NA XBox Scourge - Yellows, what are you doing?

Stratforge · August 2016

Ah I recognize it. Cool cool.

Jaronking · August 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

SRASinister wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually ordered my group of 9 at one point with "there's only 50 of them, nothing to fear, attack!"

This is a comical way to tell your group to push. Glad you got a lot of AP I guess?

Love,
A Scourge Yellow

Lmao trust me he didn't get much AP they got wiped by a pug group and they had more people than the pug group lmao.

Hey @danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO did Render help you and bobcat with your Templar build yet?

You mean having the whole zerg run Malubeth heavy armor?

Hahaha. No one needs to help me with my build.

Lmao yes because running all infused is a great build.

40.6K magicka, 3300 spell power as an Imperial without undaunted. My build is fine, my race will be changed on Tuesday and I got a bank full of armor to cycle through. I'm good, thanks.

You still gets 2 shooted whenever your away from your other 10 magplar in your group.Hey your fine good luck in scrounge .

THEDKEXPERIENCE · August 2016

Jaronking wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

SRASinister wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually ordered my group of 9 at one point with "there's only 50 of them, nothing to fear, attack!"

This is a comical way to tell your group to push. Glad you got a lot of AP I guess?

Love,
A Scourge Yellow

Lmao trust me he didn't get much AP they got wiped by a pug group and they had more people than the pug group lmao.

Hey @danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO did Render help you and bobcat with your Templar build yet?

You mean having the whole zerg run Malubeth heavy armor?

Hahaha. No one needs to help me with my build.

Lmao yes because running all infused is a great build.

40.6K magicka, 3300 spell power as an Imperial without undaunted. My build is fine, my race will be changed on Tuesday and I got a bank full of armor to cycle through. I'm good, thanks.

You still gets 2 shooted whenever your away from your other 10 magplar in your group.Hey your fine good luck in scrounge .

Except that we have like 5 total magplars. Regardless, I'm a glass cannon. If you catch me when I'm running a seige weapon, swapping my bar at the wrong time, or riding by myself 2 shotting me is totally possible. Then again, if I'm in battle (prepared to fight) I'm one of the hardest people to kill as I mist form between many people.

Meanwhile, now you have me interested. How are you gonna "fix my build"? Please say Impen so I can laugh.

Ron_Burgundy_79 · August 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

SRASinister wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually ordered my group of 9 at one point with "there's only 50 of them, nothing to fear, attack!"

This is a comical way to tell your group to push. Glad you got a lot of AP I guess?

Love,
A Scourge Yellow

Lmao trust me he didn't get much AP they got wiped by a pug group and they had more people than the pug group lmao.

Hey @danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO did Render help you and bobcat with your Templar build yet?

You mean having the whole zerg run Malubeth heavy armor?

Hahaha. No one needs to help me with my build.

Lmao yes because running all infused is a great build.

40.6K magicka, 3300 spell power as an Imperial without undaunted. My build is fine, my race will be changed on Tuesday and I got a bank full of armor to cycle through. I'm good, thanks.

You still gets 2 shooted whenever your away from your other 10 magplar in your group.Hey your fine good luck in scrounge .

Except that we have like 5 total magplars. Regardless, I'm a glass cannon. If you catch me when I'm running a seige weapon, swapping my bar at the wrong time, or riding by myself 2 shotting me is totally possible. Then again, if I'm in battle (prepared to fight) I'm one of the hardest people to kill as I mist form between many people.

Meanwhile, now you have me interested. How are you gonna "fix my build"? Please say Impen so I can laugh.

Have you actually tried impen?

THEDKEXPERIENCE · August 2016

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

SRASinister wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually ordered my group of 9 at one point with "there's only 50 of them, nothing to fear, attack!"

This is a comical way to tell your group to push. Glad you got a lot of AP I guess?

Love,
A Scourge Yellow

Lmao trust me he didn't get much AP they got wiped by a pug group and they had more people than the pug group lmao.

