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vMSA- not a nerf thread
Holy-Dope
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After been going through a lot of posts about nerfing the vMSA arena i decided to make a post here about not nerfing it but fixing it. Nothing new here, same old story.
I've never completed the vMSA though and nMSA offer no challenge. My progress so far on three different characters is stuck on the last boss. So what fixes i'm asking for?
1. RNG in some stages i.e. Stage 6/7 shoud be fixed. Exploding Shrooms? It's not bad but can be made better.
2. FIX THE LAG- My typical ping during all the trials normal or vet, or during any gaemplay is 180-220, which is fine for me with between 30-50 fps game is playable enough for me. In any zone but Wrothgar/ vMSA i survive. Hell even in Cyrodill i dont go over 250 in a laggy battle with 50/50/50. But the moment i step in vMSA it jumps over 500/600. i mean wth? Everytime on last boss nothing kills me but a half second lag spike here and there and one missed action to prevent incoming damage or self-heal. I'm tryign to weave LA with skills and my hands get stuck i animation and seconds later skill fire. I roll dodge out of red in time but next moment i'm dead, cause i saw it 1/4 second late and roll dodge wasn't noticed. So please fix the lag in there.
I know these thread will be lost in the sea of another threads about lag in wrothgar and no one from ZOS will even look at it let alone read it and understand the pain of not only me but many others who go through this. But I've to say it.
I've never completed the vMSA though and nMSA offer no challenge. My progress so far on three different characters is stuck on the last boss. So what fixes i'm asking for?
1. RNG in some stages i.e. Stage 6/7 shoud be fixed. Exploding Shrooms? It's not bad but can be made better.
2. FIX THE LAG- My typical ping during all the trials normal or vet, or during any gaemplay is 180-220, which is fine for me with between 30-50 fps game is playable enough for me. In any zone but Wrothgar/ vMSA i survive. Hell even in Cyrodill i dont go over 250 in a laggy battle with 50/50/50. But the moment i step in vMSA it jumps over 500/600. i mean wth? Everytime on last boss nothing kills me but a half second lag spike here and there and one missed action to prevent incoming damage or self-heal. I'm tryign to weave LA with skills and my hands get stuck i animation and seconds later skill fire. I roll dodge out of red in time but next moment i'm dead, cause i saw it 1/4 second late and roll dodge wasn't noticed. So please fix the lag in there.
I know these thread will be lost in the sea of another threads about lag in wrothgar and no one from ZOS will even look at it let alone read it and understand the pain of not only me but many others who go through this. But I've to say it.
DC- Holy DOPE, Altmer Nightblade
(And many those who did not make it to the end R.I.P.)
(And many those who did not make it to the end R.I.P.)
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Wrecking_Blow_Spam✭✭✭✭✭
✭Aggree it does not need nerfing.
Although I have a question to you, how long have you been on the last boss?
I've recently been running Vma with non BiS gear and I notice final boss is normally not to bad.
The Ice Arena on the other hand... Something always seems to go wrong in there.Xbox one EU
8 Flawless conquerors on all class specs (4 stam, 4 magicka)
Doesn't stand in red1 -
Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, your right, it does not need nerfed.
Stamina DPS just need to be able to do it without *** vigor.0 -
Vaoh✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ScooberSteve wrote: »Everyone dies last round hundreds of times. Just keep doing it.
Last round is easy for me. Now Stage 7 (Poison Bulb/Murkmire stage) is the most dangerous place.
Multiple "danger" Rounds exist in vMA, but Stage 7 is always really dangerous for me.0 -
SublimeSparo✭✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »No, your right, it does not need nerfed.
Stamina DPS just need to be able to do it without *** vigor.
Stam sorc can do it without vigour. Besides vigour takes like a day to getPS4 EU CP900. PS4 NA CP600,
vAA HM ☆ vHRC HM ☆ vSO HM ☆ vMOL
4th Console vMOL clear,
vMA cleared on all classes stam & magic
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High Sparo - Altmer - mSo DD.
Wood Sparo - Bosmer - sNB DD
Nord Sparo - Nord -sDK DD/Tank.
Bubble Girl - Imperial -sTe DD
Succubus Sue - Breton - mNB Tank.
Andrana Stormlock - Altmer - mTe Healer/ DD
Elvali Marvani - Dunmer - mDK DD.
Venemus Draconem - Redguard - sDK DD
Jayri Leki - Redguard - sSo DD.
