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So, what's the trick to killing WWs in PVP?

CapuchinSeven
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Player was almost dead, he's about to die I'm low on magicka and bam he's a WW back up to full health, CC fails and he beats on me and I die.

Am I missing something with them?
  • CapuchinSeven
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    Sorry posted this in entirely the wrong section.
  • Magus
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    Sounds like it as a stamina dragonknight. WW is an expensive ultimate so it returns a lot of his/her resources through the battle roar passive. If you have a WW on you, it's more a matter of survival than killing them on your own. You will need to purge off their heal debuff on you and keep yourself healed. You will need to be able to reflect, dodge, or block their howl of agony, which is a projectile that is reflectable. It will be able to two shot you from full health if they have stacked weapon damage and max stamina. You may want to focus on surviving and cc'ing them every 6 seconds. If you can stay alive long enough, they will revert back to human form or other people will jump into the fight to help you. WW are very vulnerable to poisons like poison injection, lethal arrow, silver shards, and dawnbreaker.

    Can provide more counters if you state what you are playing but the above is general guidance.
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  • CapuchinSeven
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    Magblade mostly, seems you've pretty much covered what I thought myself though. Thanks for the advice :)
  • Magus
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    Magblade mostly, seems you've pretty much covered what I thought myself though. Thanks for the advice :)

    Spam healing ward and your annulment morph of choice, fear him off you and cloak away. Then you can keep your funnel health up on him and occasionally come out of cloak and concealed weapon stun him every 6 seconds. WW has no ability to pull you from stealth, so you can fight on your own terms. If he stacked his stamina and weapon damage, he will have a relatively low magicka pool, which is where his heal comes from. So, if you put a little pressure on him you can make him use up his magicka then time your burst with a spectral bow and soul tether once you have him down from 100% a bit. The main key to this fight will be keep your distance and defenses up so he can't burst you down. If you run 1+shield on one of your bars, then you can run defensive posture or absorb magicka.
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  • Serjustin19
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    Poision. In bow skill... (I bad at names) If your a stamina build.
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  • Solariken
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    Poison abilities and Fighters Guild abilities will help you burst them down, but it's actually pretty easy to control them with immobilizes since they can't Shuffle out of them. :trollface:
  • Avenias
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    Solution is simple, if u cant handle it one on one, then get a group of friends and zerg the hell out of that player. Repeat again and again, till he gets sick of dying.
  • Mysteri0n
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    Poison injection and put a poison on your weapon with a charge trait preferably a poison that drains stamina and movement speed
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  • CapuchinSeven
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    Mysteri0n wrote: »
    Poison injection and put a poison on your weapon with a charge trait preferably a poison that drains stamina and movement speed

    yeah figured that, when I looked at my stuff after death I noticed it had run out which likely didn't help.
  • arkansas_ESO
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    Magblade mostly, seems you've pretty much covered what I thought myself though. Thanks for the advice :)

    Cloak and run, his only AOE has a very small range, unless he's got detect pots you can safely stay in cloak until he exits WW and then fight him


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  • ToRelax
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    If you use Strife and Crippling Grasp, take it as an opportunity to not have to deal with the reflect. Keep him rooted and weave Strife, occasionally fear him. Most likely he'll run out of magicka or transform back then.

    WW is only good 1v1 if you can surprise and kill your enemy, otherwise it just loweres your defense and resource management.
    Edited by ToRelax on August 11, 2016 9:12AM
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  • Celas_Dranacea
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    Just lay down an be eaten >:)
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    Keep a porkchop bone in your pocket an whistle while twirling it in circles over your head . Then throw it quickly towards the nearest Zerg .
  • Baconlad
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    Yeah...if your not hitting him, he has thirty seconds of wreck you in the mouth. If you are hitting him, that thirty seconds become indeffinite. Just ignore him and defense/walk away. If he's running a good build, hell be able to heal up to full REAL quick. Soo...its very tough, WWs are not squish, dots work great, defile works good, and steady pressure
  • Emma_Overload
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    Just run away from them until WW form wears off. Don't bother attacking them unless you are confident you can heal through it (e.g. by Templar jabbing).
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  • AverageJo3Gam3r
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    Snares and roots hit WW hard.
  • KenaPKK
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    "Run away" is not realistic advice, and it's not what the OP is asking for... Why are you all coming in here saying that?

    If you're ranged, kiting with snares, ccs, and roots works well against werewolves. Also heavy sustained damage can send them into heal spam since they don't have simultaneous offensive and defensive tools and have trouble fighting through roots and snares (no shuffle in ww!). Hold your ccs for when they jump on you, be ready to break free quickly, and kite hard.

    If you're melee, lead with a cc, burst hard, then backpeddle and play defensive until their cc immunity wears off. Count out the 6 seconds, then go back in with another cc and burst combo. Pressure them in burst cycles but don't get in a brawl with them. Basically don't attack them when they can attack you back because their high damage will put you on the back foot. If they have immov pots, snare them and kite it out between them. If you can burst hard enough to make them start shooting off heals, pressure harder. They generally don't have great sustain.