Hey @danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO did Render help you and bobcat with your Templar build yet?

You mean having the whole zerg run Malubeth heavy armor?

Hahaha. No one needs to help me with my build.

Lmao yes because running all infused is a great build.

40.6K magicka, 3300 spell power as an Imperial without undaunted. My build is fine, my race will be changed on Tuesday and I got a bank full of armor to cycle through. I'm good, thanks.

You still gets 2 shooted whenever your away from your other 10 magplar in your group.Hey your fine good luck in scrounge .

Except that we have like 5 total magplars. Regardless, I'm a glass cannon. If you catch me when I'm running a seige weapon, swapping my bar at the wrong time, or riding by myself 2 shotting me is totally possible. Then again, if I'm in battle (prepared to fight) I'm one of the hardest people to kill as I mist form between many people.

Meanwhile, now you have me interested. How are you gonna "fix my build"? Please say Impen so I can laugh.

Have you actually tried impen?

Yes. I felt like I was swinging wet noodles. When I used it I died about 10% less, and got about 50% less kills. It just wasn't for me. I like traits that are always in use. Impen only works when someone else crits you which is only about half the time, and then it's only capping bonus damage as opposed to base damage. I can definitely put together a good build with it but nowhere near the (admittedly) insanely overpowered magplar build I have now.

Now with that said, if I'm fighting a superstar, yes, it would help. Thing is 80% of Cyrodiil isn't that. If I have an ice comet queued up (which is almost always) that and RD take care of most opponents.

Honestly the biggest problem I have are wrecking blow spammers cause I prefer to fight at range. Usually the best defense I have for them is to nuke them first. When in doubt mist form and breath of life fix most other issues and let's not forget about my batman like utility belt filled with potions.

Long story short, played almost every magplar build possible (other than malubeth) and my current one is the most effective. That said, I could use a few more tempering alloys so I can be a bit more OP. If you have some feel free to send them over!

THEDKEXPERIENCE · August 2016

Re: Ron Burgundy

Side note, every time I see you in Cyrodiil your name makes me laugh. I usually end up shouting something about Baxter's wheel of cheese.

texassob · August 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

SRASinister wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually ordered my group of 9 at one point with "there's only 50 of them, nothing to fear, attack!"

This is a comical way to tell your group to push. Glad you got a lot of AP I guess?

Love,
A Scourge Yellow

Lmao trust me he didn't get much AP they got wiped by a pug group and they had more people than the pug group lmao.

Hey @danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO did Render help you and bobcat with your Templar build yet?

You mean having the whole zerg run Malubeth heavy armor?

Hahaha. No one needs to help me with my build.

Lmao yes because running all infused is a great build.

40.6K magicka, 3300 spell power as an Imperial without undaunted. My build is fine, my race will be changed on Tuesday and I got a bank full of armor to cycle through. I'm good, thanks.

You still gets 2 shooted whenever your away from your other 10 magplar in your group.Hey your fine good luck in scrounge .

Except that we have like 5 total magplars. Regardless, I'm a glass cannon. If you catch me when I'm running a seige weapon, swapping my bar at the wrong time, or riding by myself 2 shotting me is totally possible. Then again, if I'm in battle (prepared to fight) I'm one of the hardest people to kill as I mist form between many people.

Meanwhile, now you have me interested. How are you gonna "fix my build"? Please say Impen so I can laugh.

Have you actually tried impen?

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

SRASinister wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually ordered my group of 9 at one point with "there's only 50 of them, nothing to fear, attack!"

This is a comical way to tell your group to push. Glad you got a lot of AP I guess?

Love,
A Scourge Yellow

Lmao trust me he didn't get much AP they got wiped by a pug group and they had more people than the pug group lmao.

Hey @danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO did Render help you and bobcat with your Templar build yet?

You mean having the whole zerg run Malubeth heavy armor?

