How are your Hirelings Doing for You?

Nestor · August 2016

I run hirelings on all my alts, 7 of them run Equipment Mat Hirelings. Prior to the update, I would get a smattering of Gold Tempers, about one per day across all my hirelings. So, on most days I could get at least a Wax or an Alloy or Rosin, sometimes more than one. Since the Hist update, I have not gotten one Gold Temper in any of my hireling mails.

I know RNG can be a fickle mistress, but I was just wondering if any one else is having bad luck like this.

Reverb · August 2016

Bad. I get hireling Mail on four toons daily, it's been over 3 weeks since my last gold item was delivered.

Arthg · August 2016

I think mine are on strike.

Ain't never got anything gold from them lazy tossers.

gamerguy757 · August 2016

They're about as useful as a poopy flavored lollipop

helediron · August 2016

Ah, a thread just at the right time. I followed writs over a weekafter SotH patch and hirelings at the same time:
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That table means that i collected 11 days once per day, hireling mails from 12 maxed crafters, totalling 132 character-days. I didn't collect every 12 hours, and excluded drops from second emails in a day. All characters are CP160 master crafters with full points assigned to all relevant crafting passives (they don't have e.g. keen eye maximized). I got 10 goldens. With 12 characters i got almost one golden per day.

To turn it around - and remembering RNG is taking part - from these statistics one player with one character gets some golden every 13th day.

And really we shouldn't do statistics from ten items. But this should be equal to one character's hireling mails from over four months.

Nestor · August 2016

@helediron

I am getting Kuta's, that is not the issue. Do the Rosins, Waxes and Alloys show up less often for you than prior to Shadows of the Hist?

helediron · August 2016

Nestor wrote: »

@helediron

I am getting Kuta's, that is not the issue. Do the Rosins, Waxes and Alloys show up less often for you than prior to Shadows of the Hist?

Here is the source table of writ drops last week:
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I only have this to show from last february (ta=Temperin Alloy, dw=Dreugh Wax, r=Rosin, k=Kuta):
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The two accounts had maybe 10-12 decent characters total at that time. I am hesitant to compare to that because it was done rather hastily and carelessly. I leave the interpretation open. It's too small sample.

Anyway the newer table shows that dreugh wax dropped me most often. RNG is strong here.

Nestor · August 2016

I know it ebbs and flows with regards to Gold Tempers, its just I have never gone this long with none.

Jimboo84 · August 2016

I never get gold tempers via my hirelings. That's months ago.

CapnPhoton · August 2016

He does ok. Though I am surprised he is still alive and disease free from all the comments he writes when he sends things.

Beardimus · August 2016

I concur with you @Nestor I've definitely noticed it. Early days tho as I'm console but still.

Akrasjel · August 2016

Not that good

Synfaer · August 2016

Jimboo84 wrote: »

I never get gold tempers via my hirelings. That's months ago.

Me too, its been 3 months since i've seen a gold temper.
6 Characters a day 3/3 hireling 10/10 smithing. PC-NA

I have been getting wax & rosin steadily but rarely.

Erro · August 2016

i was wondering about this.
haven't received any golds, nor any hi-level provisioning mats, for quite a while.
seems like over a month?

Jimboo84 · August 2016

Synfaer wrote: »

Jimboo84 wrote: »

I never get gold tempers via my hirelings. That's months ago.

Me too, its been 3 months since i've seen a gold temper.
6 Characters a day 3/3 hireling 10/10 smithing. PC-NA

I have been getting wax & rosin steadily but rarely.

I spoke too soon

Yesterday I got 3 Dreugh Wax of my hirelings. But it's pretty rare now.

Asardes · August 2016

Badly. They're gonna lose their jobs when I reset my skill points in a couple of months. Not worth wasting 15 skill points on a function that most days produces only a trait stone and a styling material 2-3 cheap rune stones or 2 stacks of very common cooking ingredients. The latter I'm using for leveling provisioning on alts and I'm not resetting skills ATM because I also have 8 skill points in research. Once it's finished for all traits I will free them up together.

Willard · August 2016

What, hirelings give Gold Tempers???

lol, ya I hardly ever got any from my hirelings--it was bad to the point that when I did a respect--I only slotted points on one character for a hireling.

I do much better getting gold tempers from deconstructing.

WillhelmBlack · August 2016

Not 1 Tempering Alloy this year.

Jimboo84 · August 2016

Willard wrote: »

What, hirelings give Gold Tempers???

lol, ya I hardly ever got any from my hirelings--it was bad to the point that when I did a respect--I only slotted points on one character for a hireling.

I do much better getting gold tempers from deconstructing.

Indeed, I get more gold tempers by deconstructing. But as said it was very rare as present of my hirelings

Nestor · August 2016

I never expected my hirelings to drown me in Tempers, and the first rule of Hirelings is to have more rather than less. It's just the Temper results have plummeted recently, even for the Purple ones.

Beardimus · August 2016

For sure. And PA fragments too

Suter1972 · August 2016

so as a new crafter ive only got one hireling. Are we saying its not worth putting more SP's into hireling at the minute?

IwakuraLain42 · August 2016

I've gotten a Kuta yesterday, that being the first gold mat I ever got out of my 6-7 hirelings for the last few months. For all the skill points you spent this really not that great ...

Asardes · August 2016

Maybe there is a hidden variable that makes the odds drop for rare tempers, glyphs and spices when more than one char on the same account has the hireling passives or does the daily crafting writs in order to discourage farming them this way.

Acharnor · August 2016

Other than my enchanting hireling which sees fit to regularly bring me a kuta they are a stingy lot! Somedays it is hardly worth the effort of opening the mail - lol.

Nestor · August 2016

I did get a Dreugh Wax last night. 1.

Tevalaur · August 2016

Suter1972 wrote: »

Are we saying its not worth putting more SP's into hireling at the minute?

I recommend the hireling for Provisioning to bring the purple food/drink ingredients that are not obtainable anywhere except through hirelings/writs. Aside from that, until you have more skill points than you can otherwise use, hirelings are not worth the points in my opinion.

edit: somehow had initially missed quoting the person I was responding to

Synfaer · August 2016

How are my hirelings doing?

They are living luxurious lifestyles funded by laundering my gold ingredients to gold sellers & crown store administrators.

Thanks my take on it anyway, don't trust em one bit...

ListerJMC · August 2016

I rarely get gold mats from my hirelings, but I did get a tempering alloy a couple of weeks ago which was nice - nothing gold since then.

Wrecking_Blow_Spam · August 2016

I have no idea what I get. I have auto loot and whatever I get goes straight to the crafting bag.

Also I normally don't look at mail I just scroll quickly spamming A to pick up all at once.