Revert the changes to expert hunter
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Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Just make the damage reduction from undead under half health apply to everything *except* fire.0 -
KenaPKK✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭So the only reasonable approach to keep something in check (in your example vampirism) is to offer the possibility to score instantkills on them with a cheapshot mechanic?
By that logic can i please get an ability that let´s me instakill stamina builds because in my opinion there are way to many of them running around in cyrodiil atm @BruhItsOver9000 - it´s a plague. I need expert stam exterminator10k.
Lol this.1 -
Kelces✭✭✭✭✭I understand the changes made as being the stamina equivalent of mage light, so it is more balanced than before in my opinion. Using the ability myself, I came to appreciate the changes made there, as I am now able to uncloak players instead of having a very short timed buff.
Champions of the fighters guild are awarded more damage to undead and daedra anyway, even if they have none of that tree's abilities slotted.
The real issue seems to me, that the silver shards have been altered aswell, where the actual disadvantage seems to be now. If anything, maybe adding a stun effect against undead again would even the playing field again. But I'm not so sure about that...You reveal yourself best in how you play.
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✭✭✭✭✭This is a total non-issue. Vampires are not dominating Cyrodiil. It is the opposite. Vampirism is popular to help overcome shortcomings of Magicka builds -- which are presently weak.
Cyrodiil has dozens of more practical issues that actually cause problems every day.
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✭✭✭✭I agree that they made the skill incredibly lame, but I really hated what it did previously - it was so toxic for the game. I'd rather it be a lame duck skill than a game-breaking one. They could maybe work it into a poor man's Relentless Focus, which could be really fun.
For the record, vampires do take a huge risk in PvP. Dawnbreaker and Prismatic Weapon will both push their s#1t in.0 -
BruhItsOver9000✭✭✭✭✭Burning_Talons wrote: »Oh can it. First lets nerf shuffle see how you like that.
I also want shuffle nerfed.WOOD ELF MASTER RACE.0 -
Rylana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Buff magelight to give stealth detection 100 percent uptime in a 50 meter radius
Thats how I view this thread.
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Rage_Killin✭✭✭Just because there is a lot of vampires in pvp now doesn't mean we nerf it. Geez what is with all these kids crying NERF NERF NERF.0 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭This is a total non-issue. Vampires are not dominating Cyrodiil. It is the opposite. Vampirism is popular to help overcome shortcomings of Magicka builds -- which are presently weak.
Cyrodiil has dozens of more practical issues that actually cause problems every day.
Are we playing in the same Cyrodiil? Because the one I'm in, just about every other person is a vampire right now. But.. They aren't dominating or anything? The only non-vampires I see anymore are werewolves.Rage_Killin wrote: »Just because there is a lot of vampires in pvp now doesn't mean we nerf it. Geez what is with all these kids crying NERF NERF NERF.
It's nearly everyone. Because there is NO downside to it. When everyone has to slot an ability to survive or perform better, it means there's a problem with it.Buff magelight to give stealth detection 100 percent uptime in a 50 meter radius
Thats how I view this thread.
Of course. Let's argue something ridiculous to get us all to forget about it. How about we introduce a REAL penalty to being a vampire? Something that makes sense?
Like: The undead damage reduction bonus doesn't apply to fire or dawnbreaker. Because right now it negates both bonuses while under half health.
Problem fixed. The vamps have a counter, and there's a real reason NOT to be one other than the ugly monster look.
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Sugaroverdose✭✭✭✭✭
i want to oneshot vaaaaampsThis is a total non-issue. Vampires are not dominating Cyrodiil. It is the opposite. Vampirism is popular to help overcome shortcomings of Magicka builds -- which are presently weak.
Cyrodiil has dozens of more practical issues that actually cause problems every day.
Are we playing in the same Cyrodiil? Because the one I'm in, just about every other person is a vampire right now. But.. They aren't dominating or anything? The only non-vampires I see anymore are werewolves.Rage_Killin wrote: »Just because there is a lot of vampires in pvp now doesn't mean we nerf it. Geez what is with all these kids crying NERF NERF NERF.
It's nearly everyone. Because there is NO downside to it. When everyone has to slot an ability to survive or perform better, it means there's a problem with it.Buff magelight to give stealth detection 100 percent uptime in a 50 meter radius
Thats how I view this thread.
Of course. Let's argue something ridiculous to get us all to forget about it. How about we introduce a REAL penalty to being a vampire? Something that makes sense?
Like: The undead damage reduction bonus doesn't apply to fire or dawnbreaker. Because right now it negates both bonuses while under half health.
Problem fixed. The vamps have a counter, and there's a real reason NOT to be one other than the ugly monster look.
