JustSnilloc wrote: »

On a Templar Tank

... Currently, I'm a stamina sword/board build, but I'm thinking about going to a Magicka Sword/Board build. Heavy Armor as the primary armor (maybe) and I guess two pieces of light, or maybe one light one heavy for this proposed build. The idea would be to utilize magicka moves as my primary source of damage/support, while stamina would be reserved for a few moves and blocking.

Thoughts? Insight? Advice?

I'm using an Imperial btw.

What stamina moves are you thinking of? It sounds like you don't plan on using many stamina abilities that will actually be doing damage so you don't really need the bonus of Pelinal's. That's at least what I'm understanding from your post and it seems like you would do better running Black Rose instead for the stam regen you will get while blocking.

To specify, here's specifically where I feel like I'm under performing...
- Tanking, I feel like I can't take too much damage. I have 15k health (with generic armor, obviously could be higher) 20k spell resist, 18k physical. Players destroy me, and dungeons feel too hard a lot of times.
- Damage, I know it shouldn't be a focus as a tank, but I feel like I don't deal enough at 1163.
- Skills, I'm having a hard time settling down on skills. I've looked at what others have done and it just doesn't feel right.

As a "tank" in heavy armor, I feel like I should be performing much better than I am.

I personally think pelenials would only be good with medium armor for the 12% WD boost that would then also apply to your SD.

JustSnilloc wrote: »

I guess the only main stamina moves that I would be using would come from the Sword/Shield line. Plus it'd give me actual damage for using Sword/Shield. I suppose looking at it though, it might not be entirely worth it. Maybe?

I feel like I'm not doing too well with this current build. I'll grant you I haven't put any sets together on him, but I have 250CP. Maybe I should run Pelinal's aptitude to give me stronger Magicka attacks instead? Just keep the attributes as is? I just feel like I'm under performing.

You're not going to be dealing much damage as a tank with sword and shield in the first place.

I was thinking a sorcerer could utilize this well. Weaving heavy attacks so you could use dark exchange readily. Using cp and bound armaments to make your heavies do damage and restore more resources. Doing this while using skills like matriarch to help heal you and the group, casting the immediately armed place anywhere mines to immobilize, heal you with the passive, and deal damage. Constant healing with surge and hurricane. Crystal frags procs too? Could be a really tanky build if done correctly.

All heavy armor impen, molag and velidreth, id utilize endurance over agility personally since dark exchange is your magicka regen. Id probably go snb for the charge and stun in 1 move on my back bar and duel wield on my front. Gotta have hakeijo enchants on all gear.

Seems fun, always wanted a true battle mage.

In my view Pelinal's makes the most sense on a tank build, since Tanks are built to multitask like that and there's some interesting areas where you can make use of it (sap essence on a stamina build, healing on a Templar build, etc.) While it won't be as strong as it would be for a true healer, or a true magician, it will make your supplementary skills more effective, or at least some of them. I've been pondering this as well for the same reason, but where I'm having the hangup is choosing what other sets to pair it with, and in that I'm not certain. It seems to me that you're better off pumping up weapon damage though and realize you're a tank and not going to do as much damage as a dps guy. The fact he set supports regeneration like it does really leads me to believe it was meant for tanks.

I've been running it a bunch of late and here's my insights having tried it as a healer and a PVP and PVE DPS

Healing Bar



Stam Bar




It's incredible for healing as a Stamina build. Like mind blowingly. It would not work as well on Stam sorcs and Stamblades,
since they don't have easy access to major mending. I'm healing better than most non templar magic builds could ever hope because of Echoing Vigor and the fact that I get to heal from two separate pools.




And I'm able to put out loads of DPS while healing, thanks in large part to minor Berserk from Combat Prayer, and major and minor brutality from the DK skill line, and empower from mages guild skills.




Using Brawler and Obsidian shield with multiple hots surrounding you really makes you feel invincible. Slotting fighter's guild skills and Inner Light on the restro bar maximizes it's utility, along with Combat prayer and either Mutagen or healing ward








It works well as a set if you are a stam build wanting to add AOE, because even slightly nerfed magicka AOE is stronger than Stam builds have access to. You'll want your magic bar to be dual wield, and your Stam bar to be Two-handed for Brutality buffs. You can slot 3 magic skills of moderate cost or 2 moderate with 2 low cost before it becomes a drain on resources. I soloed a boss in Vet Fungal Grotto and one in Crypt of Hearts with this setup. It's incredibly OP.

Destro staff doesn't seem to be as viable as DK class skills and Restro staff skills, but I'm still early in the testing.

As to tanking, you don't have enough resistance. 20K is only 30% mitigation. Take it at least to 30K if not the cap.

And you have WAY too little health. You want a minimum of 25K as a tank. Pelinals can be a good PVP tanking set, but I'm not sure if it's the ideal PVE tanking setup, though it could be doable. Pelinals + Tanking moster helm set + Roar of Alkosh could be a decent trial setup if you specced your gear for it. It would also give you most of your lost penetration back from not going with light armor.

I'm focusing on a tank style sorc.

Bar 1. Liquid lightning, bound armaments, mines(instant cast for healing and immediate rooting), hurricane, frags, dbos

Bar 2. Shuffle, armaments, critical surge, dark exchange for magicka recovery, invasion, negate.

We'll see.