The Stormproof requirement for Trial guilds is stupid

Burning_Talons · August 2016

Why do I need to complete a solo instance to DPS in a damn 12man raid? What if I dont even have the DLC are you just gonna gateway everyone without the DLC away? I killed Bloodspawn in around 40s but because Im stuck on Stage 9 boss on VMA. Its just dumb that Ill never complete a Trail because I refuse to finish VMA because I dont wanna have to do 5 rounds again just to get to the boss BC zeni doesnt wanna CP rounds. So again what does a solo instance have to do with a group play? Is it your way to feel special by having a dumb requirement just to say your guild is exclusive?

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Nestor · August 2016

Since when is any gear required for any content?

spud1639 · August 2016

Well they aren't worth your time if they act like that, just elitist being elitist.

timidobserver · August 2016

So find a different guild.....

Abeille · August 2016

Well, it is their guild and they can put whatever silly requirement they want

Burning_Talons · August 2016

Nestor wrote: »

Since when is any gear required for any content?

To join a Trial guild...(All of the one i applied for apparently) requires stormproof

spud1639 wrote: »

Well they aren't worth your time if they act like that, just elitist being elitist.

I cant find any

timidobserver wrote: »

So find a different guild.....

Cant find any

Recremen · August 2016

They've probably found it to be a pretty good metric for what they're looking for in a player. A lot of guilds want people who have either done the work of creating a good build, or done the research of copying a good one, and who then will follow through and achieve something notable in the game. You might be able to complete the content they're running without all that, but you might not be the kind of player they want to run with.

DRXHarbinger · August 2016

Tell them I've got a stam dk. 40k dps and stormproof without vigor. I'm alliance rank 0 on that toon. Can't survive a trial but meets requirements....strange people these days. Not worth playing with. What they should ask for us a video of this bloodspawn test...see thier stam after 40s 99% of players are empty after that. Well useful.

Burning_Talons · August 2016

Abeille wrote: »

Well, it is their guild and they can put whatever silly requirement they want

Never said they couldnt( I can say what requirement I want is stupid aswell)

Arthg · August 2016

In my book, this sort of requirement is guaranteed 0% fun, 100% underachieving smugness.

SHADOW2KK · August 2016

Getting Stormproof is way easier than getting Flawless Conqueror

In regards to what ya said OP, think its a case of the trial guild wanting each person to be able to carry their own weight, e.g in the vet versions of Maw etc, ya really need a very well optimised and skilled group, or you just wipe constantly.

Not defending them by any means, but for the hardest content, then its not that much of a requirement.

Plus there has been save progress on VMA for ages, get your title in your own time, doesnt have to be in one sitting, unless you are going for weeklys.

luen79rwb17_ESO · August 2016

Find another guild? There are people who want to do content as efficient as they can and they're free to set the requirements they choose to.

If you don't like or don't meet said requirements you're free to move on and find a place more in tone with you.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · August 2016

Curtain Call took me in and I'm a non-Stormproof noob at trials. Nice folks.

Burning_Talons · August 2016

Recremen wrote: »

They've probably found it to be a pretty good metric for what they're looking for in a player. A lot of guilds want people who have either done the work of creating a good build, or done the research of copying a good one, and who then will follow through and achieve something notable in the game. You might be able to complete the content they're running without all that, but you might not be the kind of player they want to run with.

Let me say this again. How is my solo capability (Healing myself and self sustaining) determine me DPsing a trial while there is a healer and support?

AverageJo3Gam3r · August 2016

Especially because I know you main a mDK. I haven't completed vMA yet--started running it a month ago and got to round 9 on my stamDK, and stopped to wait for the update. I tried it on my stamDK, mDK, mSorc, and magplar, and mDK was by far the hardest with lower damage, no speed, no execute, lackluster heals, and more resource issues. Damage is DoT based so often I found myself overwhelmed with adds before the DoTs ticked away enough. Got as far as round 3 then gave up on my mDK.

