you are saying is, you don't know how to LoS and you are trying to tell me to learn to read? Am I right? lol.

    *grabs more popcorn*
    I wasn't aware people de-aggroed and stopped sprinting after you as soon as you got los.

    Please do tell me how hard it is chasing down blinking sorcs nowadays.
  • RadioheadSh0t
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    I think they need to fix snares. They're out of control.
    Aldonius Direnni - Vet Altmer Sorc (AD)
    Tyrus Telvanni - Vet Dunmer DK (AD)
    Al Donius Bundy - Vet Imperial NB (AD)
    Aldonius Brutus - Vet Orc DK (DC)
  • The-Baconator
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    Just make damaging someone with streak remove bolt escape fatigue, would be 10x better than it is right now and potatoes wouldn't be able to complain about permabolting.
    First PS4 NA Grand Overlord, Stormproof, and Flawless Conqueror.
    Potato Lord of Atrocity
  • Laggus
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    BurritoESO wrote: »
    Chori wrote: »
    lol no, you can still see sorcs streaking away repeatedly like if there was no punishment whatsoever.

    Cloak barely works and is still being broken by gap closers, Uppercuts, and other shananigans. There was no sprinting cost increase but you dont regen stamina while you sprint anymore and its been like that for a while, and there is also a roll dodge penalty if you do it repeatedly.

    This is a L2P issue of OP.

    Have you ever played sorc? If so then you would realize that after 5 streaks you are out of magicka and can't fight unless you have a pot ready. And you can't compare anything to cloak because that is a broken skill that is bugged and not working as intended.

    Were you around to experience Streak before they added penalties to make it it's current format? I ask because this is what you seem to want it reverted back to. They actually had very good reasons to balance it. It was ridiculous.
  • Bdawwg
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    Even the other morph of streak is useless right now. For a skill that's meant to be at the end of a skill line it's becoming lack luster. Sorcs are meant to be the mobile class, it doesn't feel like that at all especially with streak costs increasing exponentially.
  • Minalan
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    Laggus wrote: »
    BurritoESO wrote: »
    Chori wrote: »
    lol no, you can still see sorcs streaking away repeatedly like if there was no punishment whatsoever.

    Cloak barely works and is still being broken by gap closers, Uppercuts, and other shananigans. There was no sprinting cost increase but you dont regen stamina while you sprint anymore and its been like that for a while, and there is also a roll dodge penalty if you do it repeatedly.

    This is a L2P issue of OP.

    Have you ever played sorc? If so then you would realize that after 5 streaks you are out of magicka and can't fight unless you have a pot ready. And you can't compare anything to cloak because that is a broken skill that is bugged and not working as intended.

    Were you around to experience Streak before they added penalties to make it it's current format? I ask because this is what you seem to want it reverted back to. They actually had very good reasons to balance it. It was ridiculous.

    I agree, it was. But is it wrong to want something somewhere in between 'ridiculous' and 'useless mana drain'?

    Lower the increasing costs. 'Back then' gap closers weren't as effective as they are now.

  • Laggus
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Laggus wrote: »
    BurritoESO wrote: »
    Chori wrote: »
    lol no, you can still see sorcs streaking away repeatedly like if there was no punishment whatsoever.

    Cloak barely works and is still being broken by gap closers, Uppercuts, and other shananigans. There was no sprinting cost increase but you dont regen stamina while you sprint anymore and its been like that for a while, and there is also a roll dodge penalty if you do it repeatedly.

    This is a L2P issue of OP.

    Have you ever played sorc? If so then you would realize that after 5 streaks you are out of magicka and can't fight unless you have a pot ready. And you can't compare anything to cloak because that is a broken skill that is bugged and not working as intended.

    Were you around to experience Streak before they added penalties to make it it's current format? I ask because this is what you seem to want it reverted back to. They actually had very good reasons to balance it. It was ridiculous.

    I agree, it was. But is it wrong to want something somewhere in between 'ridiculous' and 'useless mana drain'?

    Lower the increasing costs. 'Back then' gap closers weren't as effective as they are now.

    Back then gap closers worked until they "fixed" them. It can be argued now at best they are hit and miss. Most Sorcs still have Streak on their skill bars and still use it to gap close and/or escape successfully. So does it really need reviewing (honestly).

    Any Sorc can Streak 3 times easily which is more than enough to escape far enough away to run off the penalty timer and streak again etc etc.
  • Minalan
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    Laggus wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Laggus wrote: »
    BurritoESO wrote: »
    Chori wrote: »
    lol no, you can still see sorcs streaking away repeatedly like if there was no punishment whatsoever.

    Cloak barely works and is still being broken by gap closers, Uppercuts, and other shananigans. There was no sprinting cost increase but you dont regen stamina while you sprint anymore and its been like that for a while, and there is also a roll dodge penalty if you do it repeatedly.