    1v1ing a werewolf is daunting if you don't know the ins and outs of the fight, but there is a pattern to it. Once you get it down, the fight actually becomes pretty easy. Werewolf isn't great in 1v1s against experienced opponents.
    Edited by KenaPKK on August 12, 2016 3:53AM
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  • CapuchinSeven
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    KenaPKK wrote: »
    1v1ing a werewolf is daunting if you don't know the ins and outs of the fight, but there is a pattern to it. Once you get it down, the fight actually becomes pretty easy. Werewolf isn't great in 1v1s against experienced opponents.

    Thanks man, this is pretty much what I noticed and thought and had a feeling there was a trick to it that I wasn't seeing.
  • Kas
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    ww form is basically a shift towards more offensive, epsecially due to the lack of all those great defensive abilities most builds have. however, the player will initially have several nn-ww buffs up and be VERY strong. vigor may be short but rally is there for quite some time and so is shuffle and recently crit surge (there are a lot more buffs that carry over). during that time, you should be careful, like REALLY careful. After around 30sec he may still be in WW form and have nice offense, but the def is a joke.

    I have duelled quite a bit but I have to admit never against a good player that relied on WW a lot. I guess a good palyer would actually transform back on purpose by that time, but I don't know for sure. I can just tell that the WWs I encounter in the wild were mostly dead meat after their buffs expired and they tried to rely on stuff like the heal inside ww form.

    thus, for the first 15-20seconds, mag nb's will cloak, mag sorcs will streak and mine, mag dk's will spam wings and magplar just demonstrate their overall absurd tankyness when being fully defensive. stam builds will dodge a lot. don't over-spam but it's okay to spend a bit more than you usually do for perfect sustain. then just go ham. still be careful of the WW's offense but do some damage and soon you'll see the wolf startung to drop. once he starts howling for health, go ham and see what happens if a player is forced to spam spell with little efficiency (ww heal is a joke compared to e.g. vigor)

    further, use dots, debuffs, etc for the whole time. there's no purge in ww form and stuff like criple, vbane, embers, curse, even entropy are guaranteed to be highly efficient - and then there#s poison injection which is just crazy :)
    Edited by Kas on August 12, 2016 10:46AM
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  • Vaoh
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    Best way to beat them is usually to setup burst and then CC with Dawnbreaker (20% bonus damage). Werewolves are dangerous because they can deal some insane damage. Have yet to play one though :/
    Edited by Vaoh on August 12, 2016 3:01PM
  • kaorunandrak
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    The thing with the heal don't fall for the whole he popped a heal he must be on the ropes, personally I use hircines rage which is a damage buff, I use claws of life in big groups/mobs during fights to keep up health sustain.

    If you are the guy I fought mid afternoon on tues/wed in IC, then yeah I am a Stam DK so I went to full HP cause of my earthen heart passive. But the WW pop was cause I'm testing a build I put together not out of desperation for low Hp as a stam dk I have some stupid healing options Igneous shield + rally + vigor = full Hp + damage bonus from earthen heart passive.

    A lot of the strats these guys gave you are excellent but also geared towards player who don't know how to make WW work and dont stack their build properly for it. So just be aware of that when you get into another fight with a WW, a good one will bait you countering the strategies these guys gave or if your running to much will ignore you to either kills mobs and gain WW time back or safely drop and start rebuilding ult and buff up.

    Me personally on this new build I count on groups to try to apply pressure on me cause I'm in heavy armor under the WW fur I often will waste a bit of magika for Hircines rage damage buff, trick groups into attacking let them build my Wrath passive, hit with claws of life and hircine rage once more and then fear and HAM mode engaged. Right now I'm using bloodspawn for more passive resistance Currently 5k over armor cap in werewolf + bloodspawn with 28k HP 45k Stamina 17k magika and with all buffs up not including my weapon procs 5k weap damage. Might switch out Bloodspawn for something different later not sure.

    But anyways Just be careful when utilizing these strats or engaging a WW in general and learn the different WW abilities if you can or even find it worth your time, I mean there is a handful of decent werewolf players out there but is it really worth the effort to learning how to fight them? That's a question only you can answer.
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  • Celas_Dranacea
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    I still think you should just LIE DOWN AND SACRIFICE YOURSELF TO THE GOD OF THE HUNT!

    AWOOOOO!!!!!!!!
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  • Celas_Dranacea
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    Also make sure your Tabasco sauce buff is up at all times
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  • Baconlad
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    @kaorunandrak ....so I have all the same stats as you, but with 5k buffed spell power as well as 5k buffed weapon damage. Don't underestimate the WW. There's alot of glass canons out there but every once in awhile you run across a WW that knows how to play
  • Chrlynsch
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    Heal debuff/ snare/ Root and keep your dots up on them. They can not purge. A werewolf's best defense is its offense, take this away and you will have a new rug in no time.

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  • kaorunandrak
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    Baconlad wrote: »
    @kaorunandrak ....so I have all the same stats as you, but with 5k buffed spell power as well as 5k buffed weapon damage. Don't underestimate the WW. There's alot of glass canons out there but every once in awhile you run across a WW that knows how to play

    ??? Don't understand if you are telling me to not underestimate WW players or what, you realize I am a WW player and was cautioning the op about over relying on the same start for dealing with WW, as I personally try to use the default "how to kill a WW 101" against Ww hunter while I'm in WW form
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    I find it is helpful when you TAKE A KNIFE AND SPILL YOUR OWN ENTRAILS ON THE GROUND SO I CAN MORE EASILY EAT THEM.
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