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Astanphaeus✭✭✭✭✭Sugaroverdose wrote: »
i want to oneshot vaaaaampsThis is a total non-issue. Vampires are not dominating Cyrodiil. It is the opposite. Vampirism is popular to help overcome shortcomings of Magicka builds -- which are presently weak.
Cyrodiil has dozens of more practical issues that actually cause problems every day.
Are we playing in the same Cyrodiil? Because the one I'm in, just about every other person is a vampire right now. But.. They aren't dominating or anything? The only non-vampires I see anymore are werewolves.Rage_Killin wrote: »Just because there is a lot of vampires in pvp now doesn't mean we nerf it. Geez what is with all these kids crying NERF NERF NERF.
It's nearly everyone. Because there is NO downside to it. When everyone has to slot an ability to survive or perform better, it means there's a problem with it.Buff magelight to give stealth detection 100 percent uptime in a 50 meter radius
Thats how I view this thread.
Of course. Let's argue something ridiculous to get us all to forget about it. How about we introduce a REAL penalty to being a vampire? Something that makes sense?
Like: The undead damage reduction bonus doesn't apply to fire or dawnbreaker. Because right now it negates both bonuses while under half health.
Problem fixed. The vamps have a counter, and there's a real reason NOT to be one other than the ugly monster look.
I mean, what can you expect from the guy who also started a thread saying that ganking takes skill.3 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Astanphaeus wrote: »Sugaroverdose wrote: »
i want to oneshot vaaaaampsThis is a total non-issue. Vampires are not dominating Cyrodiil. It is the opposite. Vampirism is popular to help overcome shortcomings of Magicka builds -- which are presently weak.
Cyrodiil has dozens of more practical issues that actually cause problems every day.
Are we playing in the same Cyrodiil? Because the one I'm in, just about every other person is a vampire right now. But.. They aren't dominating or anything? The only non-vampires I see anymore are werewolves.Rage_Killin wrote: »Just because there is a lot of vampires in pvp now doesn't mean we nerf it. Geez what is with all these kids crying NERF NERF NERF.
It's nearly everyone. Because there is NO downside to it. When everyone has to slot an ability to survive or perform better, it means there's a problem with it.Buff magelight to give stealth detection 100 percent uptime in a 50 meter radius
Thats how I view this thread.
Of course. Let's argue something ridiculous to get us all to forget about it. How about we introduce a REAL penalty to being a vampire? Something that makes sense?
Like: The undead damage reduction bonus doesn't apply to fire or dawnbreaker. Because right now it negates both bonuses while under half health.
Problem fixed. The vamps have a counter, and there's a real reason NOT to be one other than the ugly monster look.
I mean, what can you expect from the guy who also started a thread saying that ganking takes skill.
Ouch! +1 awesome.
And no. For the record. Vamps shouldn't be one shot, but what is the downside to being one? Someone tell me.
Edited by Minalan on August 11, 2016 8:48PM0 -
Astanphaeus✭✭✭✭✭Astanphaeus wrote: »Sugaroverdose wrote: »
i want to oneshot vaaaaampsThis is a total non-issue. Vampires are not dominating Cyrodiil. It is the opposite. Vampirism is popular to help overcome shortcomings of Magicka builds -- which are presently weak.
Cyrodiil has dozens of more practical issues that actually cause problems every day.
Are we playing in the same Cyrodiil? Because the one I'm in, just about every other person is a vampire right now. But.. They aren't dominating or anything? The only non-vampires I see anymore are werewolves.Rage_Killin wrote: »Just because there is a lot of vampires in pvp now doesn't mean we nerf it. Geez what is with all these kids crying NERF NERF NERF.
It's nearly everyone. Because there is NO downside to it. When everyone has to slot an ability to survive or perform better, it means there's a problem with it.Buff magelight to give stealth detection 100 percent uptime in a 50 meter radius
Thats how I view this thread.
Of course. Let's argue something ridiculous to get us all to forget about it. How about we introduce a REAL penalty to being a vampire? Something that makes sense?
Like: The undead damage reduction bonus doesn't apply to fire or dawnbreaker. Because right now it negates both bonuses while under half health.
Problem fixed. The vamps have a counter, and there's a real reason NOT to be one other than the ugly monster look.
I mean, what can you expect from the guy who also started a thread saying that ganking takes skill.
That... Wasn't me. I think it takes more skill to avoid a gank than pull one off. I know it's really really hard for you to read, but if you keep trying you can improve!
And no. Vamps shouldn't be one shot, but what is the downside to being one? You tell me.
Sorry, I mixed you with the person who started this thread.