Hahaha. No one needs to help me with my build.

Lmao yes because running all infused is a great build.

40.6K magicka, 3300 spell power as an Imperial without undaunted. My build is fine, my race will be changed on Tuesday and I got a bank full of armor to cycle through. I'm good, thanks.

You still gets 2 shooted whenever your away from your other 10 magplar in your group.Hey your fine good luck in scrounge .

Except that we have like 5 total magplars. Regardless, I'm a glass cannon. If you catch me when I'm running a seige weapon, swapping my bar at the wrong time, or riding by myself 2 shotting me is totally possible. Then again, if I'm in battle (prepared to fight) I'm one of the hardest people to kill as I mist form between many people.

Meanwhile, now you have me interested. How are you gonna "fix my build"? Please say Impen so I can laugh.

Have you actually tried impen?

Yes. I felt like I was swinging wet noodles. When I used it I died about 10% less, and got about 50% less kills. It just wasn't for me. I like traits that are always in use. Impen only works when someone else crits you which is only about half the time, and then it's only capping bonus damage as opposed to base damage. I can definitely put together a good build with it but nowhere near the (admittedly) insanely overpowered magplar build I have now.

Now with that said, if I'm fighting a superstar, yes, it would help. Thing is 80% of Cyrodiil isn't that. If I have an ice comet queued up (which is almost always) that and RD take care of most opponents.

Honestly the biggest problem I have are wrecking blow spammers cause I prefer to fight at range. Usually the best defense I have for them is to nuke them first. When in doubt mist form and breath of life fix most other issues and let's not forget about my batman like utility belt filled with potions.

Long story short, played almost every magplar build possible (other than malubeth) and my current one is the most effective. That said, I could use a few more tempering alloys so I can be a bit more OP. If you have some feel free to send them over!

the old comet/radiant combo classic.....

zuto40 · August 2016

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually ordered my group of 9 at one point with "there's only 50 of them, nothing to fear, attack!"

This is a comical way to tell your group to push. Glad you got a lot of AP I guess?

Love,
A Scourge Yellow

Not so comical if the 50 are truly so weak.

Who knows? They probably were weak. That doesn't change the fact that "nothing to fear, attack" sounds like bad GoT fanfic dialogue.

Sounds like his group was having fun to me. So serious. Whatchu got against a little cheesy dialogue to lighten the mood? I certainly wouldn't lead into a pug smash with serious tactics and battle comms.

I'd imagine it's because @Stratforge knows the truth about @danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO

I've never seen DEECO wipe anything other than the 1v1's down in the arena district

Ha deeco, so many pact pvp guilds are worthless, only one I've been in that's good with less then 12 is big men very big

Lexxypwns · August 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

SRASinister wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually ordered my group of 9 at one point with "there's only 50 of them, nothing to fear, attack!"

This is a comical way to tell your group to push. Glad you got a lot of AP I guess?

Love,
A Scourge Yellow

Lmao trust me he didn't get much AP they got wiped by a pug group and they had more people than the pug group lmao.

Hey @danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO did Render help you and bobcat with your Templar build yet?

You mean having the whole zerg run Malubeth heavy armor?

Hahaha. No one needs to help me with my build.

Lmao yes because running all infused is a great build.

40.6K magicka, 3300 spell power as an Imperial without undaunted. My build is fine, my race will be changed on Tuesday and I got a bank full of armor to cycle through. I'm good, thanks.

You still gets 2 shooted whenever your away from your other 10 magplar in your group.Hey your fine good luck in scrounge .

Except that we have like 5 total magplars. Regardless, I'm a glass cannon. If you catch me when I'm running a seige weapon, swapping my bar at the wrong time, or riding by myself 2 shotting me is totally possible. Then again, if I'm in battle (prepared to fight) I'm one of the hardest people to kill as I mist form between many people.

Meanwhile, now you have me interested. How are you gonna "fix my build"? Please say Impen so I can laugh.

