Advice for a new crafter please

Suter1972
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New to the game (4 days in and lvl 20 now) so it maybe doesn’t really affect me as I assume materials you find level with you but I have a couple of questions

1) What resources are rare/scare. Ie a bit of ‘high iron’ looked like a great find to me when I first saw it, now im tripping over the stuff. Ive been getting Rosin from my hireling.
2) Im only concentrating on clothier and woodworking till I get my head into things properly. Where would I sell the metalworking/enchantments that I find, or should I just keep and store them? (I have ESO+ so have the craft bag
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  • Synfaer
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    Collect the raw materials & refine. You can either sell the gold improvement materials you get or keep them for when you are CP160 (you will need a lot if you going to make or improve to gold level gear.
    Keep in mind that it doesn't matter what the level of the raw material is, you have the same chance for getting improvement materials from any type. Just as much chance getting a gold tempering alloy from a stack of iron or a stack of rubedite.
    Not sure what the gold mats go for on PS4 but i imagine the going rate would be substantially more than on PC where temp alloys go for 7-9k atm.
    Hirelings are cheap but you rarely get gold mats.
    Writs are worth doing IMO as you can use the mats you farm to complete the writs which have a decent chance to give gold mats as well as inspiration (crafting XP, useful if you are leveling crafting) and surveys which give you even more raw mats to refine.

  • Tevalaur
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    Synfaer wrote: »
    Collect the raw materials & refine.

    Don't refine until you've put points in Extraction/Unraveling -- this will improve your chances of getting the better materials. Otherwise I agree with the above advice.

    Scarce resources (for crafting) are the gold upgrade materials and Kuta runes (for creating gold glyphs). Also Hakeijo, but that's only found rarely in Imperial City DLC and so most folks don't farm it.

    Don't decon set pieces, toss them up for sale on a guild store instead. Recipes aren't worth much, but low level and higher quality ones often sell quickly as long as they're not overpriced.

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  • Pandorii
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    Here are some surprisingly rare harvestable items:

    Columbine - on PS4 NA they sell for 1k each. They're used in many potions and a stamina ozorga food. **The next best are Bugloss and Mountain Flower (about 30k a stack). Other flowers sell well too. On average, 20k a stack.

    Butterfly Wings and Torchbug Thorax - these reagents sell quite well. They're quite rare though, but it's just a matter of getting into the habit of havesting these bugs. Seen them for as high as 80k for a stack, but 30-40k is more reasonable. **Mudcrab Chitin and Scrib Jelly are also quite pricey.

    Worms - this bait sells for about 6k a stack on PS4, which is about twice as much as the other types of baits.

    Frost Mirriam - this purple food ingredient sells for about 1k each. It can be obtained only from provisioning writs and provisioning hirelings. If there's one hireling worth getting it's this one. **Bervez Juice, the purple drink ingredient, will sell for like 200 gold each. The gold food ingredient is Perfect Roe. You get it randomly from filleting fish. The drop rate is something like 5 percent. These sell for 15k each.

    Nirncrux - if you ever find yourself farming nodes in Craglorn, the potent nurncrux used for weapons can sell for 16k and the fortified for 5k on PS4 NA. They're used for making nirnhoned items and drop randomly from nodes in Craglorn.

    Makderi, Taderi, and Okori - these three lovely essence runes are worth a bit of gold. They can sell for up to 1k each, but probably more like 3 for 1k or 500 gold.

    That's it. Those are all my secrets. ;D good luck! Prices will probably be different in the EU market, but the general demand of these items are driven by the same forces: scarcity, rarity, and utility.
    Edited by Pandorii on August 22, 2016 8:27AM
  • ad4mss
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    Suter1972 wrote: »
    New to the game (4 days in and lvl 20 now) so it maybe doesn’t really affect me as I assume materials you find level with you but I have a couple of questions

    1) What resources are rare/scare. Ie a bit of ‘high iron’ looked like a great find to me when I first saw it, now im tripping over the stuff. Ive been getting Rosin from my hireling.
    2) Im only concentrating on clothier and woodworking till I get my head into things properly. Where would I sell the metalworking/enchantments that I find, or should I just keep and store them? (I have ESO+ so have the craft bag

    Actually, as a new crafter I would recommend you to store mats for future crafts, so you will be able to craft items for people and request higher prices for them as you use your own mats. Especially keep temper mats. If you don't focus on Alchemy and enchanting then you can sell seeds and runes on guild store. Columbines are worth much, other flowers too. You can easy make gold with them. Remember to get into some big trade guild and get Master Merchant add-on, so you will get average prices of any items sold by guild. This will helps you to setup prices and motivate you to gather more stuff. Good luck.
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  • Pandorii
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    @ad4mss Just one tiny problem... we console players live in the stone age. No master merchant addon for us. Only in our dreams. </3
  • Akwila
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    As a crafter, here are some tips that I wish I knew when I first started.

