Got killed by this the other day on my rather tanky mDK. I can attest to the burst lol. I used the wrong potion and bam! Dead. Good build.

Typhoios wrote: »

Got killed by this the other day on my rather tanky mDK. I can attest to the burst lol. I used the wrong potion and bam! Dead. Good build.

haha sorry!

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KenaPKK wrote: »

Why not put Dampen on your dw bar with the Willpower magicka and Siphon Attacks on the resto bar? I'm dubious of that and other parts of the bar setup and of general open world performance, but yes, your Assassin's Will will hurt. I look forward to seeing gameplay videos.

Easeof gameplay, in 1vX having heals across bars makes defence very awkward

I find it convenient one heal/shield on a destro/resto or resto/resto setup at each bar, but having duals on the backbar and since it's an assasins will build I feel I can find the sense on why not put them on the dual bar. There is just not anything worth cancelling to go to the backbar except some buffs, in terms of what you could light atack + spell since you have duals there...

Light attacks on a setup like this are very important, actually mandatory..I'd rather sneak a one between casting shields or heals and proc the assasins will more often than having to go to duals to cast a shield without adding another light attack to the amount needed.

I like the build, I'm a fan of assasins will on my magblade too. I'd like to see the results you have vs decent people, I know potatos just explode if you manage to land it.

MaximillianDiE wrote: »

Wow - that's insane stats. What's your prox det tooltip if you slot it?

proxy sucks

Blobsky wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Why not put Dampen on your dw bar with the Willpower magicka and Siphon Attacks on the resto bar? I'm dubious of that and other parts of the bar setup and of general open world performance, but yes, your Assassin's Will will hurt. I look forward to seeing gameplay videos.

Easeof gameplay, in 1vX having heals across bars makes defence very awkward

I find having a shield/heal on each bar to be convenient when 1vXing on my max magicka setup. Weaving Dampens between attacks keeps both offense and defense up simultaneously, which mageblade excels at. Play style difference perhaps. If your Dampens are not large enough to stave off burst alone, though, having it with Healing Ward would be best. I'm very curious to see how this setup plays out compared to a comparable destro resto setup.

Chori sums it up perfectly

So you play as a resto main bar and only use dw to fire assassin's wills? I still don't see how that is more efficient than a destro resto setup, but hey, you do you. I look forward to the videos.

KenaPKK wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Why not put Dampen on your dw bar with the Willpower magicka and Siphon Attacks on the resto bar? I'm dubious of that and other parts of the bar setup and of general open world performance, but yes, your Assassin's Will will hurt. I look forward to seeing gameplay videos.

Easeof gameplay, in 1vX having heals across bars makes defence very awkward

I find having a shield/heal on each bar to be convenient when 1vXing on my max magicka setup. Weaving Dampens between attacks keeps both offense and defense up simultaneously, which mageblade excels at. Play style difference perhaps. If your Dampens are not large enough to stave off burst alone, though, having it with Healing Ward would be best. I'm very curious to see how this setup plays out compared to a comparable destro resto setup.

Chori sums it up perfectly

So you play as a resto main bar and only use dw to fire assassin's wills? I still don't see how that is more efficient than a destro resto setup, but hey, you do you. I look forward to the videos.

You can't run 5 necrop, 5 alchemist and 3 willpower unless you have duel wield. He would loose 189 spell power from willpower if he went destro on top of the loss from not have duel swords.

Interesting build. Looks like your dual weild bar is your buff bar instead of your resto. I don't think I've ever seen that before. I'm guessing the only reason you have the dual weild instead of a destro is because you want the 5, 5, 3, sets, otherwise I'd think destro would be better for weaving to proc assassins will? I'd really like to see this build in action, can't wait for the videos

KenaPKK wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Why not put Dampen on your dw bar with the Willpower magicka and Siphon Attacks on the resto bar? I'm dubious of that and other parts of the bar setup and of general open world performance, but yes, your Assassin's Will will hurt. I look forward to seeing gameplay videos.

Easeof gameplay, in 1vX having heals across bars makes defence very awkward

I find having a shield/heal on each bar to be convenient when 1vXing on my max magicka setup. Weaving Dampens between attacks keeps both offense and defense up simultaneously, which mageblade excels at. Play style difference perhaps. If your Dampens are not large enough to stave off burst alone, though, having it with Healing Ward would be best. I'm very curious to see how this setup plays out compared to a comparable destro resto setup.

Chori sums it up perfectly

So you play as a resto main bar and only use dw to fire assassin's wills? I still don't see how that is more efficient than a destro resto setup, but hey, you do you. I look forward to the videos.

You can't run 5 necrop, 5 alchemist and 3 willpower unless you have duel wield. He would loose 189 spell power from willpower if he went destro on top of the loss from not have duel swords.

He would gain destro weaves. It's a lot of additional sustained damage and comparable burst if you land a heavy, and the burst is still good without the heavy attack. I've hit 25k+ assassin's wills with a destro setup, and Necropotence would increase that further.