StamDK is pretty good though. Great resource management with battle roar, speed with bow passives, and wings OP. I assume you're a dark elf--you could always respec to stamina, complete it for the title, then respec back. I don't even think you need BiS gear (I run a 62 second bloodspawn on my stamDK, bad I know

). I've made it to round 9 with gold dual wield lekis axes, a gold offset bow, endurance jewlery, 5pc hundings, and 2pc bloodspawn.

It will be our secret

Jaronking · August 2016

Burning_Talons wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Since when is any gear required for any content?

To join a Trial guild...(All of the one i applied for apparently) requires stormproof

spud1639 wrote: »

Well they aren't worth your time if they act like that, just elitist being elitist.

I cant find any

timidobserver wrote: »

So find a different guild.....

Cant find any

What guild did you apply to?

Burning_Talons · August 2016

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Getting Stormproof is way easier than getting Flawless Conqueror

In regards to what ya said OP, think its a case of the trial guild wanting each person to be able to carry their own weight, e.g in the vet versions of Maw etc, ya really need a very well optimised and skilled group, or you just wipe constantly.

Not defending them by any means, but for the hardest content, then its not that much of a requirement.

Plus there has been save progress on VMA for ages, get your title in your own time, doesnt have to be in one sitting, unless you are going for weeklys.

And if I dont even have Orsinium?

Sophist_NA · August 2016

Not saying I agree or disagree with guilds asking for that requirement, but I can see the logic behind it.

vMA is a good test in terms of your capabilities to perform during mechanically-intense fights. It's a skill test. Bloodspawn is only a dps check because all you do is stand still and do your rotation in a perfect environment, which in a raid setting, will almost certainly won't happen.

Burning_Talons · August 2016

Jaronking wrote: »

Burning_Talons wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

Since when is any gear required for any content?

To join a Trial guild...(All of the one i applied for apparently) requires stormproof

spud1639 wrote: »

Well they aren't worth your time if they act like that, just elitist being elitist.

I cant find any

timidobserver wrote: »

So find a different guild.....

Cant find any

What guild did you apply to?

Guilded Reaves, Elyssiums guilds, and a few from the forums everyone wants that damn title

Rayya_Blackheart · August 2016

Well, ours doesn't require vMA. Our DPS run it in their spare time to try to get something to give them a better edge but it's hardly a requirement.

O.o

Doctordarkspawn · August 2016

Burning_Talons wrote: »

Recremen wrote: »

They've probably found it to be a pretty good metric for what they're looking for in a player. A lot of guilds want people who have either done the work of creating a good build, or done the research of copying a good one, and who then will follow through and achieve something notable in the game. You might be able to complete the content they're running without all that, but you might not be the kind of player they want to run with.

Let me say this again. How is my solo capability (Healing myself and self sustaining) determine me DPsing a trial while there is a healer and support?

Because if you can work under the pressure of having to add self sustain in your rotation and you know how to exploit mechanics you will probably excell with a safety mat like a tank and healer.

I dont like the practice but there is the logic, do with it what you will.

Woeler · August 2016

Lol guilds that require that have no idea what they're doing.

Burning_Talons · August 2016

Sophist_NA wrote: »

Not saying I agree or disagree with guilds asking for that requirement, but I can see the logic behind it.

vMA is a good test in terms of your capabilities to perform during mechanically-intense fights. It's a skill test. Bloodspawn is only a dps check because all you do is stand still and do your rotation in a perfect environment, which in a raid setting, will almost certainly won't happen.

You know what else is a good test? Running a practice trial with said person? Where yknow you can actually see them do rather then something you never even watched them do? They could have died 3400 times in VMA and you wouldnt know

SHADOW2KK · August 2016

Burning_Talons wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Getting Stormproof is way easier than getting Flawless Conqueror

In regards to what ya said OP, think its a case of the trial guild wanting each person to be able to carry their own weight, e.g in the vet versions of Maw etc, ya really need a very well optimised and skilled group, or you just wipe constantly.

Not defending them by any means, but for the hardest content, then its not that much of a requirement.