    Designate one toon to be a crafter. This isn't like some MMOs where one toon is a blacksmith and another is clothier. You can do every craft on one toon, provided you have the skill points for it. My primary crafter has every craft maxed out and points in all craft skills and still has enough points for class skills and passives, applicable weapon skills and passives, and skills in other trees. Though, this takes quitea bit of skyshard grinding, completing dungeon quests, main quests, story quests, and very few points from PvP.

    As a general rule of thumb, never pass up material nodes. Grab them and save them for later. In the case of cloth, wood, and ore, you can refine them later and have a chance to find tempers. Tempers are how you increase the quality of items and can sell for huge sums of gold. Tempering alloys, Kuta runes, and Dreugh Wax all sell for very very very high prices (7 to 8k on PC) and are needed to make gold level weapons, armor, and enchants. Rosin is a gold temper needed for bows, staves, and shields but generally sells for less (still worth about 5k on PC)

    Keen Eye passive. Most of the crafts have a Keen Eye passive. This passive is utterly worthless passed rank 1. Most people to not put any points at all in it but I like to have 1 in each of them. Any more than that is useless.

    Deconstruction
    You level all your crafts fairly quick by doing this and also have a chance to find tempers. You get more xp for deconing gear you didn't make and especially if it has the intricate trait on it. If you have a friend, you can max out blacksmithing, clothing, woodworking, and enchanting fairly quick by deconing their stuff.

    Research.
    ALWAYS have this going. Researching traits for gear is imperative. Not only does this allow you to craft more powerful gear, it allows you to craft gear sets at crafting stations scattered throughout the world. Gear set crafting requires you to know a certain number of traits per item to craft in that set. For example, if you want to craft an Ashen Grip sword and dagger, you must know two traits on those items to craft them in that set. So if you have 2 or more traits known for swords, you can make an Ashen Grip sword no problem, but if you only know 1 trait for daggers, you cannot craft an Ashen Grip dagger. Later on you can craft gear in more potent sets like Twice-Born Star which requires you to have all 9 traits. The number of traits you need for a set doesn't always mean the set is good though, some of the lower trait sets are great, and some some of the high trait sets are...not good

    Research takes a very large chunk of time later down the road. Start with the things you use and start with the biggest pieces. For armor, start with chest, legs, and helms. For blacksmithing weapons start with 1h swords, daggers, and 2h swords. If you primarily use heavy armor, start with the armors first and once you have 5 to 6 traits on those, then start working on your weapons. As for woodworking, start with what you use then work on the others leaving Ice Staves for last (very few people prefer them and they are kinda sucky anyway). Woodworking research completion will go faster than clothing and blacksmiting. Finding items for research shouldn't be terribly hard and asking in chat to have research items made is usually done for free (except for nirnhoned items but more on that later). You can also check guild stores for research material but paying more than 300 to 400g for a research item isn't terribly cost effective.

    Alternatively you can start research on ALL items if you research useful traits like infused, divines, and training. If you're a tank then throw sturdy in there too. PvPers also like to have impenetrable. This will allow you to crafter useful gear but will slow progress if your goal is to make sets.

    Set Crafting.
    To craft in a set, you must find the station and physically go there to craft it. Here is a useful link for crafting stations and what the sets are and what they do. elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Set+Bonus+Crafting+Locations


    Motifs.
    This is why you want only one toon doing crafting. These allow you craft in different styles such as the racial styles (Breton, Altmer, Nord, Orc, etc) as well as rare styles like Daedric, Barbaric, and Acient Elf. Styles of course require a style material specific to the style you want and only affect the appearance of the item, it does not change the stats. Once you learn a style, you know it forever, but the motif page or book is consumed. Some motifs come in pages rather than whole books that only let you learn one style per item class. For example If you find Xivkyn Swords motif, you can use it an learn how to craft Xivkyn 1h Swords AND 2h Swords. Likewise, if you find Xivkyn Chests, you can craft Xivkyn chests in light, medium, and heavy. Motif pages and books can vary dramatically in price. On PC, Breton style books, sell for about 400g at most, where as just one page of Dro-m'Athra chests can sell for 50k gold.


    Useful, rare, and expensive crafting materials (based on PC experience)

    Alchemy
    Waters and oils are needed to craft potions and poisons and are what determines the level of the product. the most potent potions and poisons are all cp150 and require Lorkhan's Tears and Alkahest respectively. Tears often sell for more than the oil counterpart. Materials like flowers and fungi are not particularly rare but you only get 1 per node without CP passives and each node seems to have an equal chance to spawn (though plants spawn differently than fungi). To level this fast and efficiently, find a chart or guide online. Takes about 30 to 40 min to max if you have enough materials.