My stamblade is a glass cannon and nobody is 2 shotting him. That's a 6k weapon damage build too, you should definitely try out some impen, for real. If you're not running impen then anyone running shadow stone is going to melt you, regardless of pocket healers, you can't out heal instakills.

Try running 5 Light kags(3 armor, 2 weapons) 5 Transmutation(3 jewels, 2 armor) 2 Skoria. Then you can get away with 4 impen instead of 7 and the transmutation buff will give you the crit resist not to get killed. You'll still have solid burst because skoria procs off sweeps and RO. That should give you 40k mag and 3300 spell damage no problem, not to mention the skoria meteors.

Sandman929 · August 2016

I'm still not sure what to make of Impen, I don't feel any more vulnerable without it outside of duels.

Lexxypwns · August 2016

Sandman929 wrote: »

I'm still not sure what to make of Impen, I don't feel any more vulnerable without it outside of duels.

You're crazy. Running impen so drastically improves your survivability that it allows you to build for less overall defense/sustain and stack even more burst because when you're not getting crazy damage numbers from Crits you can easily outheal incoming damage on most classes. I can't remember the last time I took 8k damage from anything, typically my death recap is filled with 4-5k damage abilities, which, are much easier to deal with than the big heavy hits.

Against people not wearing impen my stamplar and stamblade both nearly 1 shot 25k health builds with dawnbreaker. Stacking crit damage is just too efficient and strong to make anything other than impen/sturdy worthwhile in pvp.

Sandman929 · August 2016

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

I'm still not sure what to make of Impen, I don't feel any more vulnerable without it outside of duels.

You're crazy. Running impen so drastically improves your survivability that it allows you to build for less overall defense/sustain and stack even more burst because when you're not getting crazy damage numbers from Crits you can easily outheal incoming damage on most classes. I can't remember the last time I took 8k damage from anything, typically my death recap is filled with 4-5k damage abilities, which, are much easier to deal with than the big heavy hits.

That's just it. When I'm not running impen, I still don't see huge damage numbers outside of ganking situations and stealthy bomb builds. It's almost like the rise of everyone running impen has resulted in nobody stacking crit. Whether I'm all impen'd or not, I just don't see huge crits regularly. Occasionally, sure.

Lexxypwns · August 2016

Sandman929 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

I'm still not sure what to make of Impen, I don't feel any more vulnerable without it outside of duels.

You're crazy. Running impen so drastically improves your survivability that it allows you to build for less overall defense/sustain and stack even more burst because when you're not getting crazy damage numbers from Crits you can easily outheal incoming damage on most classes. I can't remember the last time I took 8k damage from anything, typically my death recap is filled with 4-5k damage abilities, which, are much easier to deal with than the big heavy hits.

That's just it. When I'm not running impen, I still don't see huge damage numbers outside of ganking situations and stealthy bomb builds. It's almost like the rise of everyone running impen has resulted in nobody stacking crit. Whether I'm all impen'd or not, I just don't see huge crits regularly. Occasionally, sure.

Base crit in medium/light armor is 32%, many popular sets increase crit: Skirmisher, hundings, julianos, viper, etc. I can tell you, people not stacking crit damage are making a mistake, even with 7 impen you still don't get 100% crit resistance. If you're building for damage then CHD is the way to go. Shadow stone is very strong and if you're stamina, rearming trap is nearly broken strong. Huge DoT plus minor force + shadow stone on a 55%+ build is obscenely good, even if you purge the DoT you're still taking a ton of extra damage. I'm not even a top teir player anymore and I can tell you this, don't think the top teir players aren't running these things.

Defilted · August 2016

I wish I could understand why my fellow yellows run up the red side and go back and forth between BRK and Arrius. I do not get it. I normally spend my time defending home keeps and attempt to stop blue from cutting off the main group. To bad we are normally so small in number we can cover all the keeps.

If someone figures out why yellow runs up to BRK then let all of us know.