But the downside is the increased fire damage (particularly from siege) and the increased damage from dawnbreaker, an ult that is used by basically every stam user and is so cheap it is practically spammable.0 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Astanphaeus wrote: »Astanphaeus wrote: »Sugaroverdose wrote: »
i want to oneshot vaaaaampsThis is a total non-issue. Vampires are not dominating Cyrodiil. It is the opposite. Vampirism is popular to help overcome shortcomings of Magicka builds -- which are presently weak.
Cyrodiil has dozens of more practical issues that actually cause problems every day.
Are we playing in the same Cyrodiil? Because the one I'm in, just about every other person is a vampire right now. But.. They aren't dominating or anything? The only non-vampires I see anymore are werewolves.Rage_Killin wrote: »Just because there is a lot of vampires in pvp now doesn't mean we nerf it. Geez what is with all these kids crying NERF NERF NERF.
It's nearly everyone. Because there is NO downside to it. When everyone has to slot an ability to survive or perform better, it means there's a problem with it.Buff magelight to give stealth detection 100 percent uptime in a 50 meter radius
Thats how I view this thread.
Of course. Let's argue something ridiculous to get us all to forget about it. How about we introduce a REAL penalty to being a vampire? Something that makes sense?
Like: The undead damage reduction bonus doesn't apply to fire or dawnbreaker. Because right now it negates both bonuses while under half health.
Problem fixed. The vamps have a counter, and there's a real reason NOT to be one other than the ugly monster look.
I mean, what can you expect from the guy who also started a thread saying that ganking takes skill.
That... Wasn't me. I think it takes more skill to avoid a gank than pull one off. I know it's really really hard for you to read, but if you keep trying you can improve!
And no. Vamps shouldn't be one shot, but what is the downside to being one? You tell me.
Sorry, I mixed you with the person who started this thread.
But the downside is the increased fire damage (particularly from siege) and the increased damage from dawnbreaker, an ult that is used by basically every stam user and is so cheap it is practically spammable.
My point: The undead passive helps more reduces more extra damage than both of those do. It probably shouldn't.
But hey, I just want to one shot everyone. Hur durr0 -
Astanphaeus✭✭✭✭✭Astanphaeus wrote: »Astanphaeus wrote: »Sugaroverdose wrote: »
i want to oneshot vaaaaampsThis is a total non-issue. Vampires are not dominating Cyrodiil. It is the opposite. Vampirism is popular to help overcome shortcomings of Magicka builds -- which are presently weak.
Cyrodiil has dozens of more practical issues that actually cause problems every day.
Are we playing in the same Cyrodiil? Because the one I'm in, just about every other person is a vampire right now. But.. They aren't dominating or anything? The only non-vampires I see anymore are werewolves.Rage_Killin wrote: »Just because there is a lot of vampires in pvp now doesn't mean we nerf it. Geez what is with all these kids crying NERF NERF NERF.
It's nearly everyone. Because there is NO downside to it. When everyone has to slot an ability to survive or perform better, it means there's a problem with it.Buff magelight to give stealth detection 100 percent uptime in a 50 meter radius
Thats how I view this thread.
Of course. Let's argue something ridiculous to get us all to forget about it. How about we introduce a REAL penalty to being a vampire? Something that makes sense?
Like: The undead damage reduction bonus doesn't apply to fire or dawnbreaker. Because right now it negates both bonuses while under half health.
Problem fixed. The vamps have a counter, and there's a real reason NOT to be one other than the ugly monster look.
I mean, what can you expect from the guy who also started a thread saying that ganking takes skill.
That... Wasn't me. I think it takes more skill to avoid a gank than pull one off. I know it's really really hard for you to read, but if you keep trying you can improve!
And no. Vamps shouldn't be one shot, but what is the downside to being one? You tell me.
Sorry, I mixed you with the person who started this thread.
But the downside is the increased fire damage (particularly from siege) and the increased damage from dawnbreaker, an ult that is used by basically every stam user and is so cheap it is practically spammable.
My point: The undead passive helps more reduces more extra damage than both of those do. It probably shouldn't.
But hey, I just want to one shot everyone. Hur durr
Undeath does up to 33%, at low health, so it is only canceling out the fire damage at very low health, and Dawnbreaker does 60% additional damage, so you are just flat out wrong on that one.1 -
Minalan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Astanphaeus wrote: »Astanphaeus wrote: »Astanphaeus wrote: »Sugaroverdose wrote: »
i want to oneshot vaaaaampsThis is a total non-issue. Vampires are not dominating Cyrodiil. It is the opposite. Vampirism is popular to help overcome shortcomings of Magicka builds -- which are presently weak.
Cyrodiil has dozens of more practical issues that actually cause problems every day.
Are we playing in the same Cyrodiil? Because the one I'm in, just about every other person is a vampire right now. But.. They aren't dominating or anything? The only non-vampires I see anymore are werewolves.Rage_Killin wrote: »Just because there is a lot of vampires in pvp now doesn't mean we nerf it. Geez what is with all these kids crying NERF NERF NERF.