    Columbine. This is one of the most expensive alchemy materials. Many powerful and useful potions require them. Counterintuitively, they are not particularly rarer than other alchemy materials, but they can be hard to see and are often missed.

    Namira's Rot. This large mushroom is also an ingredient useful to tanks and pvpers. Sells well.

    Emetic Russula. Large red mushroom that makes very very very powerful poisons in pvp.

    Bugloss, Water Hyacinth, and Lady's Smock. All make useful magicka/spell potions.

    Nightshade, Mudcrab chitin, and Luminous Russula. These make useful poisons. However Mudcrab chitin is hard to find from mudcrabs and is quite expensive.

    Enchanting
    Never miss a node. Finding a Kuta rune may be rare, but well worth it. Rekuta runes also sell decently. This will take a large chunk of time to level, but you can speed things along if you have a friend. Have them construct MANY white runes at your level of enchanting or higher and decon them. You can double up and do the same for your friend and decon eachother's runes.

    Provisioning
    Probably the easiest craft to level. Ingredients can found literally everywhere. Learn a few recipes and youre set. Though it is wise to learn recipes that you will use. Green recipes sell for very cheap and not not terribly useful but something for a food buff is better than nothing for a food buff. Food buffs maximum resource stats (magicka, health, and stamina) Green recipes produce items that buff one primary resource stat. Blue buff two stats (usually the most useful recipes will be blue). Purple buff all three stats but usually lower total buffs than their blue counterparts. Drinks buff resource recovery and are generally not as useful. Gold recipes are special and only a few foods and drinks are gold level. These are extremely rare and extremely expensive. Psijic Ambrosia is a gold recipe that can sell for 60k to 80k.

    Nirncrux
    These are only found in Craglorn very very very rarely by harvesting any node (though, I've never found one from harvesting water). They are trait material needed to make Nirnhoned items. They are extremely expensive and come in two varieties. Potent Nirncrux is for weapons and Fortified Nirncrux is for armor.


    (also, items generally are less expensive on PC than on consoles. I read the reply above mine about the Okori runes and giggled. That stuff sells very cheaply on PC.... very very very cheaply, lol)




    Edited by Akwila on August 22, 2016 9:45AM
  • Asardes
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    Gather everything (rocks, glyphs, wood, bugs, plants) that you stumble upon in the world and decon all gear that drops and it's less than CP160, has bad traits and it's not part of a set. Decon glyphs, and discover all reagent traits early on. Do the daily writs. Sell the mats you have outleveled on guild stores for more money. They sell well, even the iron and jute. If you're not into fishing also sell the crawlers and insect parts that you find in some plants and bugs. Don't refine unless you have all passives and refine only when you have big stacks - it saves time. If you have more than a stack of green and blue tempers sell that too. Don't temper anything past blue until CP160 - you don't need purple or better gear for most game content and you will outlevel any gear you craft pretty quickly. Get the 1st level of the research passive (allows you to research 2 items at the same time) and start researching so you can craft sets. Training, infused and divines on armor and training, sharpened, precise on weapons are the most useful traits and allow you to craft your own sets pretty quickly.
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    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
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    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
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  • ad4mss
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    Pandorii wrote: »
    @ad4mss Just one tiny problem... we console players live in the stone age. No master merchant addon for us. Only in our dreams. </3


    Aww, did not notice he is a PS4 player. My bad. Anyway I wish all console players to get add-ons feature soon!
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  • Suter1972
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    cheers for all the advice guys.

    I seem to have loads of different materials/stones/runes (some purple ones) but being new I don't know if they are good or bad.

    I also don't know how much makes ' a stack'.

    The guild im in im down as a 'newbie' type so don't even know where the guild shop is. I also cant deposit or buy from guild bank so ive no way to sell anything I collect and have no use for (runes and ores for blacksmith)
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  • Asardes
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    When it comes to any kind of crafting material, the stack size is 200. One stack takes 1 slot in your inventory. So 200 leather takes up one slot, 215 takes 2 slots. That's why it's better to keep them stacked. Other things stack in different numbers, for example most consumables (potions, food) 100, poisons 1000, shackles/embers from IC dungeons 150 and the other chest tokens from IC 60. Gear and glyphs don't stack and each takes a slot in your inventory. Not all guilds have a store active. I think there's a minimum number of players and/or there may be other rules preventing them from using it. Guild store is accessed from the banker dialogue (the NPC banker in towns, not the one in thieves' dens or your own add) or if the guild has an NPC trader from its dialogue. You can buy from NPC guild traders even if you aren't a member of that guild, but you can sell only if you are. Not all guilds have a trader, since it takes money to bid for one and some can get really expensive if they are in crowded places like alliance capitals or other major hubs.
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    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

