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Why oh WHY don't we have unarmed skills?
Sure, we CAN fight with our fists, but I want to roleplay as a medieval Rocky! I want to crush my opponent with my bare fists in PvP! Come over here Molag Small-Balls, I'll take you standing on one foot, I'll 1v1 you with my eyes closed! Come on, put 'em up, put 'em up!
But seriously, this would make things allot more fun, AND could lead more unique builds and playstyles. What do you guys think?https://youtube.com/watch?v=L81MFGEqg3c
Edited by TheAngelofDeath99 on August 20, 2016 7:21PM But seriously, this would make things allot more fun, AND could lead more unique builds and playstyles. What do you guys think?https://youtube.com/watch?v=L81MFGEqg3c
Why oh WHY don't we have unarmed skills? 44 votes
Yes and here's why:
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No and this is why:
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DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No and this is why:Fist vs Giant Hammer.....only going to be one winner.
Plus what happens then if you punch someone in 7/7 heavy? Would you take damage?PC Master Race
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DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No and this is why:Plus they probably want to avoid gang tactics. You know you'd team up and find a noob and beat on him badly lol.PC Master Race
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Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DRXHarbinger wrote: »Fist vs Giant Hammer.....only going to be one winner.
That really depends on a lot more than their weapons
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runagate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I want to make comments on the realism of blocking a greatsword with one's wrists but we block fireballs with bows and the bows still work afterwards.
I played unarmed in Asheron's Call and they had these keen little caestūs that made it make a tad more sense.
I also had the highest level "thrown weapons" spec (by about 5x over) and PvPed tossing pumpkins and stoups at people that could cast spells 100 yards wide and 30' tall. Easily the most gimped class ever.0 -
Solariken✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes and here's why:I like unarmed/martial arts fighting styles but also prefer slinging spells from my hands rather than a stick.0 -
Burning_Talons✭✭✭✭✭DRXHarbinger wrote: »Fist vs Giant Hammer.....only going to be one winner.
Plus what happens then if you punch someone in 7/7 heavy? Would you take damage?
The fist would win obviously. Id hit a 4pc b4 u even swing that heavy hammer0 -
Holycannoli✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Because it's bad enough we have high DPS dual wielding.
We don't need unarmed ninja monks running around kicking and punching to death things that use armor and weapons, even if this is a world of magic and unbelievable things.
Edited by Holycannoli on August 20, 2016 10:55PM3 -
Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭That guy in the vid is really a pain to listen to.. BUT of course he has some points, yet there are many counter points too, as to why dual wielding can be effective and deadly 0 -
Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No and this is why:Yeah, no. Go try blocking an axe with your fists in real life. And also to the people who say "it would be about dodging instead of blocking", so you basically want to keep having to roll dodge over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over? Didn't think so, people have shields for a reason; to defend themselves. People also have weapons for a reason, which is to do damage. Unless you're drunk or stupid, you realistically do not want to run bare fisted into a giant axe fight.
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Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If you dodge a guy using a heavy weapon, you got a moment or two while he's off balance0 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No and this is why:Well u can't have it cause then you won't have weapon swap.
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Holycannoli✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Daemons_Bane wrote: »That guy in the vid is really a pain to listen to.. BUT of course he has some points, yet there are many counter points too, as to why dual wielding can be effective and deadly
Dual wielding was used (to an extent) in real life but never in the way it's presented in games. Rapier + main gauche for instance.0 -
Lucius_Aelius✭✭✭✭No and this is why:Unarmed being added would only make sense if fighting was more dynamic and allowed for people to be disarmed or something like that, it's just not something that makes sense in the current system, if someone can just use their fists instead of a weapon and do just as well then what point is there having weapons at all? They're hard to make and hard to get, if they weren't better it would be pointless.Daggerfall Covenant - Scourge (Xbox NA) - GT: Lucius Aelius - Lord - 648CP
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Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No and this is why:Daemons_Bane wrote: »If you dodge a guy using a heavy weapon, you got a moment or two while he's off balance
That's fine and dandy in real life, but in game there still really wouldn't be much of an advantage, unless you want to change the mechanics of the game to make it more like this, which isn't going to happen.