Ron_Burgundy_79 · August 2016

Defilted wrote: »

I wish I could understand why my fellow yellows run up the red side and go back and forth between BRK and Arrius. I do not get it. I normally spend my time defending home keeps and attempt to stop blue from cutting off the main group. To bad we are normally so small in number we can cover all the keeps.

If someone figures out why yellow runs up to BRK then let all of us know.

AP

THEDKEXPERIENCE · August 2016

Sandman929 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

I'm still not sure what to make of Impen, I don't feel any more vulnerable without it outside of duels.

You're crazy. Running impen so drastically improves your survivability that it allows you to build for less overall defense/sustain and stack even more burst because when you're not getting crazy damage numbers from Crits you can easily outheal incoming damage on most classes. I can't remember the last time I took 8k damage from anything, typically my death recap is filled with 4-5k damage abilities, which, are much easier to deal with than the big heavy hits.

That's just it. When I'm not running impen, I still don't see huge damage numbers outside of ganking situations and stealthy bomb builds. It's almost like the rise of everyone running impen has resulted in nobody stacking crit. Whether I'm all impen'd or not, I just don't see huge crits regularly. Occasionally, sure.

Exactly this. I get hit like once a week with a 20+ K tick.

Yes, there are situations where it helps. No one is denying that, but you're still capping BONUS damage. Bonus damage that is limited at 50%, from a bonus that only happens on average 50% of the time, AND even with max Impen you'll only be blocking about 50% of that. Oh and let's not forget battle spirit.

If you're a monster who regularly hits for 40k in PVE then you'll have this happen.

40 times .5 (BS) = 20 K times 1.5 (crit) = 30 K - 5 K (Impen) = 25 K

That's the worst possible realistic scenario. Impen just saved you from 5K damage.

Now do that to an average player dealing 20k in PVE. Impen saves you about 2.5 K damage. That's a light attack.

Add in the times where people don't crit and you have a trait that is useless 50% of the time.

Ron_Burgundy_79 · August 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

I'm still not sure what to make of Impen, I don't feel any more vulnerable without it outside of duels.

You're crazy. Running impen so drastically improves your survivability that it allows you to build for less overall defense/sustain and stack even more burst because when you're not getting crazy damage numbers from Crits you can easily outheal incoming damage on most classes. I can't remember the last time I took 8k damage from anything, typically my death recap is filled with 4-5k damage abilities, which, are much easier to deal with than the big heavy hits.

That's just it. When I'm not running impen, I still don't see huge damage numbers outside of ganking situations and stealthy bomb builds. It's almost like the rise of everyone running impen has resulted in nobody stacking crit. Whether I'm all impen'd or not, I just don't see huge crits regularly. Occasionally, sure.

Exactly this. I get hit like once a week with a 20+ K tick.

Yes, there are situations where it helps. No one is denying that, but you're still capping BONUS damage. Bonus damage that is limited at 50%, from a bonus that only happens on average 50% of the time, AND even with max Impen you'll only be blocking about 50% of that. Oh and let's not forget battle spirit.

If you're a monster who regularly hits for 40k in PVE then you'll have this happen.

40 times .5 (BS) = 20 K times 1.5 (crit) = 30 K - 5 K (Impen) = 25 K

That's the worst possible realistic scenario. Impen just saved you from 5K damage.

Now do that to an average player dealing 20k in PVE. Impen saves you about 2.5 K damage. That's a light attack.

Add in the times where people don't crit and you have a trait that is useless 50% of the time.

Unless that person is running the shadow and trap beast. Then it's more like 1.8(crit). Impen is amazing for small group and solo play in PVP.

Karivaa · August 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually ordered my group of 9 at one point with "there's only 50 of them, nothing to fear, attack!"

This is a comical way to tell your group to push. Glad you got a lot of AP I guess?

Love,
A Scourge Yellow

Not so comical if the 50 are truly so weak.

