I made a mistake...

Rastoide · August 2016

.. after creating my first character: I CLEARED, the first 2 maps. Every skyshard, every single quest in both, newbie map and in Glenumbra.
Now i'm 8 levels ahead of the third map. And doing any quest feels too damn easy, and a waste of time. Now every item i get, either as drop, or reward, its useless to me.

I'm sad, because i loved getting immersed in every quest.
But now i hardly want to play. I barely login and do something.
I see a WHOLE map waiting for me, but it just all crappy lowlvled things..

Whats the point of doing EPIC quests EFORTLESS with MEANINGLESS rewards :'(

Should i just SKIP THE WHOLE map?

Oh man..

wayfarerx · August 2016

Well in a few months everything everywhere will scale you to the content so you can always come back to it then.

Khairiah · August 2016

You can just get someone to travel you to a higher lvl area. Its easy to get over lvled in areas. Tho you would still have to return to collect skyshards, lorebooks and delves later on if you want.

Lysette · August 2016

Basically yes, skip it and do it later when One Tamriel will be live and you will be battle-level-scaled like in a DLC area - then you can do the quests which are now too easy for you. Later those enemies will all be lvl 50 CP160 and you are scaled up to about CP150. If you have access to a DLC, go there and try it out, that is about how it will be everywhere in future.

If you are 8 levels ahead you won't get XP from killing enemies anymore, which are more than 5 levels below your level.

Ah, I should mention one problem - in such a battle-leveled zone you have no hint how strong an enemy is, they all show lvl 50 CP160, but there is a difference in their strength, so you will have to find out yourself, what is a strong enemy and what is a rather harmless one.

tryia3b14a_ESO · August 2016

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I made the mistake of spending a few weeks in Cyrodiil and then when I came out, the zone I had left off in was all low level and didn't offer exp anymore. I wasn't really sure where to pick back up, so I just leveled off DLC stuff instead.

I'm looking forward to going back and finishing up the stories once One Tamriel comes out!

Rastoide · August 2016

Facepalm!

Ok. This is just my luck. I should of bought the game "two months from now".

I'll manage / do something untill this "one tamriel" comes out. I guess.

Where is this info btw?

Lysette wrote: »

Basically yes, skip it and do it later when One Tamriel will be live and you will be battle-level-scaled like in a DLC area - then you can do the quests which are now too easy for you. Later those enemies will all be lvl 50 CP160 and you are scaled up to about CP150. If you have access to a DLC, go there and try it out, that is about how it will be everywhere in future.

If you are 8 levels ahead you won't get XP from killing enemies anymore, which are more than 5 levels below your level.

Ah, I should mention one problem - in such a battle-leveled zone you have no hint how strong an enemy is, they all show lvl 50 CP160, but there is a difference in their strength, so you will have to find out yourself, what is a strong enemy and what is a rather harmless one.

And 1 question on this: i'm guessing you mean this scaling will take place IF i outlvl a zone? or anyhow, anywhere, everywhere, and allways? From lvl1 forward, everything will be scaled? I'm kinda confused. What an odd way to fix things

Minalan · August 2016

Go to BWB and PVP to level :-D

Players are more fun than mobs...

Wolfshead · August 2016

Rastoide wrote: »

.. after creating my first character: I CLEARED, the first 2 maps. Every skyshard, every single quest in both, newbie map and in Glenumbra.
Now i'm 8 levels ahead of the third map. And doing any quest feels too damn easy, and a waste of time. Now every item i get, either as drop, or reward, its useless to me.

I'm sad, because i loved getting immersed in every quest.
But now i hardly want to play. I barely login and do something.
I see a WHOLE map waiting for me, but it just all crappy lowlvled things..
Whats the point of doing EPIC quests EFORTLESS with MEANINGLESS rewards :'(

Should i just SKIP THE WHOLE map?

Oh man..

Well the gear you get i use to research traits with or sell them to vendor so i get money for basically best gear is other you buy from vendor or craft yourself

starkerealm · August 2016

Rastoide wrote: »

Facepalm!