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  • Suter1972
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    Asardes wrote: »
    When it comes to any kind of crafting material, the stack size is 200. One stack takes 1 slot in your inventory. So 200 leather takes up one slot, 215 takes 2 slots. That's why it's better to keep them stacked. Other things stack in different numbers, for example most consumables (potions, food) 100, poisons 1000, shackles/embers from IC dungeons 150 and the other chest tokens from IC 60. Gear and glyphs don't stack and each takes a slot in your inventory. Not all guilds have a store active. I think there's a minimum number of players and/or there may be other rules preventing them from using it. Guild store is accessed from the banker dialogue (the NPC banker in towns, not the one in thieves' dens or your own add) or if the guild has an NPC trader from its dialogue. You can buy from NPC guild traders even if you aren't a member of that guild, but you can sell only if you are. Not all guilds have a trader, since it takes money to bid for one and some can get really expensive if they are in crowded places like alliance capitals or other major hubs.

    Thanks, you should write a guide for new players as that answered everything perfectly!!

    I didn't realise they all stack in your inventory. The stacks are quite large so its gonna take me a while to get a single stack of anything!
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  • Llania
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    A stack is 200 items. Your guild store is accessed from the bank, I think it's just below the option for guild bank. I think that the guild sets you as a new guild member regardless of how long you've been playing - I find I am unable to deposit or withdraw from guild banks. Also, I could be blacklisted, lol. I withdrew loads of stuff from a guild bank, intending to use it for crafting to level up and also intending to replace the materials with the created items, but I got thrown out of the guild for ransacking their stuff. Oops.

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  • Asardes
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    Suter1972 wrote: »

    Thanks, you should write a guide for new players as that answered everything perfectly!!

    I didn't realise they all stack in your inventory. The stacks are quite large so its gonna take me a while to get a single stack of anything!

    Nah, when I finish a zone on a char I have at least one stack of all 4 refined materials from deconstruction and 1 stack of the raw ones from gathering. I put the latter in bank to refine on my main - he has all the passives - then throw everything on the guild stores. They sell for a few dozen gold per unit, which is not bad. If a sanded wood is 15 gold per unit the whole stack is 3K. Which is not bad for a starter player.


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    Valinor Overflow: Trader
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    Characters:
    Asardes | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 50 | Master Crafter: all traits & recipes, all styles released before High Isle
    Alxaril Nelcarion | 50 High Elf Sorcerer | AD AR 20 |
    Dro'Bear Three-paws | 50 Khajiit Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Veronique Nicole | 50 Breton Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Sabina Flavia Cosades | 50 Imperial Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Ervesa Neloren | 50 Dark Elf Dragonknight | EP AR 20 |
    Fendar Khodwin | 50 Redguard Sorcerer | DC AR 20 |
    Surilanwe of Lillandril | 50 High Elf Nightblade | AD AR 20 |
    Joleen the Swift | 50 Redguard Templar | DC AR 20 |
    Draynor Telvanni | 50 Dark Elf Warden | EP AR 20 |
    Claudius Tharn | 50 Necromancer | DC AR 20 |
    Nazura-la the Bonedancer | 50 Necromancer | AD AR 20 |

    Tharkul gro-Shug | 50 Orc Dragonknight | DC AR 4 |
    Ushruka gra-Lhurgash | 50 Orc Sorcerer | AD AR 4 |
    Cienwen ferch Llywelyn | 50 Breton Nightblade | DC AR 4 |
    Plays-with-Sunray | 50 Argonian Templar | EP AR 4 |
    Milariel | 50 Wood Elf Warden | AD AR 4 |
    Scheei-Jul | 50 Necromancer | EP AR 4 |

    PC-NA CP 1800+
    30,000+ Achievement Points before High Isle
    Member of:
    Savage Blade: Majestic Machette


    Characters:
    Asardes the Exile | 50 Nord Dragonknight | EP AR 30 |
  • Tevalaur
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    Suter1972 wrote: »
    cheers for all the advice guys.

    I seem to have loads of different materials/stones/runes (some purple ones) but being new I don't know if they are good or bad.

    I also don't know how much makes ' a stack'.

    The guild im in im down as a 'newbie' type so don't even know where the guild shop is. I also cant deposit or buy from guild bank so ive no way to sell anything I collect and have no use for (runes and ores for blacksmith)

    A stack is usually 200 items, once you have 200 your inventory (if you don't have the crafting bag) starts a 2nd stack (some items only stack to 100 however).

    You access the guild store from any banker -- however the guild bank and guild store are two different things. Anything you put in the guild bank is donated to the guild, usually for raffles and whatnot (which is why often only the top folks can pull from it). You want the Guild Store, and then to buy/sell items there.
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