    This is a L2P issue of OP.

    Have you ever played sorc? If so then you would realize that after 5 streaks you are out of magicka and can't fight unless you have a pot ready. And you can't compare anything to cloak because that is a broken skill that is bugged and not working as intended.

    Were you around to experience Streak before they added penalties to make it it's current format? I ask because this is what you seem to want it reverted back to. They actually had very good reasons to balance it. It was ridiculous.

    I agree, it was. But is it wrong to want something somewhere in between 'ridiculous' and 'useless mana drain'?

    Lower the increasing costs. 'Back then' gap closers weren't as effective as they are now.

    Back then gap closers worked until they "fixed" them. It can be argued now at best they are hit and miss. Most Sorcs still have Streak on their skill bars and still use it to gap close and/or escape successfully. So does it really need reviewing (honestly).

    Any Sorc can Streak 3 times easily which is more than enough to escape far enough away to run off the penalty timer and streak again etc etc.

    Nope. Try it.

    You streak once. Two or three Stam types crit Rush and dog pile you because of the delay built in. Streak again. Guess what happens?

    Third streak? Dead. You're being tea bagged.
  • Bryanonymous
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    Add the spam penalty to many other class abilities.
  • FriedEggSandwich
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    Laggus wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Laggus wrote: »
    BurritoESO wrote: »
    Chori wrote: »
    lol no, you can still see sorcs streaking away repeatedly like if there was no punishment whatsoever.

    Cloak barely works and is still being broken by gap closers, Uppercuts, and other shananigans. There was no sprinting cost increase but you dont regen stamina while you sprint anymore and its been like that for a while, and there is also a roll dodge penalty if you do it repeatedly.

    This is a L2P issue of OP.

    Have you ever played sorc? If so then you would realize that after 5 streaks you are out of magicka and can't fight unless you have a pot ready. And you can't compare anything to cloak because that is a broken skill that is bugged and not working as intended.

    Were you around to experience Streak before they added penalties to make it it's current format? I ask because this is what you seem to want it reverted back to. They actually had very good reasons to balance it. It was ridiculous.

    I agree, it was. But is it wrong to want something somewhere in between 'ridiculous' and 'useless mana drain'?

    Lower the increasing costs. 'Back then' gap closers weren't as effective as they are now.

    Back then gap closers worked until they "fixed" them. It can be argued now at best they are hit and miss. Most Sorcs still have Streak on their skill bars and still use it to gap close and/or escape successfully. So does it really need reviewing (honestly).

    Any Sorc can Streak 3 times easily which is more than enough to escape far enough away to run off the penalty timer and streak again etc etc.

    I don't think streak, being an offensive skill, needs a cost reduction which was why I suggested a small damage buff. I like the idea of the cost penalty being reset if you damage with it though, but this might need other conditions to stop it being op. I do think that BoL, the defensive morph, could use a cost reduction. Simply reducing it's base cost and leaving the cost increase might be enough.
    PC | EU
  • gibous
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    If boundless storm were truly boundless you would be immune to snares while having it up or at least be able to purge them.
    Reddington James — Magsorc & Magplar (NA PC)
  • Laggus
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    Minalan wrote: »
    Laggus wrote: »
    Minalan wrote: »
    Laggus wrote: »
    BurritoESO wrote: »
    Chori wrote: »
    lol no, you can still see sorcs streaking away repeatedly like if there was no punishment whatsoever.

    Cloak barely works and is still being broken by gap closers, Uppercuts, and other shananigans. There was no sprinting cost increase but you dont regen stamina while you sprint anymore and its been like that for a while, and there is also a roll dodge penalty if you do it repeatedly.

    This is a L2P issue of OP.

    Have you ever played sorc? If so then you would realize that after 5 streaks you are out of magicka and can't fight unless you have a pot ready. And you can't compare anything to cloak because that is a broken skill that is bugged and not working as intended.

    Were you around to experience Streak before they added penalties to make it it's current format? I ask because this is what you seem to want it reverted back to. They actually had very good reasons to balance it. It was ridiculous.

    I agree, it was. But is it wrong to want something somewhere in between 'ridiculous' and 'useless mana drain'?

    Lower the increasing costs. 'Back then' gap closers weren't as effective as they are now.

    Back then gap closers worked until they "fixed" them. It can be argued now at best they are hit and miss. Most Sorcs still have Streak on their skill bars and still use it to gap close and/or escape successfully. So does it really need reviewing (honestly).

    Any Sorc can Streak 3 times easily which is more than enough to escape far enough away to run off the penalty timer and streak again etc etc.

    Nope. Try it.

    You streak once. Two or three Stam types crit Rush and dog pile you because of the delay built in. Streak again. Guess what happens?

    Third streak? Dead. You're being tea bagged.

    Crit Rush is a gap closer, what else should it do if not close gaps.
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