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How are your Hirelings Doing for You?

Nestor
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I run hirelings on all my alts, 7 of them run Equipment Mat Hirelings. Prior to the update, I would get a smattering of Gold Tempers, about one per day across all my hirelings. So, on most days I could get at least a Wax or an Alloy or Rosin, sometimes more than one. Since the Hist update, I have not gotten one Gold Temper in any of my hireling mails.

I know RNG can be a fickle mistress, but I was just wondering if any one else is having bad luck like this.
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  • Reverb
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    Bad. I get hireling Mail on four toons daily, it's been over 3 weeks since my last gold item was delivered.
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  • Arthg
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    I think mine are on strike.

    Ain't never got anything gold from them lazy tossers.

    PC/EU. NoCP PvP. sDK Orc IRL. Flawless tamperor. Pro scrub.
  • gamerguy757
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    They're about as useful as a poopy flavored lollipop
  • helediron
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    Ah, a thread just at the right time. I followed writs over a weekafter SotH patch and hirelings at the same time:
    Screenshot%202016-08-19%2018.34.45.png
    That table means that i collected 11 days once per day, hireling mails from 12 maxed crafters, totalling 132 character-days. I didn't collect every 12 hours, and excluded drops from second emails in a day. All characters are CP160 master crafters with full points assigned to all relevant crafting passives (they don't have e.g. keen eye maximized). I got 10 goldens. With 12 characters i got almost one golden per day.

    To turn it around - and remembering RNG is taking part - from these statistics one player with one character gets some golden every 13th day.

    And really we shouldn't do statistics from ten items. But this should be equal to one character's hireling mails from over four months.
    Edited by helediron on August 19, 2016 3:51PM
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  • Nestor
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    @helediron

    I am getting Kuta's, that is not the issue. Do the Rosins, Waxes and Alloys show up less often for you than prior to Shadows of the Hist?
    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

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    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • helediron
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    Nestor wrote: »
    @helediron

    I am getting Kuta's, that is not the issue. Do the Rosins, Waxes and Alloys show up less often for you than prior to Shadows of the Hist?

    Here is the source table of writ drops last week:
    Screenshot%202016-08-19%2019.42.57.png

    I only have this to show from last february (ta=Temperin Alloy, dw=Dreugh Wax, r=Rosin, k=Kuta):
    Screenshot%202016-08-19%2019.36.30.png

    The two accounts had maybe 10-12 decent characters total at that time. I am hesitant to compare to that because it was done rather hastily and carelessly. I leave the interpretation open. It's too small sample.

    Anyway the newer table shows that dreugh wax dropped me most often. RNG is strong here.
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  • Nestor
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    I know it ebbs and flows with regards to Gold Tempers, its just I have never gone this long with none.
    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • Jimboo84
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    I never get gold tempers via my hirelings. That's months ago.
    Jimerio / Magicka Sorcerer / PvP & PvE / Master Crafter(Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Alchemy, Provisioning, Enchanting, Clothing) / DD & Heal / CP560+ / Aldmeri Dominion / PC / EU
  • CapnPhoton
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    He does ok. Though I am surprised he is still alive and disease free from all the comments he writes when he sends things.
    Xbox One NA Aldmeri Dominion
  • Beardimus
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    I concur with you @Nestor I've definitely noticed it. Early days tho as I'm console but still.
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  • Akrasjel
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    Not that good :(
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  • Synfaer
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    Jimboo84 wrote: »
    I never get gold tempers via my hirelings. That's months ago.

    Me too, its been 3 months since i've seen a gold temper.
    6 Characters a day 3/3 hireling 10/10 smithing. PC-NA

    I have been getting wax & rosin steadily but rarely.
  • Erro
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    i was wondering about this.
    haven't received any golds, nor any hi-level provisioning mats, for quite a while.
    seems like over a month?
  • Jimboo84
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    Synfaer wrote: »
    Jimboo84 wrote: »
    I never get gold tempers via my hirelings. That's months ago.

    Me too, its been 3 months since i've seen a gold temper.
    6 Characters a day 3/3 hireling 10/10 smithing. PC-NA

    I have been getting wax & rosin steadily but rarely.