Ok. This is just my luck. I should of bought the game "two months from now".

I'll manage / do something untill this "one tamriel" comes out. I guess.

Where is this info btw?

It's been announced. The info is spread between Quakecon, ESO Live, I think E3, and a couple other sources.

Rastoide wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

Basically yes, skip it and do it later when One Tamriel will be live and you will be battle-level-scaled like in a DLC area - then you can do the quests which are now too easy for you. Later those enemies will all be lvl 50 CP160 and you are scaled up to about CP150. If you have access to a DLC, go there and try it out, that is about how it will be everywhere in future.

If you are 8 levels ahead you won't get XP from killing enemies anymore, which are more than 5 levels below your level.

Ah, I should mention one problem - in such a battle-leveled zone you have no hint how strong an enemy is, they all show lvl 50 CP160, but there is a difference in their strength, so you will have to find out yourself, what is a strong enemy and what is a rather harmless one.

And 1 question on this: i'm guessing you mean this scaling will take place IF i outlvl a zone? or anyhow, anywhere, everywhere, and allways? From lvl1 forward, everything will be scaled? I'm kinda confused. What an odd way to fix things

It's not a fix for this, not really.

The idea behind Tam1 is that EVERYTHING in the game will scale to players regardless of their level. This allows you to team up with a much higher level player, and run content together. It means if you really hate Stormhaven and Rivenspire (like my significant other does,) you can chuck it, go straight to the Alik'r, or even jump over to someplace like Auridon or Stonefalls.

Right now, picking your alliance controls which players you can see. Everyone can eventually get to every zone, but only their faction's version of it. So, if I take my Pact NB to Glenumbra, you can't see her. She's not there. But, if I take my Covenant Sorc to Glenumbra... she'll be right there, and you can see her.

Tam1 is supposed to change it so that all those zones are shared by all three factions. (Right now, the only place this is possible is in Cyrodiil and the IC.) This means if you're in wrothgar, you can team up with players from any alliance. If you're having trouble in Rivenspire, a dominion player could help you out.

The intended design, right now, is that you'll play through your alliance's five zones, then after you finish the sixth zone, and the main quest, you get deposited in another alliance. (For Covenant, you get dumped in Auridon), and can then explore that Alliance's PvE content. It's scaled up to Vet, and so the enemies are much more difficult. But, it's the same basic content.

Right now, DLC zones are designed to be playable at any level. You can hit The Gold Coast or Wrothgar at level 3 or CR531 and still have content that's level appropriate. The goal is to do the same thing for the entire game. After Tam1 hits, we probably won't even see enemy levels anymore. Just, oh, there's a guy that needs murdering, and you can tell from the health bar design how hard it will be to deal with.

In the meantime, I would recommend focusing on quests that interest you, and getting through the main story. You can always go back and do earlier quests later (and after Tam1 drops, you won't even be penalized for it). Otherwise, if you're more than 5 levels above an enemy, you're not actually going to get experience or drops from killing them. So, if you do keep running quests you're overleveled for, you'll actually be getting less XP than intended, and the game will gradually catch up... kinda.

Vaoh · August 2016

When One Tamriel launches, your problem will be 100% solved

It's definitely unfortunate, but I recommend traveling to higher level areas and skipping the Zones you've outleveled for now.

Lysette · August 2016

Rastoide wrote: »

Facepalm!

Ok. This is just my luck. I should of bought the game "two months from now".

I'll manage / do something untill this "one tamriel" comes out. I guess.

Where is this info btw?

Lysette wrote: »

Basically yes, skip it and do it later when One Tamriel will be live and you will be battle-level-scaled like in a DLC area - then you can do the quests which are now too easy for you. Later those enemies will all be lvl 50 CP160 and you are scaled up to about CP150. If you have access to a DLC, go there and try it out, that is about how it will be everywhere in future.