It's nearly everyone. Because there is NO downside to it. When everyone has to slot an ability to survive or perform better, it means there's a problem with it.Buff magelight to give stealth detection 100 percent uptime in a 50 meter radius
Thats how I view this thread.
Of course. Let's argue something ridiculous to get us all to forget about it. How about we introduce a REAL penalty to being a vampire? Something that makes sense?
Like: The undead damage reduction bonus doesn't apply to fire or dawnbreaker. Because right now it negates both bonuses while under half health.
Problem fixed. The vamps have a counter, and there's a real reason NOT to be one other than the ugly monster look.
I mean, what can you expect from the guy who also started a thread saying that ganking takes skill.
That... Wasn't me. I think it takes more skill to avoid a gank than pull one off. I know it's really really hard for you to read, but if you keep trying you can improve!
And no. Vamps shouldn't be one shot, but what is the downside to being one? You tell me.
Sorry, I mixed you with the person who started this thread.
But the downside is the increased fire damage (particularly from siege) and the increased damage from dawnbreaker, an ult that is used by basically every stam user and is so cheap it is practically spammable.
My point: The undead passive helps more reduces more extra damage than both of those do. It probably shouldn't.
But hey, I just want to one shot everyone. Hur durr
Undeath does up to 33%, at low health, so it is only canceling out the fire damage at very low health, and Dawnbreaker does 60% additional damage, so you are just flat out wrong on that one.
My bad, I thought DB was only 30%!
Holy crap, that's devastating.0 -
Vythri✭✭✭✭Can't we just give Expert Hunter the Major Brutality buff instead of giving it's damage back?1 -
Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Astanphaeus wrote: »Sugaroverdose wrote: »
i want to oneshot vaaaaampsThis is a total non-issue. Vampires are not dominating Cyrodiil. It is the opposite. Vampirism is popular to help overcome shortcomings of Magicka builds -- which are presently weak.
Cyrodiil has dozens of more practical issues that actually cause problems every day.
Are we playing in the same Cyrodiil? Because the one I'm in, just about every other person is a vampire right now. But.. They aren't dominating or anything? The only non-vampires I see anymore are werewolves.Rage_Killin wrote: »Just because there is a lot of vampires in pvp now doesn't mean we nerf it. Geez what is with all these kids crying NERF NERF NERF.
It's nearly everyone. Because there is NO downside to it. When everyone has to slot an ability to survive or perform better, it means there's a problem with it.Buff magelight to give stealth detection 100 percent uptime in a 50 meter radius
Thats how I view this thread.
Of course. Let's argue something ridiculous to get us all to forget about it. How about we introduce a REAL penalty to being a vampire? Something that makes sense?
Like: The undead damage reduction bonus doesn't apply to fire or dawnbreaker. Because right now it negates both bonuses while under half health.
Problem fixed. The vamps have a counter, and there's a real reason NOT to be one other than the ugly monster look.
I mean, what can you expect from the guy who also started a thread saying that ganking takes skill.
Ouch! +1 awesome.
And no. For the record. Vamps shouldn't be one shot, but what is the downside to being one? Someone tell me.
+25% flame damage (most magicka builds are using flame damage), 200 health regen, and extra damage from dawnbreaker (can't remember the exact %) in exchange for up to 30% damage mitigation at low hp, 10% stamina/magicka regen, increased sneak speed, bats and mist form which is the only way for a magicka build to have any sort of mobility with all the snares and roots that exist right now. There are a lot of benefits to being a vampire sure but they are hardly OP when you look at what you sacrifice to get them, the dawnbreaker damage is brutal.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭All night long I get Dawnbreaker Omlete in face . Please no more instant Vampire killing skills .0 -
vamp_emily✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No downside? Look at my face craters ( blows you a slobbery kiss ), and 75% health recovery reduction is no joke.
Edited by vamp_emily on August 12, 2016 6:00PM
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Astanphaeus✭✭✭✭✭vamp_emily wrote: »No downside? Look at my face craters ( blows you a slobbery kiss ), and 75% health recovery reduction is no joke.
Yeah, the hideousness is almost enough of a deterrent in and of itself.1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭vamp_emily wrote: »No downside? Look at my face craters ( blows you a slobbery kiss ), and 75% health recovery reduction is no joke.
Here I make you pretty again
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BruhItsOver9000✭✭✭✭✭vamp_emily wrote: »No downside? Look at my face craters ( blows you a slobbery kiss ), and 75% health recovery reduction is no joke.
Holy [snip], wtf, i was eating.
Edited by ZOS_KatP on May 21, 2018 7:32PMWOOD ELF MASTER RACE.0
