Ch4mpTW wrote: »

I have been saying it for the longest... ESO needs an auction house. But, because of greed and pettiness — people find every excuse in the book as to why an auction house would somehow be "bad" to the in-game economy. Lol.

Can I just say that I find it weird that we are in agreeance about something?

Everything the Developers and the supporters of the Guild Traders claimed the Trade Guilds would do away with, things that were "notorious" in Auction Houses, are being done today right this moment in game through the Trade Guilds.

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Wrong wrong wrong. With a central AH someone like me with 5-10 million could take a monopoly of any item, then bleed the little peple dry.

If they want that one item. You'd have to find something the little people want, and is cheap enough that they'd consider it but expensive enough to bleed them.

Gold tempers? Maybe. Does the little guy care enough about those?

And you could do the same thing now. It'd just take more time.

LegacyDM wrote: »

I just received a notice this past week that we shattered a transaction trading record. Great! However, a few days later the decision was made to up the weekly membership requirement to either 50k transaction from 25k or 15k in raffles from 7k. I believe The decision was thinly disguised behind the idea that to stay competitive and have enough bank reserves the guild needed to do this? Say what? Didn't we just shatter a transaction record?

Vendors in Rawl'kha are going for 10 million + at the moment and the price just keeps going up. Indeed, the price to hire one of these vendors has doubled or tripled over the last couple of months due to certain mechanics that have yet to be changed. Furthermore, auction taxes and the gold donated for raffle tickets do not always cover the whole cost to rehire the vendor again. Many of the guild leaders and officers of these guilds are putting hundreds of thousands or even millions of their own personal gold into hiring a vendor there each week. Also, some members donate quite a bit more than the minimum amount required even though they have hit their minimum sales for the week. All of these things combined with the cost of the weekly raffle prizes really makes me doubt that the motive for increasing weekly fees/sale amounts is to raise bank reserves.

LegacyDM wrote: »

Without a global AH the little guy seller cannot compete with these megamarts. I can't afford to belong to a megamart which means I'm stuck belonging to a guild in a zone that anyone hardly buys from. Let's be honest, there are really only three zones that dominate the buyer seller markets. Rawlinka, deshaan, and storm haven. With rawlinka on top. Now, if we had a global auction house that ties all the trading guilds together, than everyone has a fair shot at selling their goods and wares and no one is held hostage to the giant Megacorps with rediculous membership fees. The result is I'm stuck to spamming zone chat in rawlinka to get materials sold and I'm broke because the megacorp ran me out of business.

I'm sorry but I don't agree that having a global auction house is for the best. Yes, there are going to be downsides to every trading system. With a global AH you will be held hostage to every other person who decides to list their items lower than you and this will occur much more frequently than it does with the system we have now. You will also have a few people who completely dominate and manipulate the AH prices.

Free Market Capitolism baby! Gotta love it.

mtwiggz wrote: »

If you don't sell 50k worth of items in a week in one of the "mega" trade guilds then you probably don't belong there regardless. It's not as if they're making you pay to be in the guild. You don't have to donate anything.

Global auction houses are terrible. They drive prices down or way up. Every MMO I've ever played with a global auction house is either;

A.) Market monopoly by a small margin of players.
B.) Price fixing by a small margin of players.
C.) Ruined economy.
D.) All of the above.

Technically they ARE making you pay to be in the guild... if you don't sell 50K in a week then you HAVE TO pay 15K gold to remain a member. This sucks because if you take any time off, have a computer crash, etc... you log back on to find out you've been kicked from the guild for 'lack of sales'.

I'm in the same guild as the OP and when I received that 'change of guild requirements' when I logged on today I was shocked. I am a member of four Trade Guilds, including one in Grahtwood and one in Rawl Ka, and things sell 'faster' at Rawl Ka... that is the only difference. After having a computer crash and being offline for a week, to log on and find I had been kicked from said guild, I used the three other guilds and was selling things but not 'as' quickly... so I reapplied to the Rawl Ka guild earlier this week. Then today, big sticker shock. Sorry but I don't play this game JUST to sell items, I sell items that I come across while questing... but with the new requirements, it almost becomes a FORCED grind for items to sell if you want to remain a member OR pay the outrageous 15K gold each week... which, I don't know about anyone else, but I sell things in order to make gold so I can buy things... so I don't exactly have huge stashes of gold constantly lying around. Having to deal with these type of requirements adds more stress to a game that most people play for FUN... not 'work'.

IMO, if Guilds are paying so much for a trade location, maybe they should just STOP. Maybe all the guilds should start bidding less... because clearly, given a couple of weeks and any other guild that is willing to pay such a huge mark-up for a location will learn how expensive it is and they will drop out.