If you are 8 levels ahead you won't get XP from killing enemies anymore, which are more than 5 levels below your level.

Ah, I should mention one problem - in such a battle-leveled zone you have no hint how strong an enemy is, they all show lvl 50 CP160, but there is a difference in their strength, so you will have to find out yourself, what is a strong enemy and what is a rather harmless one.

And 1 question on this: i'm guessing you mean this scaling will take place IF i outlvl a zone? or anyhow, anywhere, everywhere, and allways? From lvl1 forward, everything will be scaled? I'm kinda confused. What an odd way to fix things

One Tamriel is an overhaul of the level-gated system into a more open world type game - all zones (maybe beside the starter islands) will be battle-level scaled like DLC zones are - this is what ZOS said, it "will basically work like in DLCs zones now". And in DLC zones enemies are lvl 50 CP160 and you are scaled to have similar stats to a CP150 character. I got the impression that very low level characters are slightly better scaled up to compensate for the lack of skill points and abilities.

It is not to fix things, but that people have more freedom to explore the huge world of ESO and that players of quite different levels can play together and do not have to make alts to have about an equal level with a friend. Scaling is supposed to remove these level-based barriers. This is as well the reason for making the alliance borders transparent outside of Cyrrodil - you can visit other alliance's territory without to have to finish the main quest first. The whole thing allows for a more free and self-controlled playstyle and is less "forced" on you.

GreenhaloX · August 2016

Aside from those in Craglorn and Cyrodiil (which I am pending to tackle), I have enjoyed completing every single quests and the final culmination of Cadwell's gold experience, whether the quests are too easy or not.

@Rastoide, there is no mistake. I believe you may not realize all the other aspects of ESO. It is about experiencing every aspects of ESO. If you feel the main or side quests are getting too easy or monotonous, break away and go run some dolmen, or go to the DLC parts, such as Orsinium/Wrothgar, Hew's Bane and the Gold Coast, and do the world boss pits. I assure you, you will be more challenged.

You can also find a good guild to group up with other members to do group dungeons and undaunted pledges. If you seek further challenges, get into those 12-man (woman) trials, such as Sanctum and the Maw, where mini-bosses have health in the 1 million and more, and big bosses with 6 to 25 millions health bar. You will be quite challenged and get good drops from doing those. You will also get good drops as well as being very challenged from doing veteran dungeons, particularly vet Imperial City Prison (ICP) and vet White Gold Tower. If you do the daily undaunted pledges in a veteran dungeon, you will also get a gold key to open up the gold chest at the Undaunted Enclave in Deshaan where you will get additional good drops from the chest.

If you need more challenges, then go tackle the Maelstrom arena in Wrothgar. If that becomes easy, then venture into Veteran Maelstrom arena (vMA), where I can assure again, you will be challenged to the utmost of your ability and beyond. Plus the good drops, such as the mystical 5k weapon damage or spell damage weapons are drops from completing vMA. Yes, yes, you may have to complete vMA numerous times to get the right drops to your liking.

After all these challenges, I am certain you will need the break and welcome back those easy quests again with open arms.

Lysette · August 2016

I can really understand him, I feel as well weird, when I have outleveled a quest and do it nevertheless - I feel like I would steal the candy from a child, killing enemies with 1-shot and just go through it in a zack-dead-zack-dead-zack-dead like way, and take away the enemies from players, who play it at a proper level - this is not a good feeling and so I avoid doing those, which I have outleveled already. I am really happy that One Tamriel is coming and then I can do those quests, which I outleveled.

FortheloveofKrist · August 2016

wayfarerx wrote: »

Well in a few months everything everywhere will scale you to the content so you can always come back to it then.

Wait, what? I thought One Tamriel was in this month's update?

Can anyone confirm/deny the release date of One Tamriel for dear ol' @FortheloveofKrist ?

Lysette · August 2016

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

wayfarerx wrote: »

Well in a few months everything everywhere will scale you to the content so you can always come back to it then.

Wait, what? I thought One Tamriel was in this month's update?

