Mounts?

ereboz · August 2016

Will there ever be mounts obtainable in game from drops or achievements, etc. Anything better than those sickly horses you buy from the stable hands. I would like to see some kind of mounts that I can earn by playing the game, rather than spending crowns on them

ADarklore · August 2016

ereboz wrote: »

Will there ever be mounts obtainable in game from drops or achievements, etc. Anything better than those sickly horses you buy from the stable hands. I would like to see some kind of mounts that I can earn by playing the game, rather than spending crowns on them

But that wouldn't make ZOS any revenue. It'd be good for players, but bad for business.

WhiteCoatSyndrome · August 2016

ADarklore wrote: »

But that wouldn't make ZOS any revenue. It'd be good for players, but bad for business.

Not necessarily. Wasn't the whole reason all the mounts have no distinct special ability because they didn't want that sort of thing to be purchase-only? If they had some kind of Senche, camel, and bear drop from bosses, then they're obtainable in-game and they could give them all different abilities.

ADarklore · August 2016

WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

But that wouldn't make ZOS any revenue. It'd be good for players, but bad for business.

Not necessarily. Wasn't the whole reason all the mounts have no distinct special ability because they didn't want that sort of thing to be purchase-only? If they had some kind of Senche, camel, and bear drop from bosses, then they're obtainable in-game and they could give them all different abilities.

Actually they used to have special abilities, but then they removed them and made mount skills all character-based instead of mount-based. People complained about having to have multiple mounts, so they made it easier so now players can have a single mount that can do everything.

Also, adding 'special abilities' to dropped mounts would be akin to offering active Summoned Pets like Sorcerers have... and ZOS has made it pretty clear they have no interest in adding those type of things to the game.

WhiteCoatSyndrome · August 2016

@ADarklore No I mean like the horse was initially supposed to have the unique special ability 'keep running if you run out of Stamina' but then they came out with the Senche, and it was Crown Store-only and had the same 'unique' ability and we haven't gotten anything in that regard since.

josefcifkaeb17_ESO · August 2016

@WhiteCoatSyndrome All mounts could always keep running with their stamina gone, all it does is prevents you from falling from your mount when getting hit. That's how it always was.
The only difference in mounts was back after launch when mounts had different attributes. If you bought the more expensive one you had one ore more attributes higher than the cheapest mount.

Ganj · August 2016

Good idea but never going to happen. Money and RPG dont work together so yea you will be buying your mounts with your money always.

ereboz · August 2016

Yeah I get that they need to make their money considering the sub is optional. I would just love to get a bad ass mount after beating some crazy boss

Bad_Company · August 2016

What's up with so many people wanting stuff for free and not spending a single penny into the game, which is the only thing that would allow devs to improve it as best as they can?

Ghost-Shot · August 2016

Bad_Company wrote: »

What's up with so many people wanting stuff for free and not spending a single penny into the game, which is the only thing that would allow devs to improve it as best as they can?

Do you honestly have an issue with people expecting things to obtainable in the game like every other successful MMO? If you obtain nothing in game, what's the point in playing? Being a fan boy does not help advance the game in a positive direction.

dodgehopper_ESO · August 2016

Bad_Company wrote: »

What's up with so many people wanting stuff for free and not spending a single penny into the game, which is the only thing that would allow devs to improve it as best as they can?

People want a sense of earning something in game, and not earning it from a day at the office.

Bad_Company · August 2016

@Ghost-Shot , @dodgehopper_ESO : you both raised the same argument to my question. The thing is, you CAN obtain free stuff in game. Mounts too, if you consider you can buy some with in-game gold and not real life money. Players' greed is just as big as ZOS', because the former always want more and more to be free, while the latter need to make a revenue out of as many things as they can. I think you can't argue with that.

dodgehopper_ESO · August 2016

Bad_Company wrote: »

@Ghost-Shot , @dodgehopper_ESO : you both raised the same argument to my question. The thing is, you CAN obtain free stuff in game. Mounts too, if you consider you can buy some with in-game gold and not real life money. Players' greed is just as big as ZOS', because the former always want more and more to be free, while the latter need to make a revenue out of as many things as they can. I think you can't argue with that.

I've spent plenty on the game, and I've been a subscriber since the very earliest opening of the game. I'm not a cheapskate but I understand the feeling. When all the 'cool looking stuff' is earned by throwing dollars at a video game, it takes away some of the sense of enjoyment of the game itself. I've seen this experience time and again in other MMO's (Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic comes to mind first hand).

One area where I'm fairly happy with some of what ZoS has done, is that they've put in unlocks like amberplasm skin, or the vestige zero skins or the like behind DLC content but they also need to be earned. At any regard I think my view is more balanced than yours, and its not an all or nothing proposition. It isn't a matter of being a cheapskate but a matter of playability. I like the idea of buying DLC to unlock access to earning cool stuff (like my litany polymorph for instance), or in the case of free stuff - cool costumes (May they please let the shadowsilk goblin become a costume). I'd really like to see them convert all the disguises to costumes at some point.

Ghost-Shot · August 2016

Bad_Company wrote: »

@Ghost-Shot , @dodgehopper_ESO : you both raised the same argument to my question. The thing is, you CAN obtain free stuff in game. Mounts too, if you consider you can buy some with in-game gold and not real life money. Players' greed is just as big as ZOS', because the former always want more and more to be free, while the latter need to make a revenue out of as many things as they can. I think you can't argue with that.

Yeah I've had all those mounts for nearly 2 years now. I have also purchased way too many mounts from the store. I also expect a quality experience from an MMO, I have never played an MMO, even fully F2P ones, that didn't have rare mounts obtainable from killing bosses or gaining high pvp ratings. So sure, we have some super generic mounts in game already, but it is completely ridiculous that NONE have been added that can be obtained in game since BETA. Your attitude about it encourages bad business practice and hinders any potential growth for this game.

dodgehopper_ESO · August 2016

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

Bad_Company wrote: »

@Ghost-Shot , @dodgehopper_ESO : you both raised the same argument to my question. The thing is, you CAN obtain free stuff in game. Mounts too, if you consider you can buy some with in-game gold and not real life money. Players' greed is just as big as ZOS', because the former always want more and more to be free, while the latter need to make a revenue out of as many things as they can. I think you can't argue with that.

Yeah I've had all those mounts for nearly 2 years now. I have also purchased way too many mounts from the store. I also expect a quality experience from an MMO, I have never played an MMO, even fully F2P ones, that didn't have rare mounts obtainable from killing bosses or gaining high pvp ratings. So sure, we have some super generic mounts in game already, but it is completely ridiculous that NONE have been added that can be obtained in game since BETA. Your attitude about it encourages bad business practice and hinders any potential growth for this game.

You didn't read through what I said @Ghost-Shot, please re-read. We are not in disagreement. I like Arvak from Skyrim, and it would be nice to see that here. My only point was the things we do earn right now can be cool. They can apply this here.

MisterBigglesworth · August 2016

I think a good compromise would be having a new type of mount, with 3 variants/re-skins:

a version purchased standalone, directly with crowns
a version that comes packaged with a DLC, obtained by doing something easy, like the main story quest
a version packaged with a DLC, looks a lot cooler, obtained by completing the Trial in that DLC

AntMan100673 · August 2016

From questing in the different alliances you can get the following:

EP - collectible polymorph
DC - collectible pet
AD - nope, just a disguise. I've always thought there should have been a collectible mount, even if it was just a different horse