Zander98 wrote: »

The games been skewing that way for a long time. Either zerg vs zerg or PVDoor.
The only keeps I've seen good balanced 14v20 or the like for months has been Drake, Dragon or Brindle. Because the faction zerg hates their horses.

Since the town changes, I've been loving the fights we've been getting at the outpost keeps.

dashima wrote: »

Force-Siphon wrote: »

Lol 30 ad yeah right you're whole faction was there

It was only Forza's small group and DK that held out there, together they add up to around 30-40.

Saramis literally admitted to there being two DC guilds there (who typically run 20+) + big number of pugs. That's minimum 80 DC. They added up past that number over the course of 2 hours. I may have exaggerated a little bit but not rly cause they certainly got 100+ wipes on DC lol.

Honestly.. The number disparity was maybe 10 max 15.

davey1107 wrote: »

Honestly, if I could get everyone into nickel I would. A long, silly defense grind is worth it...so much more fun than "oops, they zerged Alesia, okay let's Zerg ash, ok we got Alesia back, oops we lost ash, ok they zerged Alesia..."

ZOS has completely failed to circumvent zerging (not totally their fault, but still) so we play the ga,Es we can play to make it fun.

I think you're trading one slog in for another.

Sitting in Nikel, letting everything else go, means that there now has to be cleanup. Faction now has to zerg out of the gates through BB/BM, Fare, into Alessia/Roe/Brin. After it was all said and done, the zerging was worse, not better.

dashima wrote: »

caeliusstarbreaker wrote: »

dashima wrote: »

Force-Siphon wrote: »

Lol 30 ad yeah right you're whole faction was there

It was only Forza's small group and DK that held out there, together they add up to around 30-40.

Saramis literally admitted to there being two DC guilds there (who typically run 20+) + big number of pugs. That's minimum 80 DC. They added up past that number over the course of 2 hours. I may have exaggerated a little bit but not rly cause they certainly got 100+ wipes on DC lol.

Honestly.. The number disparity was maybe 10 max 15.

Oh my god... we could argue this forever but you did have at least Bones, Saramis and Shadowgrabber's guilds there, who all run some of the largest raids in TF, only second to Pact Militia. DK's numbers, even though they run big, don't even come close to that. But whatever, good duel.

Dude, I'm not arguing that there wasn't a lot of people there... I'm just saying there wasn't 80+ DC to 30 AD. I counted 22 on the front flag alone. Not counting what I couldn't see on on transit/scroll type areas, Nevermind the amount on top, note the groups on siege by stairs or back flags. You're whole faction minus maybe 8-14 people were there.

Hey man I came in, ran my head against the wall a couple of times, then went down took roe, screwed around with EP and their scroll, then we came back up and opened another door, and were able to get a foothold which was when you guys lost it. I believe saramis were the ones who ran a scroll back too.

Not saying I didn't have fun fighting everyone. Or that those who defended nikel didn't do good job... Just saying the numbers were a lot closer.