Can anyone confirm/deny the release date of One Tamriel for dear ol' @FortheloveofKrist ?

ZOS said "fall" which is "autumn" - we have still summer (well, I have winter but anyway) currently.

Tyrion87 · August 2016

But isn't it like when you have higher level than the zone you're in, you get less or no experience? If so, maybe when you complete one or two next zones, the following zone will be much more "suitable" for your level?

Lysette · August 2016

Basically yes, I had to go to Stormhaven already when I did not have half of the quests in Glenumbra and I guess I will have to go to the next pretty quickly again without to have done most of the quests in Stormhaven - so I will appreciate One Tamriel a lot, if it is like in DLC zones. It is not even because I would outlevel the quests in Stormhaven, but I have meanwhile developed good enough tactics to try something harder than what is offered in this zone.

Danikat · August 2016

I've been over-levelled for the quests I'm doing on all my characters since shortly after I created them. (Except for my new one, who went straight into the Thieves Guild content and so is permanently under level.)

I don't worry about it. I'm doing the quests because I'm interested in the stories involved and because I'm a completionist. The XP and even the items I get are mainly just a way of enabling me to move onto new areas and do more quests, so it doesn't matter if I don't get much as long as it's not blocking my progress.

Lysette · August 2016

Danikat wrote: »

I've been over-levelled for the quests I'm doing on all my characters since shortly after I created them. (Except for my new one, who went straight into the Thieves Guild content and so is permanently under level.)

I don't worry about it. I'm doing the quests because I'm interested in the stories involved and because I'm a completionist. The XP and even the items I get are mainly just a way of enabling me to move onto new areas and do more quests, so it doesn't matter if I don't get much as long as it's not blocking my progress.

The current system works better for raisin pickers than for a completionist - I guess it might not be made for doing all the quests but to be a bit picky with which tasks your character wants to support and which he deems not worth his intervention. On my newer characters I do mainly those quests which I missed out on the older ones - most are interesting in their own way and it would be sad to miss them totally.

Cazzy · August 2016

FortheloveofKrist wrote: »

wayfarerx wrote: »

Well in a few months everything everywhere will scale you to the content so you can always come back to it then.

Wait, what? I thought One Tamriel was in this month's update?

Can anyone confirm/deny the release date of One Tamriel for dear ol' @FortheloveofKrist ?

Not this month! Maybe Oct?

Rastoide · August 2016

Lol, thats funny how some people tell you to do the DLC content like if it comes with the game package..
Its also funny how some act like if everyone got a PC as good as his own..

I was lucky enough to be able to buy the game itself. And i would like to enjoy it properly.. As it happens, right now, its not quite possible to do that. Since every "proper" alternative all of you gave me, are no more than that: alternatives. And hey guess what too: "alternatives" give an insane amount of xp when you're new and low lvl like me. Its like the devs didn't want players to do quests!
But quests are quests. They have one kind of a "lvl cap". And they are EPIC. Doing them is interesting, i like to get involved in this stories. But tbh, if the red bandits or werewolves or whoever conquer a whole city and I run thru it withouth even getting hit, where's the point of that? Its just silly. Thats like 3hours of story gone to trash.

Some of you may overlook this and enjoy things whatsoever. But QUESTS are actually the main "thing" of every RPG game there is anywhere.

Anyway as others more accurately answered. Tamriel One will "fix this". So one must wait and hope for the best for now.

Meanwhile i'll enjoy exploring and dungeoning. And doing ONLY the few quests that do scale to my lvl.
This aint a solution. Is an alternative to continue to play -.-

Peace.

WillhelmBlack · August 2016

Spoiler alert. The questing is terrible. Dungeons, trials and PvP is where the real fun's at in this game. Skip the quests and hit the grind to CP160 at least on this character. You can go back later on with another one if you feel the urge.