    I spoke too soon :) Yesterday I got 3 Dreugh Wax of my hirelings. But it's pretty rare now.
    Jimerio / Magicka Sorcerer / PvP & PvE / Master Crafter(Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Alchemy, Provisioning, Enchanting, Clothing) / DD & Heal / CP560+ / Aldmeri Dominion / PC / EU
  • Asardes
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    Badly. They're gonna lose their jobs when I reset my skill points in a couple of months. Not worth wasting 15 skill points on a function that most days produces only a trait stone and a styling material 2-3 cheap rune stones or 2 stacks of very common cooking ingredients. The latter I'm using for leveling provisioning on alts and I'm not resetting skills ATM because I also have 8 skill points in research. Once it's finished for all traits I will free them up together.
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  • Willard
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    What, hirelings give Gold Tempers???

    lol, ya I hardly ever got any from my hirelings--it was bad to the point that when I did a respect--I only slotted points on one character for a hireling.

    I do much better getting gold tempers from deconstructing.
  • WillhelmBlack
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    Not 1 Tempering Alloy this year.
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  • Jimboo84
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    Willard wrote: »
    What, hirelings give Gold Tempers???

    lol, ya I hardly ever got any from my hirelings--it was bad to the point that when I did a respect--I only slotted points on one character for a hireling.

    I do much better getting gold tempers from deconstructing.

    Indeed, I get more gold tempers by deconstructing. But as said it was very rare as present of my hirelings :smiley:
    Jimerio / Magicka Sorcerer / PvP & PvE / Master Crafter(Woodworking, Blacksmithing, Alchemy, Provisioning, Enchanting, Clothing) / DD & Heal / CP560+ / Aldmeri Dominion / PC / EU
  • Nestor
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    I never expected my hirelings to drown me in Tempers, and the first rule of Hirelings is to have more rather than less. It's just the Temper results have plummeted recently, even for the Purple ones.
    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

    PakKat "Everything was going well, until I died"
    Gary Gravestink "I am glad you died, I needed the help"

  • Beardimus
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    For sure. And PA fragments too :(
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  • Suter1972
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    so as a new crafter ive only got one hireling. Are we saying its not worth putting more SP's into hireling at the minute?
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  • IwakuraLain42
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    I've gotten a Kuta yesterday, that being the first gold mat I ever got out of my 6-7 hirelings for the last few months. For all the skill points you spent this really not that great ...
  • Asardes
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    Maybe there is a hidden variable that makes the odds drop for rare tempers, glyphs and spices when more than one char on the same account has the hireling passives or does the daily crafting writs in order to discourage farming them this way.
    Beta tester since February 2014, played ESO-TU October 2015 - August 2022, currently on an extended break
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    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

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  • Acharnor
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    Other than my enchanting hireling which sees fit to regularly bring me a kuta they are a stingy lot! Somedays it is hardly worth the effort of opening the mail - lol.
    Celebrate for life is short but sweet for certain.
  • Nestor
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    I did get a Dreugh Wax last night. 1.
    Enjoy the game, life is what you really want to be worried about.

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  • Tevalaur
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    Suter1972 wrote: »
    Are we saying its not worth putting more SP's into hireling at the minute?

    I recommend the hireling for Provisioning to bring the purple food/drink ingredients that are not obtainable anywhere except through hirelings/writs. Aside from that, until you have more skill points than you can otherwise use, hirelings are not worth the points in my opinion.

    edit: somehow had initially missed quoting the person I was responding to
    Edited by Tevalaur on August 23, 2016 8:14PM
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  • Synfaer
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    How are my hirelings doing?

    They are living luxurious lifestyles funded by laundering my gold ingredients to gold sellers & crown store administrators.

    Thanks my take on it anyway, don't trust em one bit...
  • ListerJMC
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    I rarely get gold mats from my hirelings, but I did get a tempering alloy a couple of weeks ago which was nice - nothing gold since then.
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  • Wrecking_Blow_Spam
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    I have no idea what I get. I have auto loot and whatever I get goes straight to the crafting bag.

    Also I normally don't look at mail I just scroll quickly spamming A to pick up all at once.
    Xbox one EU
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