What it comes down to is the time required to do something like this, and whether or not there is enough player demand for it. As for time, there are dozens of other far more pressing things for them to work on than this. And in terms of player demand, there isn't nearly enough players who really actually want it for Zeni to go in, redesign some stuff, make new abilities, and bla bla bla just for a few people.
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Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Pretty sure it have lots of support actually but it's probably also true that there might be other stuff to do first 0 -
Jade1986✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭DRXHarbinger wrote: »Fist vs Giant Hammer.....only going to be one winner.
Plus what happens then if you punch someone in 7/7 heavy? Would you take damage?
Please read TES lore.
Unarmed has been part of TES since the beginning and is VERY prevelant in the lore. It should have been most def in the game, just like spears.3 -
Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No and this is why:DRXHarbinger wrote: »Fist vs Giant Hammer.....only going to be one winner.
Plus what happens then if you punch someone in 7/7 heavy? Would you take damage?
Please read TES lore.
Unarmed has been part of TES since the beginning and is VERY prevelant in the lore. It should have been most def in the game, just like spears.
Yes it has been in the lore and previous games, that doesn't mean we need Zeni to drop everything (if they are doing anything, heh) and work on something like this while we've got a lot of other more important things that need to be worked on.Edited by Stovahkiin on August 20, 2016 11:59PMBeware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!0 -
RAGUNAnoOne✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes and here's why:
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Panda_iMunch✭✭✭✭Yes and here's why:Although it should be fist weapons, like knuckles or other weapons like that!1
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Jaronking✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't think they will add with how easy the game is I don't want people saying you can beat the game with only your fist.0 -
Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No and this is why:I don't think they will add with how easy the game is I don't want people saying you can beat the game with only your fist.
I agree with this too. And another thing I've though about is that, if this was implemented, then whether people like it or not, the defense stats of people running around bare handed obviously need to be a lot lower than the people with weapons, specifically melee weapons. It would extremely annoying to be in PvP and be unable to kill a guy that is just trolling you by punching you over and over because his defense stats are unrealistically as high or even higher than yours are, despite the fact that you actually have a weapon that you can effectively block and bash with.
Edited by Stovahkiin on August 21, 2016 3:14AMBeware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!0 -
Stovahkiin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No and this is why:double post
Edited by Stovahkiin on August 21, 2016 3:13AMBeware the battle cattle, but don't *fear* the battle cattle!0 -
Haquor✭✭✭✭✭No and this is why:You attack me with your hand, i block with my sword and your hand falls off.0
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Daemons_Bane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Stovahkiin wrote: »I don't think they will add with how easy the game is I don't want people saying you can beat the game with only your fist.
I agree with this too. And another thing I've though about is that, if this was implemented, then whether people like it or not, the defense stats of people running around bare handed obviously need to be a lot lower than the people with weapons, specifically melee weapons. It would extremely annoying to be in PvP and be unable to kill a guy that is just trolling you by punching you over and over because his defense stats are unrealistically as high or even higher than yours are, despite the fact that you actually have a weapon that you can effectively block and bash with.
If realism is your concern, why does archers not rule PvP then? Bodkin arrows laugh at your armor.. They should pretty much bypass whatever defense you have, if it's not a shield1 -
DRXHarbinger✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No and this is why:DRXHarbinger wrote: »Fist vs Giant Hammer.....only going to be one winner.
Plus what happens then if you punch someone in 7/7 heavy? Would you take damage?
Please read TES lore.
Unarmed has been part of TES since the beginning and is VERY prevelant in the lore. It should have been most def in the game, just like spears.
I have all lore. No other game has had pvp. That's a huge thing to be taken into consideration here, you cant have people punching heavy armour malubeth trollplars to death. It's just not going to work unless they make it OP as hell and then guess what? Nerf fist QQ incoming.
Guess the ultimate could be a haymaker though. Summon a fist of the divines and shatter an enemies skull in one punch, 30k damage and cases enemies to be concussed on impact, range 10M.
Really don't see it working in this game.
The QQ from people getting bullied on the Cyro bridges is going to be unreal...I got punched off my horse and beaten on by 5 bigger boys.PC Master Race
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