Number_51 · August 2016

I would recommend doing only a zone's main quests (even if you are overleveled) for your current zone and maybe one or two of the next zones. That should give you something to do and allow the game to catch up with you. Then, when One Tamriel comes out, go back and do the miscellaneous side quests to get the experience (XP and experiencing the story).

Elsonso · August 2016

Number_51 wrote: »

I would recommend doing only a zone's main quests (even if you are overleveled) for your current zone and maybe one or two of the next zones. That should give you something to do and allow the game to catch up with you. Then, when One Tamriel comes out, go back and do the miscellaneous side quests to get the experience (XP and experiencing the story).

Do this.

The main quest plus your alliance quest for each zone allows you to progress to the final battle with Molag Bal. You can come back after One Tamriel and clean up any quests that you did not do on the side.

Necrelios · August 2016

Just do the main story quests and public dungeons. The side quests are pointless fetch quests with terrible rewards. You won't even remember doing them a month later.

EDIT: Forgot to add that if you wait until you hit max level/cp 160 before finishing the last phases of the main harborage and fighters guild quests you get those unique weapons as rewards and they will be scaled to max level/cp160. They're just cool looking keepsakes and if you get the bow from the fighters guild quest it's great for grinding anchors with since it has that special enchantment.

Rastoide wrote: »

Lol, thats funny how some people tell you to do the DLC content like if it comes with the game package..
Its also funny how some act like if everyone got a PC as good as his own..

I was lucky enough to be able to buy the game itself. And i would like to enjoy it properly.. As it happens, right now, its not quite possible to do that. Since every "proper" alternative all of you gave me, are no more than that: alternatives. And hey guess what too: "alternatives" give an insane amount of xp when you're new and low lvl like me. Its like the devs didn't want players to do quests!
But quests are quests. They have one kind of a "lvl cap". And they are EPIC. Doing them is interesting, i like to get involved in this stories. But tbh, if the red bandits or werewolves or whoever conquer a whole city and I run thru it withouth even getting hit, where's the point of that? Its just silly. Thats like 3hours of story gone to trash.

Some of you may overlook this and enjoy things whatsoever. But QUESTS are actually the main "thing" of every RPG game there is anywhere.

Anyway as others more accurately answered. Tamriel One will "fix this". So one must wait and hope for the best for now.

Meanwhile i'll enjoy exploring and dungeoning. And doing ONLY the few quests that do scale to my lvl.
This aint a solution. Is an alternative to continue to play -.-

Peace.

The game doesn't offer a challenge really no matter what level you are unless you do dungeons, trials, or that sort of thing. The overland mobs are basically just fodder even at max level. Some of the anchors and world bosses can still be challenging though while you level.

Lysette · August 2016

Rastoide wrote: »

Lol, thats funny how some people tell you to do the DLC content like if it comes with the game package..
Its also funny how some act like if everyone got a PC as good as his own..

I was lucky enough to be able to buy the game itself. And i would like to enjoy it properly.. As it happens, right now, its not quite possible to do that. Since every "proper" alternative all of you gave me, are no more than that: alternatives. And hey guess what too: "alternatives" give an insane amount of xp when you're new and low lvl like me. Its like the devs didn't want players to do quests!
But quests are quests. They have one kind of a "lvl cap". And they are EPIC. Doing them is interesting, i like to get involved in this stories. But tbh, if the red bandits or werewolves or whoever conquer a whole city and I run thru it withouth even getting hit, where's the point of that? Its just silly. Thats like 3hours of story gone to trash.

Some of you may overlook this and enjoy things whatsoever. But QUESTS are actually the main "thing" of every RPG game there is anywhere.

Anyway as others more accurately answered. Tamriel One will "fix this". So one must wait and hope for the best for now.

Meanwhile i'll enjoy exploring and dungeoning. And doing ONLY the few quests that do scale to my lvl.
This aint a solution. Is an alternative to continue to play -.-

Peace.

I am not much of a quester, but there is some story content, where I really want to know how the story continues and have some fun with it as well - I have out leveled it, so I will have to wait for one Tamriel, in order to get a reward, which I can actually use and not just deconstruct or trash it.