Who knows? They probably were weak. That doesn't change the fact that "nothing to fear, attack" sounds like bad GoT fanfic dialogue.

Sounds like his group was having fun to me. So serious. Whatchu got against a little cheesy dialogue to lighten the mood? I certainly wouldn't lead into a pug smash with serious tactics and battle comms.

I'd imagine it's because @Stratforge knows the truth about @danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO

I've never seen DEECO wipe anything other than the 1v1's down in the arena district

DEECO: the Zerg of Argonian healers and sorc pet builds. Fear them!

Hahaha. We do have a lot of those. I'm an imperial though. And yes, we do like to ruin duels. Can't lie.

Honestly, the arena thing is mostly my doing. It's where I go when I'm bored. Sometimes I'll bring a few guildies. The main group is on a bit later than me most nights. They stay up top.

I am in Deeco and have never gone to the city arena with them.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · August 2016

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

I'm still not sure what to make of Impen, I don't feel any more vulnerable without it outside of duels.

You're crazy. Running impen so drastically improves your survivability that it allows you to build for less overall defense/sustain and stack even more burst because when you're not getting crazy damage numbers from Crits you can easily outheal incoming damage on most classes. I can't remember the last time I took 8k damage from anything, typically my death recap is filled with 4-5k damage abilities, which, are much easier to deal with than the big heavy hits.

That's just it. When I'm not running impen, I still don't see huge damage numbers outside of ganking situations and stealthy bomb builds. It's almost like the rise of everyone running impen has resulted in nobody stacking crit. Whether I'm all impen'd or not, I just don't see huge crits regularly. Occasionally, sure.

Exactly this. I get hit like once a week with a 20+ K tick.

Yes, there are situations where it helps. No one is denying that, but you're still capping BONUS damage. Bonus damage that is limited at 50%, from a bonus that only happens on average 50% of the time, AND even with max Impen you'll only be blocking about 50% of that. Oh and let's not forget battle spirit.

If you're a monster who regularly hits for 40k in PVE then you'll have this happen.

40 times .5 (BS) = 20 K times 1.5 (crit) = 30 K - 5 K (Impen) = 25 K

That's the worst possible realistic scenario. Impen just saved you from 5K damage.

Now do that to an average player dealing 20k in PVE. Impen saves you about 2.5 K damage. That's a light attack.

Add in the times where people don't crit and you have a trait that is useless 50% of the time.

Unless that person is running the shadow and trap beast. Then it's more like 1.8(crit). Impen is amazing for small group and solo play in PVP.

Credit due. Your response is different than just "wear Impen". Adding those abilities changes things for sure.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · August 2016

Karivaa wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually ordered my group of 9 at one point with "there's only 50 of them, nothing to fear, attack!"

This is a comical way to tell your group to push. Glad you got a lot of AP I guess?

Love,
A Scourge Yellow

Not so comical if the 50 are truly so weak.

Who knows? They probably were weak. That doesn't change the fact that "nothing to fear, attack" sounds like bad GoT fanfic dialogue.

Sounds like his group was having fun to me. So serious. Whatchu got against a little cheesy dialogue to lighten the mood? I certainly wouldn't lead into a pug smash with serious tactics and battle comms.

I'd imagine it's because @Stratforge knows the truth about @danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO

I've never seen DEECO wipe anything other than the 1v1's down in the arena district

DEECO: the Zerg of Argonian healers and sorc pet builds. Fear them!

Hahaha. We do have a lot of those. I'm an imperial though. And yes, we do like to ruin duels. Can't lie.

Honestly, the arena thing is mostly my doing. It's where I go when I'm bored. Sometimes I'll bring a few guildies. The main group is on a bit later than me most nights. They stay up top.

I am in Deeco and have never gone to the city arena with them.

I haven't lead a IC group in 2 weeks probably. I do it when lag is out of hand or I'm bored.

