Haj Mota Set Seems Underwhelming

ParaNostram · June 2016

I mean, these are buffs that are easily accessible by the classes in their own ways. The monster helm sets are supposed to add something new and exciting that cannot be found elsewhere. This? Well, it's just boring and I can't help but feel it is also going to underperform.

starkerealm · June 2016

All I can say is, it's a lot of defense, and the defense buffs seem to be active persistently. I agree, it's not a very exciting set, but it could end up being a good bread and butter tanking choice.

WeaselGod · June 2016

Having the set leaves for more space on your skill bar for damage dealing abilities, instead of having to worry about keeping a buff up all the time.

Peekachu99 · June 2016

WeaselGod wrote: »

Having the set leaves for more space on your skill bar for damage dealing abilities, instead of having to worry about keeping a buff up all the time.

Any half decent tank can/ should reach cap without those buffs, and thus has that "extra" slot already free. The only thing this might be good for is a medium armor tank. Even then, you'll probably still be below the mitigation you were at with 5/2 heavy. And the fact remains that there's still much better monster sets to put on a tank. Plus you're losing health or regen (any of the health added or engine guardian bonus) and every bit helps when tanking.

The dps one looks alright, I suppose.

dodgehopper_ESO · June 2016

I think what really makes it uninteresting is the fact that the armor/sr activating skills in class lines also usually have very valuable secondary effects, or effects all their own. A good case in point would be Spike Armor, Rune Focus, boundless lightning and so on. The loss in those secondary effects is hard to replace, and I think is part of the reason this set is uninspiring.

flawless4812 · June 2016

This set is garbage.... do tanks a favor and scrap it before we end up having some more useless stuff in the game

If it didn't give major I would be willing to work with it, but the fact it does I won't ever use it over bloodspawn or lord warden which stacks

ParaNostram · June 2016

I just wish it did something cool like the other sets. Why wear this when every other set is often better and always more fun?

starkerealm · June 2016

Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I wonder if the point of this set isn't for solo players running normal content. So they can boost survivability without giving up their offensive abilities. But, the rational part of my brain says that gating this behind group content means that interpretation is nonsense.

Edwardini · August 2016

Not sure about tanks, but for DPS/Healer it's actually a very decent set. You can get really strong DPS without any monster sets at all. At this stage you can choose between survivibility, recovery or more dmg. Suit your needs, but I found that being able to survive is often more valuable than bursting a lot of dps. I have a magicka templar dps, and I reckon if I was to switch to a healing role, all I need is Haj Mota set and I'm done. For group content with a strong tank and healer I'd probably choose Molag Kena though.

MaxwellC · August 2016

The set is only good for tanking if you're not a DK because our hardened armor is still way better thanks to passives. I feel this set should've proc'd a chance of applying major protection for x amount of seconds while being damaged instead of applying major resolve/major ward.

Destruent · August 2016

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

The set is only good for tanking if you're not a DK because our hardened armor is still way better thanks to passives. I feel this set should've proc'd a chance of applying major protection for x amount of seconds while being damaged instead of applying major resolve/major ward.

Even for non-DKs this set is garbage...

templars: minor protection or mana regen together with major mending
NBs: geth the buffs through a passive
sorcs: get major/minor expedition with it

armor skill: cc-immunity for some seconds

everything is better than this 2pc-set if you want to tank. Even when playing dps/heal/solo/whatever those secondary effects are better than wasting 2 gearslots and getting one skillslot.

lustdog · August 2016

this set should be speciality for psychical resistence

make this set "add xxxxx psychical resistence" and "reduce x% psychical damage"

Doctordarkspawn · August 2016

Haj Mota is situational.

Are you willing to give up the resources of engine guardian for the sake of never having to reapply buffs again, which can have some advantages? (Mostly to NB's who's buff timers are around 10 seconds and DK's who's armor ability and morphs were not so great anyway.)

Then yes, it has value. Is it ever going to perform anywhere close to Engine guardian? Of course not.

I've seen people use it for PVP (And it's a godsend for that I've heard) and to take allready great DPS builds, and make them surviveable. For what it is, an option to eliminate armorbuffs from things alltogether, it has it's place. That place is just very situational.

Destruent · August 2016

lustdog wrote: »

this set should be speciality for psychical resistence

make this set "add xxxxx psychical resistence" and "reduce x% psychical damage"

Does psychical resist make you immune to fear?

Wollust · August 2016

Blood Spawn > everything else anyway

lustdog · August 2016

Destruent wrote: »

lustdog wrote: »

this set should be speciality for psychical resistence

make this set "add xxxxx psychical resistence" and "reduce x% psychical damage"

Does psychical resist make you immune to fear?

lol no.., fear is OP :P

Asmael · August 2016

Imperial Stam DK:
2 Haj Mota
5 Hist Bark
5 whatever you want (don't care, we lazy anyway)

Bar 1: Defensive Posture, Igneous shield, Ransack, <whatever haz passive effects> x2 // Magma Shell

Bar 2: Who needs a second bar...

There, you have your one bar tank build. Hold block, taunt every 10 seconds, Igneous shield when low on stam. Use Magma Shell, that way you can stop doing anything for 10 seconds, holding the right mouse button is tiring you know

No heal, that's the healer's job.

Outside that, this set is effectively useless, and doesn't free up a slot, since the abilities you use to get Major Ward / Resolve also provide extra effects.

For healers / DDs... At least use Lord Warden, at least it can stack with Hurricane / Boundless / Channeled focus / Whatever, but realistically, you don't need those.

Forestd16b14_ESO · August 2016

flawless4812 wrote: »

This set is garbage.... do tanks a favor and scrap it before we end up having some more useless stuff in the game

If it didn't give major I would be willing to work with it, but the fact it does I won't ever use it over bloodspawn or lord warden which stacks

What's this we?

Look just cause you don't find use for it doesn't make it useless. Every set has it use along with this one and I plan on getting it and using it in my build cause I see the massive pros this set offers.

MaxwellC · August 2016

My Stam DK (not everything is finished yet since I need footmans/master sword)

5 Piece Ebon armory
5 Piece Footmans
1x Master Sword

Sustain/DPS Bar 2H (for rally) Stampede to reach enemies, Igneous shield for sustain with health/stamina, Reverse slice for mob control, Dizzing swing or talons, and rally for HoT
Defence bar: Puncture, absorb magicka, hardened armor, heroic slash, and vigor