Otherwise One Tamriel to me will mean freedom to do as i please - I will put on my training gear and then beat the shite out of all mobs I come across on my sightseeing tour through all the zones open to me and finally I can have a look a the full potential and beauty of Tamrielic provinces. And do quests, whenever I feel like it anywhere on the continent - this will be a lot more fun than before. I am the open world sandbox type of player - I know that ESO is not a sandbox, but a theme park - nevertheless One Tamriel is going in the right direction.

Edit: Don't take it personal if someone suggest to go to a DLC zone - they cannot know, if you currently have access to it or not, and it is still an option for you if you are willing to spend 15 bucks once - than you have 30 days to try out and have fun in any of those zones - even it does not come with the package, like you say, it is an option you have. If you make use of it or not, is up to you of course.

Iselin · August 2016

This is a problem created when they made the starter islands "optional" due to some knee-jerk early reviews when the game first launched.

What happened was that they lowered the level of the mobs in the first zones after the newbie islands so that level 3s who opted for not doing the islands could do it. But if you do the islands, yeah, you'll be OP'd for a while and the drops and chests will give you items that are too low for you.

The problem mostly goes away about half way through that zone when the mob levels "catch up" to yours... unless you have ESO+ with its +10% XP that is. If you do, your leveling curve will always be far ahead of the mobs if you're a completionist who wants to do all the quests and delves in a zone.

If you want to fight mobs that are at your level or above you have to skip side quests. Just go after the skyhards and do the main zone quest line. If you don't you'll probably be 50+ before you even get to Coldharbour.

waterfairy · August 2016

8 levels over? I'm pretty sure I've done the same thing the first time through and did everything on the map but wasn't that over level. I'm assuming you're an ESO+ member or using some sort of XP enhancement...either that or you ran through the same delves/dolmens/etc. more then once.

kylewwefan · August 2016

Rastoide wrote: »

.. after creating my first character: I CLEARED, the first 2 maps. Every skyshard, every single quest in both, newbie map and in Glenumbra.
Now i'm 8 levels ahead of the third map. And doing any quest feels too damn easy, and a waste of time. Now every item i get, either as drop, or reward, its useless to me.

I'm sad, because i loved getting immersed in every quest.
But now i hardly want to play. I barely login and do something.
I see a WHOLE map waiting for me, but it just all crappy lowlvled things..
Whats the point of doing EPIC quests EFORTLESS with MEANINGLESS rewards :'(

Should i just SKIP THE WHOLE map?

Oh man..

Most of the quest rewards for the main story are meaningless rewards by the time you get to endgame. None of the questing is effortless. It takes most people quite some time to complete Cadwells Silver/Gold. It took me forever to get my first V16 character. I found it just as satisfying and frustrating at times finding all sky shards in all areas and I'm so glad respec are affordable now. It used to cost 15k. There is tons of stuff to do in this game and if you hang it up now well....

Pheefs · August 2016

Rastoide wrote: »

Should i just SKIP THE WHOLE map?

Yes you can chase the main Three Banners War quest stuff & move yourself along!
Why not?

& you can always double back once One Tamriel is out & the area will give you good xp again then.
have fun!

Lysette · August 2016

Vigarr wrote: »

8 levels over? I'm pretty sure I've done the same thing the first time through and did everything on the map but wasn't that over level. I'm assuming you're an ESO+ member or using some sort of XP enhancement...either that or you ran through the same delves/dolmens/etc. more then once.

Nah, it happens in a pretty simple way - you do all the quests on the starter islands and when you come to the mainland you are already about 2-3 levels above what the quests there are meant for - then you do a couple of those in the city there, and you will already have most of the left ones in this town be green - and when you do those, most on the map outside of the city will be green or yellow - but when you do the green ones, the yellow turn green and when you start doing them, the rest of those start to gray out and you are overleveled. It happens pretty quickly and you do not even have done half of them.