It isn't possible to hit 25k assassin's will on a player with destro currently in this patch, only dw has enough spell damage/magicka currently

With all the dodge rolling and shuffling out there, how do you manage to get the 4 light attacks and then land the assassin's will proc? They are great when they hit but don't you feel like you miss more than you hit?

ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »

With all the dodge rolling and shuffling out there, how do you manage to get the 4 light attacks and then land the assassin's will proc? They are great when they hit but don't you feel like you miss more than you hit?

Based on what I've seen, he usually CCs his opponent before casting assassin's will. I noticed he uses two combos in particular. He'll drop a meteor, fear and then immediately cast assassin's will. Or he'll combine soul tether with assassin's will.

ScruffyWhiskers wrote: »

With all the dodge rolling and shuffling out there, how do you manage to get the 4 light attacks and then land the assassin's will proc? They are great when they hit but don't you feel like you miss more than you hit?

use medium attacks, always hits

Blobsky wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Why not put Dampen on your dw bar with the Willpower magicka and Siphon Attacks on the resto bar? I'm dubious of that and other parts of the bar setup and of general open world performance, but yes, your Assassin's Will will hurt. I look forward to seeing gameplay videos.

Easeof gameplay, in 1vX having heals across bars makes defence very awkward

I find having a shield/heal on each bar to be convenient when 1vXing on my max magicka setup. Weaving Dampens between attacks keeps both offense and defense up simultaneously, which mageblade excels at. Play style difference perhaps. If your Dampens are not large enough to stave off burst alone, though, having it with Healing Ward would be best. I'm very curious to see how this setup plays out compared to a comparable destro resto setup.

Chori sums it up perfectly

So you play as a resto main bar and only use dw to fire assassin's wills? I still don't see how that is more efficient than a destro resto setup, but hey, you do you. I look forward to the videos.

You can't run 5 necrop, 5 alchemist and 3 willpower unless you have duel wield. He would loose 189 spell power from willpower if he went destro on top of the loss from not have duel swords.

He would gain destro weaves. It's a lot of additional sustained damage and comparable burst if you land a heavy, and the burst is still good without the heavy attack. I've hit 25k+ assassin's wills with a destro setup, and Necropotence would increase that further.

It isn't possible to hit 25k assassin's will on a player with destro currently in this patch, only dw has enough spell damage/magicka currently

My max magicka build has slightly over 61k max magicka on its destro bar, and another of my builds has about 44k max magicka and 4450 spell damage, which would rise if I subbed in alchemist. A dedicated damage build can definitely hit over 25k assassin's wills on improperly geared opponents, like those featured in 1vX videos. Careful with your assumptions.

PrinceFabious wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Blobsky wrote: »

KenaPKK wrote: »

Why not put Dampen on your dw bar with the Willpower magicka and Siphon Attacks on the resto bar? I'm dubious of that and other parts of the bar setup and of general open world performance, but yes, your Assassin's Will will hurt. I look forward to seeing gameplay videos.

Easeof gameplay, in 1vX having heals across bars makes defence very awkward

I find having a shield/heal on each bar to be convenient when 1vXing on my max magicka setup. Weaving Dampens between attacks keeps both offense and defense up simultaneously, which mageblade excels at. Play style difference perhaps. If your Dampens are not large enough to stave off burst alone, though, having it with Healing Ward would be best. I'm very curious to see how this setup plays out compared to a comparable destro resto setup.

Chori sums it up perfectly

So you play as a resto main bar and only use dw to fire assassin's wills? I still don't see how that is more efficient than a destro resto setup, but hey, you do you. I look forward to the videos.

You can't run 5 necrop, 5 alchemist and 3 willpower unless you have duel wield. He would loose 189 spell power from willpower if he went destro on top of the loss from not have duel swords.

He would gain destro weaves. It's a lot of additional sustained damage and comparable burst if you land a heavy, and the burst is still good without the heavy attack. I've hit 25k+ assassin's wills with a destro setup, and Necropotence would increase that further.

It isn't possible to hit 25k assassin's will on a player with destro currently in this patch, only dw has enough spell damage/magicka currently

My max magicka build has slightly over 61k max magicka on its destro bar, and another of my builds has about 44k max magicka and 4450 spell damage, which would rise if I subbed in alchemist. A dedicated damage build can definitely hit over 25k assassin's wills on improperly geared opponents, like those featured in 1vX videos. Careful with your assumptions.

Can you make a vid on how to get over 61k max magicka on a NB?

I prefer not to publicize refined builds, but here are my open world stats. All buffs are visible -- no warhorn or green food or other gimmicks are used. I'd be glad to help you improve your mageblade via pms though.



I use Siphon Attacks, a Maelstrom resto, and the occasional heavy attack for sustain. I've always run with next to no regen, so it's comfortable. I use dots and high burst for damage, and over 16.6k Dampen shields for defense in place of impen and hots. Utility and buff spells are on the back bar.

To give you a benchmark to compare its damage output to a spell damage setup, here is my Swallow Soul tooltip. I can push it over 12k with a less practical bar setup, but I don't like doing that open world.



Apologies for the screenshots in your thread @Blobsky. I do anticipate your play style videos. I've never seen nor thought to use a dw buff bar for burst executes before.