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You wont stop me - Altmer - mSo DD
Stab in the dark - Khajiit - sNB DD
Jabjabjab Beambeambeam - Dunmer - mTe DD
Spatium Auxiliarus - Imperial - hTe Tank&bank
Spectre - Altmer - mNB DD
Can't-Main-Tank -Argonian - sDK offTank1 -
Doctordarkspawn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭SublimeSparo wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »No, your right, it does not need nerfed.
Stamina DPS just need to be able to do it without *** vigor.
Stam sorc can do it without vigour. Besides vigour takes like a day to get
Pics or it didn't happen.
Also if you were arguing that it's perfectly fine the way it is for stam DPS....That's one out of four classes, soooo...
But no seriously I think VMA just needs recalibrated a bit. I think the mechanics can be touched up, I think the ballance can be improved loads, and I think it just needs looked at after -all- the way we have come since orsinium.Edited by Doctordarkspawn on August 20, 2016 7:07AM0 -
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I agree.
the difficulty of VMA is fine, it is the bugs that need to be fixed.
with stage 7 I dont really mind the RNG poison turds but what I hate is when one of them is under a bush and I cant see it. make the poison things more visible or get rid of the stupid bushes that are in the arena.
stage 5 has a bug where sometimes a platform gets broken but it looks like it still there and if you dont pay attention it'll kill you. stage 5 also has a bug where it randomly kicks me out midway through the stage.
the bugs are what make this game frustrating.0 -
DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭SublimeSparo wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »No, your right, it does not need nerfed.
Stamina DPS just need to be able to do it without *** vigor.
Stam sorc can do it without vigour. Besides vigour takes like a day to get
Yes...a whole day to get.PC Master Race
1001CP
8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
Master Angler
Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
Tamriel Hero
Grand Overlord
Every Skyshard
Down With BOP!0 -
Czirne✭✭✭✭Speaking of RNG, i would love to see some inteligent trait drops - yesterday I done it twice and got powered greatsword and sharpened resto staff
How lucky am i?
anyway, I agree that shrooms in stage 7 should not spawn under the shield, - its fail no matter how good you are or what you do, its juts bad luck.I believe in lagless Cyrodiil!1 -
Holy-Dope✭✭✭Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »Aggree it does not need nerfing.
Although I have a question to you, how long have you been on the last boss?
I've recently been running Vma with non BiS gear and I notice final boss is normally not to bad.
The Ice Arena on the other hand... Something always seems to go wrong in there.
I have dies on last boss so far 100+ times...have stopped counting...problem is not the mechanics...i've managed a few times to get all 3 crystal down and back to ground floor...problem are the lag spikes...not only on the end boss but in the whole arena...DC- Holy DOPE, Altmer Nightblade
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DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NERF VMA RNG LOOTTABLE
Or just make it even. No way is it even. Resto and bow are by far the most common. Opening the chest it's like the destros have a 1% chance but then the resto is a 20% chance. I've had 3 good destros in a few hundred runs. Whereas too many of everything else except daggers. I even got treated to 3 charged S&B drops this week.PC Master Race
1001CP
8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
Master Angler
Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
Tamriel Hero
Grand Overlord
Every Skyshard
Down With BOP!0 -
Holy-Dope✭✭✭and..........finally.......I FINISHED IT......
/FACEPALM- MSA Sword 1st ever drop :-(DC- Holy DOPE, Altmer Nightblade
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Andy S has a video of him getting over a 570,000 score without vigor except for stage 2 and 3. He could obviously do it all without vigor.0
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Vigor takes like no time to get and stamina classes now can get the highest scores due to more DPS. My magicka DPS best scores are around 500k and my stam dk is at 530k.0
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Haquor✭✭✭✭✭Doctordarkspawn wrote: »SublimeSparo wrote: »Doctordarkspawn wrote: »No, your right, it does not need nerfed.
Stamina DPS just need to be able to do it without *** vigor.
Stam sorc can do it without vigour. Besides vigour takes like a day to get
Pics or it didn't happen.
Also if you were arguing that it's perfectly fine the way it is for stam DPS....That's one out of four classes, soooo...
But no seriously I think VMA just needs recalibrated a bit. I think the mechanics can be touched up, I think the ballance can be improved loads, and I think it just needs looked at after -all- the way we have come since orsinium.
Vigor does not take a day. It takes a few hours of using siege, repairing walls... throwing aoes on zergs or throwing heals. It is really not a barrier anymore. I have 9 alt characters (other than my main) that i have ranked to assault/support 10 for the passives.
Assault 5 is nothing anymore. Seriously... actuslly go to cyrodil snd find out for yourself. Stop the QQ about vigor. My god.0