SourishWhale wrote: »

@Stoopid_Nwah

You're right, people quit for a myriad of reasons. I'm just trying to eliminate a few with my discussion (if possible).

One reason end-game players quit is RNG, one reason casuals quit is power gap in PVP.


Azura at 300 wouldn't eliminate anyone. It would just mean you can only equip 300 in that campaign.

I don't know if it would be popular, but from my own experiences, I think it would be better than non CP.


I've given it some thought, and I think the cap should go up as planned. But perhaps just make adjustments to appease as many players as we can.

I updated the OP to reflect my thoughts.

SourishWhale wrote: »

@Burning_Talons

I get that. Play more. Sure.

But that doesn't solve any problems with imbalance and a dying Pvp population.

Just to clarify, I don't have a problem with CP personally. I play enough, and the catch up is fine for me.

My concern is for the population of the game. It doesn't matter how much I play this game. Or how powerful I become, if there is nobody left to fight. One Tamriel is coming. What do you think that says about the state of the game?

Population is dying. If you love this game like I do, you need to help protect it. Or it will go away.

Most of the guys posting here don't seem to have the foresight to understand that. They just talk about wanting more "power". It seems very selfish and narsistic to me.

Not everyone has the time or interest to grind or play enough PVE to become viable in Pvp. It cripples a large portion of the player base, thus reducing the player base, and I just don't see the value in that. In the long run, imbalance is bad for EVERYONE.

I played since launch, and if you were there you will remember how much fun it was with full campaigns and there were raids all over the map. Because most people (aside from the PC transfers) were close to the same power level, the fights were more competitive and more about skill and coordination than just blasting people less powerful than yourself.

As time progresses, people who played more, became very powerful. Before battle leveling came in vet servers, people were quitting due to power imbalance, and the daunting grind.

If the cap goes up too quickly, those same types of players who have hung on this long, or are new to the game will end up giving up on Pvp and we will have nobody to fight.

For the most part, people can't be *** grinding.

Also, we both know Azura is not a viable option. The reason nobody goes there is because this game is balanced around CP combat. So Azura is slow and boring as a result.

I suggested this last year in someone else's thread, but they need to have a tiered CP campaign. Because of the way the game is balanced, the non CP campaign just doesn't work.

My suggestion is remove the Non CP campaign and make it a 300 CP capped Pvp campaign.


Everything else can stay the same. Cap keeps going up. Elites can battle elites. Lowbies can battle Lowbies. Would that be an ok solution?

Then people still get their CP and same gameplay balances, but they can also bridge the gap to true end game Pvp.

Yes this is an MMO and there should be an element of grinding for power, but it's also an Elder Scrolls game. People come here to enjoy the world, and immerse themselves in PVE. People should be able to play at their own pace, and then go and enjoy Pvp at a level that is competitive for all players, without sacrificing the gameplay.

Currently, that option doesn't exist.

As people who love to play this game, the needs of the entire population should be the concern of our efforts.

@Beardimus Thanks man. I knew the response would be mostly negative in the forums from guys who play a lot. It's a shame. People can't see the big picture.

I really enjoy this game. I've watched it become smaller and smaller and I don't want it to die.