But yes, IC groups are not the norm.

gamerguy757 · August 2016

I'm a Yellow in NA Scourge Xbox ONE, and I completely agree. I was queued for 30minutes since the server was full. When I got in, Yellow wasn't doing anything except standing around. No one was taking keeps or anything. I'm fighting reds, blues, and my teammates were about as useful as a poopy-flavored lollipop.

zuto40 · August 2016

Karivaa wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Father_X_Zombie wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Stratforge wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I actually ordered my group of 9 at one point with "there's only 50 of them, nothing to fear, attack!"

This is a comical way to tell your group to push. Glad you got a lot of AP I guess?

Love,
A Scourge Yellow

Not so comical if the 50 are truly so weak.

Who knows? They probably were weak. That doesn't change the fact that "nothing to fear, attack" sounds like bad GoT fanfic dialogue.

Sounds like his group was having fun to me. So serious. Whatchu got against a little cheesy dialogue to lighten the mood? I certainly wouldn't lead into a pug smash with serious tactics and battle comms.

I'd imagine it's because @Stratforge knows the truth about @danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO

I've never seen DEECO wipe anything other than the 1v1's down in the arena district

DEECO: the Zerg of Argonian healers and sorc pet builds. Fear them!

Hahaha. We do have a lot of those. I'm an imperial though. And yes, we do like to ruin duels. Can't lie.

Honestly, the arena thing is mostly my doing. It's where I go when I'm bored. Sometimes I'll bring a few guildies. The main group is on a bit later than me most nights. They stay up top.

I am in Deeco and have never gone to the city arena with them.

First time I've seen you post here kari

Karivaa · August 2016

Lol @zuto40 yeah. I didn't have an account here for a long time.

Lexxypwns · August 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

I'm still not sure what to make of Impen, I don't feel any more vulnerable without it outside of duels.

You're crazy. Running impen so drastically improves your survivability that it allows you to build for less overall defense/sustain and stack even more burst because when you're not getting crazy damage numbers from Crits you can easily outheal incoming damage on most classes. I can't remember the last time I took 8k damage from anything, typically my death recap is filled with 4-5k damage abilities, which, are much easier to deal with than the big heavy hits.

That's just it. When I'm not running impen, I still don't see huge damage numbers outside of ganking situations and stealthy bomb builds. It's almost like the rise of everyone running impen has resulted in nobody stacking crit. Whether I'm all impen'd or not, I just don't see huge crits regularly. Occasionally, sure.

Exactly this. I get hit like once a week with a 20+ K tick.

Yes, there are situations where it helps. No one is denying that, but you're still capping BONUS damage. Bonus damage that is limited at 50%, from a bonus that only happens on average 50% of the time, AND even with max Impen you'll only be blocking about 50% of that. Oh and let's not forget battle spirit.

If you're a monster who regularly hits for 40k in PVE then you'll have this happen.

40 times .5 (BS) = 20 K times 1.5 (crit) = 30 K - 5 K (Impen) = 25 K

That's the worst possible realistic scenario. Impen just saved you from 5K damage.

Now do that to an average player dealing 20k in PVE. Impen saves you about 2.5 K damage. That's a light attack.

Add in the times where people don't crit and you have a trait that is useless 50% of the time.

Unless that person is running the shadow and trap beast. Then it's more like 1.8(crit). Impen is amazing for small group and solo play in PVP.

Credit due. Your response is different than just "wear Impen". Adding those abilities changes things for sure.

Also, Nightblades get a bonus to CHD, making it 1.9. I'd legit love to help you with your build, if you're willing to learn and get better.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · August 2016

Lexxypwns wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Sandman929 wrote: »

I'm still not sure what to make of Impen, I don't feel any more vulnerable without it outside of duels.

You're crazy. Running impen so drastically improves your survivability that it allows you to build for less overall defense/sustain and stack even more burst because when you're not getting crazy damage numbers from Crits you can easily outheal incoming damage on most classes. I can't remember the last time I took 8k damage from anything, typically my death recap is filled with 4-5k damage abilities, which, are much easier to deal with than the big heavy hits.