Plus there has been save progress on VMA for ages, get your title in your own time, doesnt have to be in one sitting, unless you are going for weeklys.

And if I dont even have Orsinium?

Um well buy it or sub?

Complete VMA, problem solved, or join other guilds, plenty out there

Nikkor · August 2016

Burning_Talons wrote: »

Why do I need to complete a solo instance to DPS in a damn 12man raid? What if I dont even have the DLC are you just gonna gateway everyone without the DLC away? I killed Bloodspawn in around 40s but because Im stuck on Stage 9 boss on VMA. Its just dumb that Ill never complete a Trail because I refuse to finish VMA because I dont wanna have to do 5 rounds again just to get to the boss BC zeni doesnt wanna CP rounds. So again what does a solo instance have to do with a group play? Is it your way to feel special by having a dumb requirement just to say your guild is exclusive?

why i quit the game.

RebornV3x · August 2016

Yeah that sounds like a dumb guild.

Burning_Talons · August 2016

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Burning_Talons wrote: »

SHADOW2KK wrote: »

Getting Stormproof is way easier than getting Flawless Conqueror

In regards to what ya said OP, think its a case of the trial guild wanting each person to be able to carry their own weight, e.g in the vet versions of Maw etc, ya really need a very well optimised and skilled group, or you just wipe constantly.

Not defending them by any means, but for the hardest content, then its not that much of a requirement.

Plus there has been save progress on VMA for ages, get your title in your own time, doesnt have to be in one sitting, unless you are going for weeklys.

And if I dont even have Orsinium?

Um well buy it or sub?

Complete VMA, problem solved, or join other guilds, plenty out there

Everyone I try requires this. IDK why its like they wanna seem like the best. I could be the best player in the world and not buy Orc and get denied

Woeler wrote: »

Lol guilds that require that have no idea what they're doing.

Wish there was more guilds like yours on Xbox

runagate · August 2016

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

Tell them I've got a stam dk. 40k dps and stormproof without vigor. I'm alliance rank 0 on that toon. Can't survive a trial but meets requirements....strange people these days. Not worth playing with. What they should ask for us a video of this bloodspawn test...see thier stam after 40s 99% of players are empty after that. Well useful.

Yeah, but in your case it'd be a pleasure to have you along on a Trial anyway. Excellent points, though.

RinaldoGandolphi · August 2016

Not defending them, but if you got to Theater of Despair that's the easiest round. The home stretch once you know what to do.

On the last stage take the weapon(axe) signal and dps the boss to 70% ignore the healer don't even for one second attack him or he will cast remembrance for a mega heal.

When the creamatorial guard spawns use annulment, magma armor and burning embers molten whip spam to finish him off quickly and keep the camera panned at the boss and dodge his skull attack

Once he gets to 70% he will call a ghost clan fear and port up to, kill the clan fear on the portal and port up top.

Once up top keep embers and eruption on the crystals and whip/force pulse them down. It's ok if you only get 2 don't panic drop down and kill the guard just like you did last time(this time you don't have idiot shooting skulls at you) then port back up and finish the last one.

Once he goes back down to the bottom grab the defense sigal and drop embers on the boss and grab that gold ghost

From here on out your priority is:

1. Don't let boss get any gold ghosts
2. Don't let the daedra summon the bone giant in the middle
3. Damage the boss

If your making the ghosts your priority you can spectral explosion every time a guard spawns and get free chance to damage

Rinse and repeat

It sounds like a lot but it's really not. You can get the stormproof title everyone here knows you can, you just gotta do it. You know how to do it now! You have a strategy now go get it! Wear that title proud!

Shadesofkin · August 2016

I'm anti Title requirement in most cases.

That being said, it's their right to demand. Find a new guild though, because they're lame.

Rayya_Blackheart · August 2016

OP, you on PC? I can get you an invitation. Granted our first core team is pretty set but we are planning on branching and getting a second.

We're PC, NA, multifactioned late night for raids but usually something going on all day.