That's just it. When I'm not running impen, I still don't see huge damage numbers outside of ganking situations and stealthy bomb builds. It's almost like the rise of everyone running impen has resulted in nobody stacking crit. Whether I'm all impen'd or not, I just don't see huge crits regularly. Occasionally, sure.

Exactly this. I get hit like once a week with a 20+ K tick.

Yes, there are situations where it helps. No one is denying that, but you're still capping BONUS damage. Bonus damage that is limited at 50%, from a bonus that only happens on average 50% of the time, AND even with max Impen you'll only be blocking about 50% of that. Oh and let's not forget battle spirit.

If you're a monster who regularly hits for 40k in PVE then you'll have this happen.

40 times .5 (BS) = 20 K times 1.5 (crit) = 30 K - 5 K (Impen) = 25 K

That's the worst possible realistic scenario. Impen just saved you from 5K damage.

Now do that to an average player dealing 20k in PVE. Impen saves you about 2.5 K damage. That's a light attack.

Add in the times where people don't crit and you have a trait that is useless 50% of the time.

Unless that person is running the shadow and trap beast. Then it's more like 1.8(crit). Impen is amazing for small group and solo play in PVP.

Credit due. Your response is different than just "wear Impen". Adding those abilities changes things for sure.

Also, Nightblades get a bonus to CHD, making it 1.9. I'd legit love to help you with your build, if you're willing to learn and get better.

I did a race change last night and I'm at 44.6K magicka now. I honestly have no interest in playing anything other than my Templar, but if you can keep me above 40k magicka than I'm all ears. Please remember that I do not have my undaunteds unlocked or have any extra gold tempers to change things up.

Also, "get better"? C'mon man. I nuke things in PVP constantly already and don't die all that often. I have no idea why you think confirming makes you better, but hey, like I said. Lay it on me.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · August 2016

Correction to my post from yesterday. I'm at 44.3 magicka, not 44.6. Regardless I still hit an NPC for 55K last night. Can someone please fix my build so I hit the next one for 75K? How about 100K?

Karivaa · August 2016

I doubt I will be doing much pvp anymore and it's all I've ever loved in ESO. The way towns can be captured has meant EP can't even take Dragonclaw or Drakelowe anymore. It was amazing to see how well EP worked together to get emp for Drew. That is now gone. Maybe because he is not in first place anymore. Not sure. Last night was the first I was able to play the new DLC and it was disheartening. Not trying to whine, I am not a whiner.

There were literally 24 man groups guarding every capturable town and close to all of the keeps. When we tried to attack blues, yellows showed up.

Karivaa · August 2016

And why was Bakery there? Isn't he emp in another ad buff campaign?

Ron_Burgundy_79 · August 2016

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Correction to my post from yesterday. I'm at 44.3 magicka, not 44.6. Regardless I still hit an NPC for 55K last night. Can someone please fix my build so I hit the next one for 75K? How about 100K?

Damage isn't the issue people have with the build, it's the mitigation. I have a friend that one shots people with heavys from stealth as a magic nightblade. I'd post the videos, but I don't know how. For those of you who don't know me, I'm on Xbox.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · August 2016

Ron_Burgundy_79 wrote: »

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Correction to my post from yesterday. I'm at 44.3 magicka, not 44.6. Regardless I still hit an NPC for 55K last night. Can someone please fix my build so I hit the next one for 75K? How about 100K?

Damage isn't the issue people have with the build, it's the mitigation. I have a friend that one shots people with heavys from stealth as a magic nightblade. I'd post the videos, but I don't know how. For those of you who don't know me, I'm on Xbox.

No issue with you Ron. You're a very good player. I just get salty at people who want to "fix" anyone's build without ever playing with or against them, and those who don't understand that there is more than 1 way to approach Cyrodiil.